Iranian Foreign & Resistance Front Strategy & Operations

[KHORSHIDSIYAH1488]

We see things differently concerning this. You choose to believe in Darwin ism and I in Deen. Two different D's.
His views are not retarded. They're based on concepts on which you apparently do not understand and henceforth it's cannot have patience with which you understand not.
If there's any country that has been able to protect its territory and people since 1979 then it is Iran. This not a matter of subjective interpretation.

You're historically wrong but I can understand you seeing things from that perspective if your subject matter is western states. As I have stated. As a Muslim I believe in the rules of war defined by what has been prescribed for us. Your entitled to choose your own set of believes as you see fit.

Because the world doesn't work that way my friend. The only outcome of shahadat is the loss of a soldier that could have meant the difference between defeat and victory. The Jews understand this. The whites understand this. Muslims choose not to understanding this. And this is one of the reasons behind the centuries long losing streak of the Muslim world.

 

[Tijani]

Because the world doesn't work that way my friend. The only outcome of shahadat is the loss of a soldier that could have meant the difference between defeat and victory. The Jews understand this. The whites understand this. Muslims choose not to understanding this. And this is one of the reasons behind the centuries long losing streak of the Muslim world.

Well just have to agree to disagree on this. You hold on to your beliefs and I to mine.

 

[KHORSHIDSIYAH1488]

Well just have to agree to disagree on this. You hold on to your beliefs and I to mine.

That's fair.

 

[Immortals]

Iran took a gamble on wrong syrian card and lost. If they were not impatient and let assad regime to go in dustbin of history at 2011 they could cook some more favorable conditions and preserve overall strategy, best what Iran can do is to let Arabs st least ten years from now to figure out their own shit together and then maybe come back with coherent strategy and reliable partners of there would be any,

They won the war. The problem was they never built a post war Syria because unlike Arabs and the West they cannot pour $100B to rebuild. So Assad stayed leader of a poor fractured and war tore nation. The second was they allowed Israel for over a decade to attack Syrian Army, Hezbollah, and Iran in Syria and did nothing to respond to hundreds of bombings and assassinations. This was true even with Solemani alive and in control and only worsened when he died. Nasrallah took over the Syria file and played it ultra conservative to his own demise.

Then Hamas picked the worst time to start an existential war for Palestine. And Iran/HZ had zero desire to join that war and eventually the war came to them as well.

Many errors and problems, but they had won Syria. The issue was they let Turkey shield the jihadis in Idilb and Russia had no desire to help mount an offensive to take Idlib, Iran didn’t either. They had this joke of a commission between Turkey-Iran-Russia to administer the ceasefire in Idlib province and frontlines. Big mistake.

 

[mulj]

They won the war. The problem was they never built a post war Syria because unlike Arabs and the West they cannot pour $100B to rebuild. So Assad stayed leader of a poor fractured and war tore nation. The second was they allowed Israel for over a decade to attack Syrian Army, Hezbollah, and Iran in Syria and did nothing to respond to hundreds of bombings and assassinations. This was true even with Solemani alive and in control and only worsened when he died. Nasrallah took over the Syria file and played it ultra conservative to his own demise.

Then Hamas picked the worst time to start an existential war for Palestine. And Iran/HZ had zero desire to join that war and eventually the war came to them as well.

Many errors and problems, but they had won Syria. The issue was they let Turkey shield the jihadis in Idilb and Russia had no desire to help mount an offensive to take Idlib, Iran didn’t either. They had this joke of a commission between Turkey-Iran-Russia to administer the ceasefire in Idlib province and frontlines. Big mistake.

Russia won the war with their essential air support and Iran had no say in negotiation, you just overplayed your cards with assad who backstabbed you since the beginning and were not ever true ally.
You would have better deal with as you called them jihadis if you ever dared to sit to the table with them but all that is in the past and Iran either has to carve or adapt to the new regional realities or to shift its geopolitical goals completely.

 

[Immortals]

Russia won the war with their essential air support and Iran had no say in negotiation, you just overplayed your cards with assad who backstabbed you since the beginning and were not ever true ally.
You would have better deal with as you called them jihadis if you ever dared to sit to the table with them but all that is in the past and Iran either has to carve or adapt to the new regional realities or to shift its geopolitical goals completely.

Iran had no say in negotiation? Iran had over 100 military points in Syria including many large bases (Imam Ali base for example). Does that sound like a country with no say?

When Israel complained to Russia about Iranian troops in Golan, Russia couldn’t convince Assad to have them withdraw.

Russian naval ships escorted Iranian energy tankers to Syria and Lebanon.

I followed the war closely since it started till it pretty much ended.

Assad won. And Iran went down in the history books as the first country in modern times to stop a Western led rebellion.

