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[Tijani]

The Americans who were here were interested in and supported the Palestinian genocide, and generally only republished the propaganda of the Western media.

I don't have a good view of them. The people are completely dominated by their media.

Understandably bro but it's easy to brainwashed when living in a western dominated society. The full spectrum dominance of those who control the levers of power is not easy to defend against. Henceforth even more important to be nice no? Anyways. Back to topic.

 

[Tijani]

it was in the discussion dedicated to drones
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it's my guess, but that model shown is something more than a drone, I suspect it will be piloted.
Perhaps the definitive version of the Q-313.

The two air intakes on the back of the aircraft suggest the use of engines with afterburners
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from the web
if the automatic translator performed well, I think this news is more suitable for this discussion

They write:
On the occasion of the exhibition of the latest achievements of scientists from the country's defense industry, a model of the Qaher fighter was presented to the Leader of the Revolution, and Brigadier General Afshin Khajefard, CEO of the Aerospace Industries Organization of the Ministry of Defense, gave explanations on the current status of this project.
https://snn.ir/fa/news/1227649/جنگنده-قاهر-در-محضر-رهبر-انقلاب-عکس

If this is shown to the Leader then it must be serious business! It seems the basic design of the bird of prey hasn't changed. Just reminding all the haters who said that the design wouldn't fly and is inherently aerodynamically flawed. First the small drones, then larger drones and finally a piloted version. When I see this fly I'll change my profile picture to remind all you haters for eternity

 

[Deino]

If this is shown to the Leader then it must be serious business! It seems the basic design of the bird of prey hasn't changed. Just reminding all the haters who said that the design wouldn't fly and is inherently aerodynamically flawed. First the small drones, then larger drones and finally a piloted version. When I see this fly I'll change my profile picture to remind all you haters for eternity

The only problem is, Iran's media wasn't very much helpful and in fact part of the issue that so many "haters" as you call them are not convinced it is indeed a real program!

The bonsai-version with a too small cockpit cramped by tape and just torn off "avionics", a design that is simply just not a fighter by all understanding contributed a lot to justified criticism. And still even if you seem to be convinced, the 60% Q313 hasn't been seen flying but only the at best 20% RC-model, which in the end is more a joke than a real UAV or UCAV!

 

[Flotilla]

omg - not this crap again!!! Iran should just say this is a UCAV and leave it at that and walk away from this, but to continue to pretend it is a manned fighter makes no sense. No one else has designed a plane like this, and you have to ask why. What does Iran think it knows about aerodynamics that other more established countries dont know ?

I agree with you (and Deino) that until today no Qaher member of the family (yeah, out of there It is a family) have flown except a small drone.

But even if it is a complete fake aircraft (I am pretty sure they Will show a flyable aircraft and a operative UCAV) there is a reason for that embarrassing por pictures, videos and interviews.

It is the "Tirpitz" effect. Even if that battleship was useless and out of Deutsche Kriegsmarine Doctrine, she was useful from the day one to her sinking day. Obviously all time, resources, manpower and aircraft involved were extremely useful for DKM and Reich. The more you spend time in reading, searching and answering inconclusive statements the more useful for IRGCN and Government. Because the focus are in other directions. You witnessed an operative long range air defence launcher, a worrying big underground naval base for tens of speedboats and something much more disturbing... The advancement in the opaque iranian nuclear program. While The Atlantic, The Drive (War Zone), The National Interest and other low quality think tanks websites are laughing of Qaher, the Regime is advancing in many (if no all rest) arenas.

So, from this point of view the Qaher is a master 5 generation aircraft for chasing non believers and fool pro western fellow.

 

[Mr Iran Eye]

Poor Deino, he is so afraid that Iran will succeed with the Qaher 313. They have already succeeded and it will fly very well.

 

[muhammed45]

omg - not this crap again!!! Iran should just say this is a UCAV and leave it at that and walk away from this, but to continue to pretend it is a manned fighter makes no sense. No one else has designed a plane like this, and you have to ask why. What does Iran think it knows about aerodynamics that other more established countries dont know ?

omg - not this crap again!!! Iran should just say this is a UCAV and leave it at that and walk away from this, but to continue to pretend it is a manned fighter makes no sense. No one else has designed a plane like this, and you have to ask why. What does Iran think it knows about aerodynamics that other more established countries dont know ?

Yes bro. Only the blue eyed white male can be the inventors. Us the poor brown Muzzies are just followers and witnesses of their great works.

