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Again with your concocted narrative hungary!
In this case, the house or property was partially inhabited by neighbors fam...
Anyhow, US gave those weapons to defend and took your possessions and put a new mortgage on the place... you think you own it? The rest was taken but the fam next door... ouch J!
Dude, only that the next door was an "INTERNAITONALLY demarcated border"

And considering this, the next-door neighbor come to your house intended to kill you, are you going to just roll over and die? If you do, then I actually felt sorry for you not having a backbone

You have zero understanding on this issue, Ukraine don't want to be Russian, and it is NOT a question of we, yes I mean BOTH ME AND YOU to doubt because we don't have a say in it, and how do I know they don't want to be Russian? They are willing to die for the country they have, that's how I know.
 
Trump is giving Russia everything they want.


There is no negotiation.


Russia hasn't budged on anything:


No NATO membership


Not giving any territory held


Sanctions to be lifted


What a master negotiator this guy is
Yeah, and you do know Trump can only be on the seat and call the shot for 4 years, and 2 if Dem recover both house (which happened to EVERY SINGLE Presidential Change since 1976, except for the last one when Dem hold the senate)

So the question is, can Russia take Ukraine in 2 to 4 years for Zelenskyy to care about what Trump think?

Well...........

P.S. he can't lift sanction, as that was passed in bills, unless he can get the congress to vote in a bill to lift sanction, he can't do shit to whatever been passed, he can simply not pass any new sanction, and that's about it.
 
Dude, only that the next door was an "INTERNAITONALLY demarcated border"

And considering this, the next-door neighbor come to your house intended to kill you, are you going to just roll over and die? If you do, then I actually felt sorry for you not having a backbone

You have zero understanding on this issue, Ukraine don't want to be Russian, and it is NOT a question of we, yes I mean BOTH ME AND YOU to doubt because we don't have a say in it, and how do I know they don't want to be Russian? They are willing to die for the country they have, that's how I know.

Whatever floats your boat J!

The inhabitants were Russians and Ukrainians treated them as such and price was selling and mortgaging the rest of the place to US.
Nice bargain... again it helps you reconcile your analogy and I respect that...
 
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Yeah, and you do know Trump can only be on the seat and call the shot for 4 years, and 2 if Dem recover both house (which happened to EVERY SINGLE Presidential Change since 1976, except for the last one when Dem hold the senate)

So the question is, can Russia take Ukraine in 2 to 4 years for Zelenskyy to care about what Trump think?

Well...........

P.S. he can't lift sanction, as that was passed in bills, unless he can get the congress to vote in a bill to lift sanction, he can't do shit to whatever been passed, he can simply not pass any new sanction, and that's about it.


Trump made a comment that is more important than calling Z a dictator. He said if Zelensky doesn't move quickly he won't have a country left. Perhaps he knows more about the state of the war than the Europeans do, and doesn't want to throw good money after bad.
 
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Ok, both will be victorious if you like that wat, Ukraina will survive as any kind of state and Russia will seize all teritorries it aimed for plus strategic military control over what remains of free Ukraina,
This war now is a draw, and in the near and clear present future, it would still be a draw, unless something drastic happen, it will not change the needle anywhere.

It didn't matter if Russia "seize" any territories they aimed for, there were NEVER any strategic and military control of Ukraine for Russia, for that, they either need a Pro-Russian Ukrainian administation or they have to conquer Kyiv. Both of them aren't going to be achievable in the near future (I am talking about 50 years +)

You can keep thinking whatever you want, but as I said, you would expect Russia to either push the Ukrainian out of Kursk or took Porvorsk since last year, neither of them happened and it's almost March, that show you how much Russia can handle, I don't deal with what if, or what I think, I look at past military action to predict the future, you read your own lable,
 
Trump made a comment that is more important than calling Z a dictator. He said if Zelensky doesn't move quickly he won't have a country left. Perhaps he knows more about the state of the war than the Europeans do, and doesn't want to throw good money after bad.
Trump can call Zelenskyy whatever.

FACT to the matter is, US have not been supporting Ukraine since April last year when the last bill pass, what can US do to make the sitaution worse, unless Trump want to invade Ukraine himself, which he has no authority to do so, this is not going to change. Trump said a lot of thing but do only a little remember?

And if Russia want to take those land and is capable of, they would have gone and done it already, they are not pretending they aren't able to make progress in Ukraine, nobody wants to be appeared incompetent, not at least the quote "Second Biggest Army in the world" End Quote.

As I said, even if Trump some how force Ukraine to talk to Russia, what Russia had can make Ukraine consede their demand? They are definitely not going to drop their NATO bid just because Russia is holding 20% of Ukraine, they can't even ask for the entire donbas in this case, so again, what can they talk about?
 
Whatever floats your boat J!