The issue again is Iran didn’t have funds to rebuild Syria. Neither did Russia. The only country that could have helped rebuild was China, but it showed no interest in Syria despite showing interest in Afghanistan. People through if Assad came back to power things would go back to pre-civil war, but they didnt. In the end it was people living in war like conditions without the actual war part that had society give up on him including his own alawite sect.

So naturally over time Assad’s corrupt SAA being to unravel from low pay and crippling inflation. The sanctions brought Assad down not the war. And Assad didn’t stab iran in the back he was a puppet in his end days who held power as long as his Baathist party didn’t sell him out. Which in the end they did.

Moral of the lesson is that the 20th and 21st century Arab governments are incompetent, as history has shown time and time again.

 

[Persian Gulf]

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if IRI has something hidden that can prevent war, now is the time to show it

 

[OldTwilight]

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if IRI has something hidden that can prevent war, now is the time to show it

Why you think IRI want to prevent war , a limited war is in interest of IRI to blame all shortcomings on war

 

[Flotilla]

Iran needs to be ready, and I'm not referring to offensive capabilities. A significant achievement for Iran would be successfully defending against an attack in a manner that renders military actions against the country ineffective and unsustainable. There's no need for a strong retaliation. Iran possesses certain strategic advantages that, if leveraged wisely, could alter the trajectory of this conflict.

The question is: How reliable is Iran's defense?

Agreed. It could be possible to hit a US CVN and shoot down some fighters for example or taken out nearest US bases with some minutes warning notice. Just to tell them that IRI can wipe out all US forces from Middle East without starting a III World War.
It was said that IRGCN tested the new supersonic cruise missile that would help to close a real A2/AD bubble.

 

[Persian Gulf]

Why you think IRI want to prevent war , a limited war is in interest of IRI to blame all shortcomings on war

war can be unpredictable, if oil/gas infrastructure is targeted then the economic situation will reach new lows and this is not sustainable for IRI

 

[Flotilla]

Many errors and problems, but they had won Syria. The issue was they let Turkey shield the jihadis in Idilb and Russia had no desire to help mount an offensive to take Idlib, Iran didn’t either. They had this joke of a commission between Turkey-Iran-Russia to administer the ceasefire in Idlib province and frontlines. Big mistake

Yes. But at long term they changed HZ for Turkey. Nowadays that is not a problem, but at long term if Turkey would have a good premier... And that makes Israel very nervous.

 

[mulj]

Iran had no say in negotiation? Iran had over 100 military points in Syria including many large bases (Imam Ali base for example). Does that sound like a country with no say?

When Israel complained to Russia about Iranian troops in Golan, Russia couldn’t convince Assad to have them withdraw.

Russian naval ships escorted Iranian energy tankers to Syria and Lebanon.

I followed the war closely since it started till it pretty much ended.

Assad won. And Iran went down in the history books as the first country in modern times to stop a Western led rebellion.

The issue again is Iran didn’t have funds to rebuild Syria. Neither did Russia. The only country that could have helped rebuild was China, but it showed no interest in Syria despite showing interest in Afghanistan. People through if Assad came back to power things would go back to pre-civil war, but they didnt. In the end it was people living in war like conditions without the actual war part that had society give up on him including his own alawite sect.

So naturally over time Assad’s corrupt SAA being to unravel from low pay and crippling inflation. The sanctions brought Assad down not the war. And Assad didn’t stab iran in the back he was a puppet in his end days who held power as long as his Baathist party didn’t sell him out. Which in the end they did.

Moral of the lesson is that the 20th and 21st century Arab governments are incompetent, as history has shown time and time again.

I will say only this, Damascus has more or less normal power supply only couple of months after assad fall, it speak volumes with whom Iran laid into bad.
Jolani government is competent more than any surrounding one but for unlucky for Iran not cooperative one due obvious reasons.

 

[Mehdipersian]

I will say only this, Damascus has more or less normal power supply only couple of months after assad fall, it speak volumes with whom Iran laid into bad.
Jolani government is competent more than any surrounding one but for unlucky for Iran not cooperative one due obvious reasons.

It hasn't been a month since these jolani terrorists executed 1,500 Alevi women and children because they are Alevi.

How are they different from Jewish terrorists?

 

[Tijani]

Why you think IRI want to prevent war , a limited war is in interest of IRI to blame all shortcomings on war

You do know that Iran has never started a war in its modern history? Only fools or profiteering zionist want war. Most Iranian officials know first hand the horrors of war and it is something to be taken lightly. They not not wish it on the Iranian people and not initiate war unless for defence.

 

[Tijani]

I will say only this, Damascus has more or less normal power supply only couple of months after assad fall, it speak volumes with whom Iran laid into bad.
Jolani government is competent more than any surrounding one but for unlucky for Iran not cooperative one due obvious reasons.

Only thing it says is that their headchopping demoncracy is being bankrolled by the powers that be. I do not see how they'll be able to hold the country together, even with all the petrodollars being pumped in.