Attack on Jaffer Express

[Oscar]

@Oscar we may have inadvertently crossed paths during Marriott all the chaos post incident. Met some folks from the MSG and one fellow who was from the FBI ERT there.

Possibly but unlikely - I came to drop someone off and then returned to get them boots instead of dress shoes. Hung around and went inside from where the gate rubble was to see things then watched Hashwani give his press conference.

But - the latter team was there for something else if you know what I mean.

 

[RescueRanger]

Possibly but unlikely - I came to drop someone off and then returned to get them boots instead of dress shoes. Hung around and went inside from where the gate rubble was to see things then watched Hashwani give his press conference.

But - the latter team was there for something else if you know what I mean.

Stay blessed brother.

 

[PakAl]

You make very valid points. The reason why the Pakistani intelligence cannot do anything is because one American phone call changes all their plans. These people are helpless.

This discussion will be forgotten in a few days. No one will remember that this incident happened because something new would have happened.

It is good to see people getting angry and emotional for a few days.

Do you recall we were hopelees on tackling terrorism until General Raheel Sharif came and give the danda back to them, the terrorists were controlling all tribal areas, including Swat, Buner, Malakant. We talked about how it's difficult for the army to mount an offensive but Raheel Sharif shocked everyone, he even visited UK and claimed we will not allow shadow of ISIS to operate, we all know who handles ISIS.

Even ISIS' shadow won't be allowed in Pakistan: Raheel Sharif

London: Army chief General Raheel Sharif has said Pakistan would not allow “even a shadow” of Islamic State and termed the group a greater threat

www.nation.com.pk

During General Bajwa time we went on the backfoot and now during Gen Asim Munir time the military is targetting PTI for all ills.

 

[PakAl]

As the Baloch leaders keep stressing, this conflict has a political and economic component. Only the government and military leaders keep hallucinating about a security solution.

Who controls Balochistan? RanaSanullah claiming interior ministry and government has no control and DGispr claiming local government is in control.

 

[arjunk]

Didn't Sethi say they are also coming from Iran?

So that's two troubling borders

To what extent are USA and co involved, given Iranian border

Iran may well be supporting destabilization of Pakistan to reduce Gwadar’s competitiveness in favor of Chabahar

Remember Iran has voted in favor of India against Kashmir, supported Zainaboun terrorists in Kurram, and hosted Indian terrorist commanders like Jadhav. They also attacked Pakistan with ballistic missiles, something even India has never done before.

The Iranians act like Shia Afghanistan - so treat them like it.

I don’t support a dismemberment of Iran because they (were) a good counter against Israeli influence. But they should at least be stripped of their Persian empire complex and respect our sovereignty.

 

[PakAl]

Regarding foreign narrative being built against Pakistan, i noticed ever since IK removal a certain extremist section of our society has increased its propaganda on Pakistan, its army, culture, history. These people stay quiet until they see a vacuum and when they saw a fallout between military and PTI they have started to gaslight everything, these people want to see Syrian like situation in Pakistan, they are very clever at narrative building, I doubt many Pakistanis would notice it. They are currently whispering sympathy words in to PTI fans ears, some extremist molvis also acting all sweet and kind to win some fans.

It's like when mian biwi are happy it's all good but when they fight suddenly everyone gets involved in order to make it worse, with some taking mian side and some biwi side, gaslighting the situation.

@RescueRanger - Have you came across anything like this, it feels like international led narrative is being built against Pakistan, its army, weaponary, history and culture and no reply from our rulers.

 

[Dalit]

Regarding foreign narrative being built against Pakistan, i noticed ever since IK removal a certain extremist section of our society has increased its propaganda on Pakistan, its army, culture, history. These people stay quiet until they see a vacuum and when they saw a fallout between military and PTI they have started to gaslight everything, these people want to see Syrian like situation in Pakistan, they are very clever at narrative building, I doubt many Pakistanis would notice it. They are currently whispering sympathy words in to PTI fans ears, some extremist molvis also acting all sweet and kind to win some fans.

It's like when mian biwi are happy it's all good but when they fight suddenly everyone gets involved in order to make it worse, with some taking mian side and some biwi side, gaslighting the situation.

@RescueRanger - Have you came across anything like this, it feels like international led narrative is being built against Pakistan, its army, weaponary, history and culture and no reply from our rulers.

Sounds like Hindutva.