The inhabitants were Russians and Ukrainians treated them as such and price was selling and mortgaging the rest of the place to US.
Nice bargain... again it helps you reconcile your analogy and I respect that...
No, WHATEVER FLOAT your boat mate.

You can claim all you want but again, as I said, we are an outsider, I personally know some Ukrainian who are pro-Russia before and actually married to a Russian and change their mind on Russia after this, you can have your own thought but your thought mean shit to these people who live their live in Ukraine.

You on the other hand, talk trash and speak nonsense because you think this is fun to do so, and you are here cheering for the sake of it while both side, not just the Ukrainian died because of this war, you ask what Ukrainian is dying for? Why don't you ask what Russian is dying for? Ukraine wasn't for Russia and NEVER want to be in Russia, that much is true with all the fighting and killing around, at least the Ukrainian know they are dying for their own land, so what exactly the Russian is dying for?

So yes, whatever float your boat man, and I don't talk to Idiots. So you can stop quoting me from now on.
 
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This war now is a draw, and in the near and clear present future, it would still be a draw, unless something drastic happen, it will not change the needle anywhere.

It didn't matter if Russia "seize" any territories they aimed for, there were NEVER any strategic and military control of Ukraine for Russia, for that, they either need a Pro-Russian Ukrainian administation or they have to conquer Kyiv. Both of them aren't going to be achievable in the near future (I am talking about 50 years +)

You can keep thinking whatever you want, but as I said, you would expect Russia to either push the Ukrainian out of Kursk or took Porvorsk since last year, neither of them happened and it's almost March, that show you how much Russia can handle, I don't deal with what if, or what I think, I look at past military action to predict the future, you read your own lable,
It is strategic control if the ukraina do not enter nato or any other western military assosation.
There is no perfect victory but i am sure russians will be satisfied with outcome, they will exit this war stronger then entered in it.
 
It is strategic control if the ukraina do not enter nato or any other western military assosation.
There is no perfect victory but i am sure russians will be satisfied with outcome, they will exit this war stronger then entered in it.
Again, how do you manage to have Ukraine concede to this damand?

You aren't going to have Ukraine drop this by just taking 20% of far east Ukrainian land, NATO is protection for Ukraine, that's the entire country depends on it, if NATO offer them membership in exchange for Ukraine just give the Russian Donbas, they will jump into this arragement.

For Ukraine, Donbas mean nothing, NATO mean everything, because you can stop this war, but as long as they remain independent, you cannot stop Russian aggression which mean NATO membership is paramount. If Russia stop Ukraine from joining NATO, that's the same as Russia asking for Round 2 of this war. You might as well conquer Ukraine, that would be easier to do that than to ask the Ukrainian to drop the NATO ambition, at least when Russia only holding 20% of Ukraine.

As for Russia coming out stronger? Well, the economy of Russia is already telling you, no. And it's gonna be that for a very long time way after this war is done, the damage is already done, and the economy is going out of control, if any country present a plan to raise interest rate to 20% and they still can't kerb the inflation, that is some serious economic problem, and that won't change even if Russia win the war with Ukraine, because that was the direct result of Western Sanction, and even Trump can't pull the US sanction already in place because that was done via a bill from the congress. Unless sanction is gone with the war is over, Russia economy will continue to suffer. That's a fact.
 
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Again, how do you manage to have Ukraine concede to this damand?

You aren't going to have Ukraine drop this by just taking 20% of far east Ukrainian land, NATO is protection for Ukraine, that's the entire country depends on it, if NATO offer them membership in exchange for Ukraine just give the Russian Donbas, they will jump into this arragement.

For Ukraine, Donbas mean nothing, NATO mean everything, because you can stop this war, but as long as they remain independent, you cannot stop Russian aggression which mean NATO membership is paramount. If Russia stop Ukraine from joining NATO, that's the same as Russia asking for Round 2 of this war. You might as well conquer Ukraine, that would be easier to do that than to ask the Ukrainian to drop the NATO ambition, at least when Russia only holding 20% of Ukraine.

As for Russia coming out stronger? Well, the economy of Russia is already telling you, no. And it's gonna be that for a very long time way after this war is done, the damage is already done, and the economy is going out of control, if any country present a plan to raise interest rate to 20% and they still can't kerb the inflation, that is some serious economic problem, and that won't change even if Russia win the war with Ukraine, because that was the direct result of Western Sanction, and even Trump can't pull the US sanction already in place because that was done via a bill from the congress. Unless sanction is gone with the war is over, Russia economy will continue to suffer. That's a fact.
It is already forced just matter of pace now will it end sooner or later, i would prefer sooner to avoid unnecessary bloodshed.

Frankly how western media and analytics people lie nower days i find zero credibility of their claims about hardshipsof russian econonomy.
 
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