Be patient man, why in hurry? Its not that easy to build something from scratch

 

[Deino]

Poor Deino, he is so afraid that Iran will succeed with the Qaher 313. They have already succeeded and it will fly very well.View attachment 100383

I really - based on all logic, common sense and aeronautical understanding - do not understand, how anyone could think the Q-313's design would result in anything flyable with decent flight characteristics! This whole thing is at best an UCAV but surely not a fifth generation fighter like some are still wet-dreaming!

 

[Persian Gulf]

I really - based on all logic, common sense and aeronautical understanding - do not understand, how anyone could think the Q-313's design would result in anything flyable with decent flight characteristics! This whole thing is at best an UCAV but surely not a fifth generation fighter like some are still wet-dreaming!

to be fair, I think most people now realise it's not going to be a 5G fighter jet project, and instead might become a feasible UCAV project (not yet proven beyond 20% RC copy, but plausible)

 

[Tijani]

The only problem is, Iran's media wasn't very much helpful and in fact part of the issue that so many "haters" as you call them are not convinced it is indeed a real program!

The bonsai-version with a too small cockpit cramped by tape and just torn off "avionics", a design that is simply just not a fighter by all understanding contributed a lot to justified criticism. And still even if you seem to be convinced, the 60% Q313 hasn't been seen flying but only the at best 20% RC-model, which in the end is more a joke than a real UAV or UCAV!

The "bonsai-version" was political pagentry for reasons unknown to most of us. I accepted it, for what I believe it was, proof of concept and intent. A lot of statements concerning the Qaher from a couple of politicians certainly didn't do the program any favours in the media, but I still believe the concept was sound.

The larger drone will fly from the carrier publicly soon enough. No one is right mind would put an unflyable prop on a carrier. Iran is learning the tricks of the trade for carrier operations. It's not a theoretical course, it's hard practical experience. The small drone has its purpose considering this learning curve, and probably more asymmetric usage considering Iran's drone abilities.

 

[Deino]

to be fair, I think most people now realise it's not going to be a 5G fighter jet project, and instead might become a feasible UCAV project (not yet proven beyond 20% RC copy, but plausible)

With this I can wholeheartedly agree!

The "bonsai-version" was political pagentry for reasons unknown to most of us. I accepted it, for what I believe it was, proof of concept and intent. A lot of statements concerning the Qaher from a couple of politicians certainly didn't do the program any favours in the media, but I still believe the concept was sound.

The larger drone will fly from the carrier publicly soon enough. No one is right mind would put an unflyable prop on a carrier. Iran is learning the tricks of the trade for carrier operations. It's not a theoretical course, it's hard practical experience. The small drone has its purpose considering this learning curve, and probably more asymmetric usage considering Iran's drone abilities.

Well, I admire your optimism & enthusiasm, but regarding indigenous Iranian "Superweapons" including fighters, trainers and so on I have no faith at all!

Most of it was over-hyped if in any reason a realistic concept at all and not only propaganda ... most of it however was nothing more than propaganda!
Let's wait and see.

 

[mack8]

Just a nice picture.

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[Tijani]

With this I can wholeheartedly agree!



Well, I admire your optimism & enthusiasm, but regarding indigenous Iranian "Superweapons" including fighters, trainers and so on I have no faith at all!

Most of it was over-hyped if in any reason a realistic concept at all and not only propaganda ... most of it however was nothing more than propaganda!
Let's wait and see.

I'll remind you once I change my profile picture. Have to optimistic and keep the faith. It's the only way go get anywhere. Honestly, who ever believed that those young boys playing around with hardly flyable junks of steel in the midst of war would one day be world leaders in drone technology? (Great documentary if anyone has it readily.) If that isn't reason enough to be optimistic then nothing is.
Don't forget to take it a smile I, among others, remind you, or I'll ask Mr Iran Eye to post Dinosaur memes everyday and all day!

 

[Mehdipersian]

New SU-57 rumors for IRIAF

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[Shags101]

New SU-57 rumors for IRIAF

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I’m like everybody else let’s see the first visual evidence of su 35 on Iranian territory before su 57 is brought up doesn’t mean I don’t think they shouldn’t get it but seems like the Russians are still either incapable or delaying sending the su 35 to Iran if another country receives su 57 before Iran receives su 35 definitely playing games

 

[mack8]

Jangavar is quite a good channel, but let's see the IRIAF Su-35 first, just waiting for it is exasperating. THEN, if/once that happens, we can seriously talk about IRIAF Su-57 rumours.