 

[OakTree23]

In the last fiscal year, the FBR had a revenue target of 9,633 billion PKR, out of which Punjab alone contributed 6,630 billion PKR.

Highly misleading given that Punjab is the most populous province and has the most economic activity and investments ie Lahore. Look at the development in Lahore vs all of B stan. Don’t give me “oh we built an airport and CPEC.”

 

[OakTree23]

Again because we don't matter. People should ask why is the leader of a terrorist outfit that has been declared a terrorist outfit by Switzerland, Pakistan and the US hiding away in London? Why is he given safe harbour there?

Why should we care what some random youtuber has to say about Balochistan. As for the BBC, during the Lal Masjid operation, an Operation I was on the ground in lifting bodies, let me tell you I learned the truth about the International Media first hand that day.

Just narrative driven garbage. The are quick to switch on a dime, there are many learned and educated people in Pakistan and those who understand the terrain and struggles better than some rando sitting in London or Washington or Singapore.

But wohi baat hain na, ghar ki murghi daal barabar!

For that you need a charismatic leader like IK to put forth the narrative and to attract the international media. Look at the doofus now. Can’t out together a single sentence in English (the lingua Franca of the world.) even I don’t want to listen or see their faces good or bad news.

 

[Goenitz]

اعجاز حیدر: کامیابی تب ہے، جب دہشت گردی کو ہونے ہی نہیں دیا جائے، جو دہشت گرد آئیں ہی مرنے، انہیں مار کر ڈھول پیٹنا اپنی نااہلی چھپانا ہے۔
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No thread on ISPR conference? or should we continue here?

 

[Hakikat ve Hikmet]

We got one. Maryam nawaz. Just legitimise her as a proper dictator and all good.

'I would, while it was smiling in my face, / Have plucked the nipple from his boneless gums, / And dashed the brains out, had I so sworn / As you have done to this' - Shakespeare (The Tragedie of Macbeth)

After seeing Hasina's unimaginable cruelty I am pretty sure it's quite possible....

 

[FuturePAF]

Regarding foreign narrative being built against Pakistan, i noticed ever since IK removal a certain extremist section of our society has increased its propaganda on Pakistan, its army, culture, history. These people stay quiet until they see a vacuum and when they saw a fallout between military and PTI they have started to gaslight everything, these people want to see Syrian like situation in Pakistan, they are very clever at narrative building, I doubt many Pakistanis would notice it. They are currently whispering sympathy words in to PTI fans ears, some extremist molvis also acting all sweet and kind to win some fans.

It's like when mian biwi are happy it's all good but when they fight suddenly everyone gets involved in order to make it worse, with some taking mian side and some biwi side, gaslighting the situation.

@RescueRanger - Have you came across anything like this, it feels like international led narrative is being built against Pakistan, its army, weaponary, history and culture and no reply from our rulers.

Syria, Libya and Iraq are the cautionary tales for all Pakistanis that while rhe fighting can be political, it can’t be at the expense of the state. PTI has made this point (stating they have an issue with the top generals and not the whole army) but it has to be restated over and over again to remind the public, and to keep the political situation on the basis of individuals.

Btw, here is an Indian commando admitting where some Baluchi and Sindhi militants are trained (Chakrata, India):
7:00-7:30

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[AZ_HighCountry]

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No worries. The resident Pakistani on the other forum has been posting updates. Good to see the wannabe snipers should have thought through their choice of positions a little more.

 

[arjunk]

Syria, Libya and Iraq are the cautionary tales for all Pakistanis that while rhe fighting can be political, it can’t be at the expense of the state. PTI has made this point (stating they have an issue with the top generals and not the whole army) but it has to be restated over and over again to remind the public, and to keep the political situation on the basis of individuals.

Btw, here is an Indian commando admitting where some Baluchi and Sindhi militants are trained (Chakrata, India):
7:00-7:30

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J-35s would be ideal for deep strikes on Indian terrorist facilities within the mountains.

 

[arjunk]

Syria, Libya and Iraq are the cautionary tales for all Pakistanis that while rhe fighting can be political, it can’t be at the expense of the state. PTI has made this point (stating they have an issue with the top generals and not the whole army) but it has to be restated over and over again to remind the public, and to keep the political situation on the basis of individuals.

Btw, here is an Indian commando admitting where some Baluchi and Sindhi militants are trained (Chakrata, India):
7:00-7:30

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There are around 80 similar terror camps across India.