Attack on Jaffer Express

Azin said:
PTI virus is still strong in this forum that's all these people are irrelevant to talk to
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What you describe as a "virus" and imply to be a disease is, in fact, a reflection of a broader sentiment among many conscientious young men and women across Pakistan... Disillusioned by state narratives, they are searching for peace and purpose, a pursuit that is not inherently negative, but rather indicative of a growing desire for truth and understanding...

This is no longer about a political party or a single leader. Even if Imran Khan himself were to urge the people to fall back in line with the establishment, it would make little difference. What the true powers of this country fail to grasp is that they are up against something far greater... they are up against time itself. The world has changed, the tides have shifted, and any attempt to crush this awakening is not only futile but dangerously out of touch with reality.
 
M. Sarmad said:
What you describe as a "virus" and imply to be a disease is, in fact, a reflection of a broader sentiment among many conscientious young men and women across Pakistan... Disillusioned by state narratives, they are searching for peace and purpose, a pursuit that is not inherently negative, but rather indicative of a growing desire for truth and understanding...

This is no longer about a political party or a single leader. Even if Imran Khan himself were to urge the people to fall back in line with the establishment, it would make little difference. What the true powers of this country fail to grasp is that they are up against something far greater... they are up against time itself. The world has changed, the tides have shifted, and any attempt to crush this awakening is not only futile but dangerously out of touch with reality.
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They think he will make all their problems go away. It will just delay it until the end of his tenure and they will come back even harder like they have done now.

Pakistanis love flirting with extremism and cult worship. It's in their DNA. They are not very practical people. If they were they would be like Chinese who have zero tolerance towards dissent as a society and they wouldn't still deciding who are the good guys and bad guys :ROFLMAO:
 
I remember years ago having discussions that 'our generals and military saved Pakistan from a Syria like situation during war on terror.'

Many praises sang about this by lots of people. It's ironic how the same institution is now responsible for leading Pakistan towards another Syria like trajectory.

Question really remains, is it too late already or can we salvage this?
 
M. Sarmad said:
What you describe as a "virus" and imply to be a disease is, in fact, a reflection of a broader sentiment among many conscientious young men and women across Pakistan... Disillusioned by state narratives, they are searching for peace and purpose, a pursuit that is not inherently negative, but rather indicative of a growing desire for truth and understanding...

This is no longer about a political party or a single leader. Even if Imran Khan himself were to urge the people to fall back in line with the establishment, it would make little difference. What the true powers of this country fail to grasp is that they are up against something far greater... they are up against time itself. The world has changed, the tides have shifted, and any attempt to crush this awakening is not only futile but dangerously out of touch with reality.
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The people are against the State's narrative. We already have a massive class divide and there is an element of class consciousness amongst our people. A select few managing to run and benefit from the state whilst the rest of the nation is struggling for scraps, some not even getting a crumb from it.
 
Distant_Observer said:
They think he will make all their problems go away. It will just delay it until the end of his tenure and they will come back even harder like they have done now.

Pakistanis love flirting with extremism and cult worship. It's in their DNA. They are not very practical people. If they were they would be like Chinese who have zero tolerance towards dissent as a society and they wouldn't still deciding who are the good guys and bad guys :ROFLMAO:
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Well really who is to blame for all of that? We haven't normalised education in Pakistan, and do I need to bring up the state's philosophy from the 80s?? We supported every single extremist ideal. Congratulations our society was coaxed into radicalist ideals without any education prior, leading it into becoming a society that's neither Islamic, neither tolerant, nor has a deep level of critical thinking.
 
MirageV3ff said:
Well really who is to blame for all of that? We haven't normalised education in Pakistan, and do I need to bring up the state's philosophy from the 80s?? We supported every single extremist ideal. Congratulations our society was coaxed into radicalist ideals without any education prior, leading it into becoming a society that's neither Islamic, neither tolerant, nor has a deep level of critical thinking.
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The people. They would rather hijack a train or blow themselves up than making money. That's why Punjab is pushing ahead and balochistan and FATA behave like central african republics.
 
Distant_Observer said:
They think he will make all their problems go away. It will just delay it until the end of his tenure and they will come back even harder like they have done now.

Pakistanis love flirting with extremism and cult worship. It's in their DNA. They are not very practical people. If they were they would be like Chinese who have zero tolerance towards dissent as a society and they wouldn't still deciding who are the good guys and bad guys :ROFLMAO:
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I tend to agree with you on this. Anyone who believes that PTI and Imran Khan hold all the answers to Pakistan’s problems is deeply mistaken. PTI, like the rest, is just another ineffectual political party. But that is not the most pressing issue at hand. Pakistan is unraveling, and what it needs now is a unifying force, a healing touch. Love him or hate him, no one commands mass support across the country quite like Imran Khan—not even the once-revered Army. From Khyber to Wahga, and from Gilgit to Karachi, his appeal cuts across regional, economic, sectarian, provincial, generational, and gender divides in a way no other leader (political or Askari) can hope to achieve...
 
M. Sarmad said:
What you describe as a "virus" and imply to be a disease is, in fact, a reflection of a broader sentiment among many conscientious young men and women across Pakistan... Disillusioned by state narratives, they are searching for peace and purpose, a pursuit that is not inherently negative, but rather indicative of a growing desire for truth and understanding...

This is no longer about a political party or a single leader. Even if Imran Khan himself were to urge the people to fall back in line with the establishment, it would make little difference. What the true powers of this country fail to grasp is that they are up against something far greater... they are up against time itself. The world has changed, the tides have shifted, and any attempt to crush this awakening is not only futile but dangerously out of touch with reality.
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Literally no I was one of them and I feel ashamed I ever supported this clown party
 
Azin said:
You don't even understand what I mean to say shows how clueless Pakistanis are no wonder the fatherland suffers
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I fully understand what you mean. It is not good for Pakistan.
 
Distant_Observer said:
They think he will make all their problems go away. It will just delay it until the end of his tenure and they will come back even harder like they have done now.

Pakistanis love flirting with extremism and cult worship. It's in their DNA. They are not very practical people. If they were they would be like Chinese who have zero tolerance towards dissent as a society and they wouldn't still deciding who are the good guys and bad guys :ROFLMAO:
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That is because the Chinese military doesn't interfere in politics unlike Pakistani generals. The Communist party does the politics.
 
Distant_Observer said:
The people. They would rather hijack a train or blow themselves up than making money. That's why Punjab is pushing ahead and balochistan and FATA behave like central african republics.
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Punjab receives the lionshare of the budget. It is also accused by all other provinces of stealing resources including your Sindhi PPP partners.

PML-N didn't win the elections. The generals helped PML-N win the elections.

You wonder why there is so much opposition to Punjab? PML-N and its supporters are not a unifying force for Pakistan. PML-N are jaag Punjabi jaag ethno-nationalists. PML-N and its supporters have more affinity with India. Pakistan will suffer a great deal as long as PML-N and PPP are in power with the help of the generals.

The Baloch have genuine grievances. They are not going to accept outsiders to explore and loot their resources. This is how Baloch feel because they have been ignored for most of their co-existence with Pakistan.

You guys better wake up and smell the coffee. BD has already happened for a reason.
 
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MirageV3ff said:
Well really who is to blame for all of that? We haven't normalised education in Pakistan, and do I need to bring up the state's philosophy from the 80s?? We supported every single extremist ideal. Congratulations our society was coaxed into radicalist ideals without any education prior, leading it into becoming a society that's neither Islamic, neither tolerant, nor has a deep level of critical thinking.
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Let's ask the tough question. Who brought militancy, illiteracy and radicalism to Pakistan?
 
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