Iranian Foreign & Resistance Front Strategy & Operations

[Tijani]

Still they are far more accepted by whole syrian society than assad traitorous gang ever was.
Iran made mistake on behalf of fear that Hezbollah will lose land route and supported and wasted almost 15 years and at end still lost that route. Masterful strategy indeed, your worst enemy would not write better.

That I'll give to give you. I have stated as such. Unfortunately the majority of the Syrian people are inclined (I'm being nice with my choice of words here) with headchopper democracy. This is the sad truth. I sincerely believe that they will come to rue the day they put the support being these cutthroats.
Hezbollah will continue to be supported. Iran will find new avenues to transport necessary equipment to Lebanon and besides, Hezbollah is relatively self-sufficient in the production of weapons. Iran foresaw the day it might have difficulties keeping the weapons corridors open and therefore prioritised the relative local production of weapons for all the resistance movements.
The West played its hand brilliantly on this one. That doesn't mean much though because the same geniuses thought they could decapitate Russia by using Ukraine as proxy. I give credit but they're hardly the Übermensch some make them out to be.

 

[Khorasan Black Flags]

Spying zion terrorists:

Israeli, paid by Iran, arrested for spying on Dimona nuclear site

Ayatollah regime allegedly paid Israeli tens of thousands of dollars for information on key installations across Israel.

www.israelhayom.com

Cash-strapped Israeli caught selling 'nuclear secrets' to Iranian intelligence

An indictment was filed Sunday against Doron Buchobza, falsely claiming he had access to the Negev Nuclear Research Center.

www.israelhayom.com

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[mulj]

So you wish for me prove your claims? Doesn't really work that way. If it's an argument I counter with my own but if you wish to put forward claims then you're responsible proving them.
You're too easily dismissive of Iran's ability to maintain the structures if help put in place. It's a long game that's being played. Türkiye is playing the same game but on someone else's behalf, being an outpost of zionist West's FUKUS NATO coalition member.
If you take this into consideration then the conclusion is that Türkiye is not capable of independent military or economic decisions concerning issues that matter. As the Americans have stated, there will be no strategic autonomy from any vassalstates.
Henceforth the possibility of Türkiye providing any kind of security guarantees for anyone is just not realistic as thinks look now. Erdogan might obviously have ambitions of liberating Türkiye from zionist empire but as things look at the moment those potential ambitions are just untenable ambitions. As the Don of the house of Trump said last time that he would, "obliterate' Turkey's economy if it takes 'off-limits" actions.

https://www.reuters.com/article/world/trump-threatens-to-obliterate-turkeys-economy-if-it-takes-off-limits-action-idUSKBN1WM1R3/

Listen, just put in search man forced to say assad akbar in syria and you will have your proof...
YOu played zero sum game and lost, bash Turkiye all you want with common accusations will not change fact that they are only fully functional state with capabilities to reverse jew western dominance, at least they are not in delusion that they can fight war against jews and collective west and wind meanwhile protecting and nurturing wellbeing of their citizens, Iran knows that to and from that reason caved in from protecting Hamas and Hezbollah living them to their own destiny, who says otherwise is no more then hypocrit.

 

[mulj]

That I'll give to give you. I have stated as such. Unfortunately the majority of the Syrian people are inclined (I'm being nice with my choice of words here) with headchopper democracy. This is the sad truth. I sincerely believe that they will come to rue the day they put the support being these cutthroats.
Hezbollah will continue to be supported. Iran will find new avenues to transport necessary equipment to Lebanon and besides, Hezbollah is relatively self-sufficient in the production of weapons. Iran foresaw the day it might have difficulties keeping the weapons corridors open and therefore prioritised the relative local production of weapons for all the resistance movements.
The West played its hand brilliantly on this one. That doesn't mean much though because the same geniuses thought they could decapitate Russia by using Ukraine as proxy. I give credit but they're hardly the Übermensch some make them out to be.

I do not want to go back and fort in characterisation of new syrian government, it is pointless...
Whole strategy deployed by Iran is proven wrong and disaster for the palestinian and lebanon people, you do not go into war unless you can not protect your civilians or return the same measures to the enemy civilians, period, no arguing about that.
Hamas miscalculated that badly and beside their successfull guerilla war they did not calculate readynes of their close allies to take same burden and now they are alone, that itself disqualify Iran from any future adventures like october 7 if that opportunity rise again at all.

 

[Shags101]

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if IRI has something hidden that can prevent war, now is the time to show it

Only two things will prevent war nuclear test or Iran bowing to pressure. If Iran tests a nuclear device severe sanctions like North Korea perhaps even worse if Iran bows to pressure and gives up its nuclear activities altogether I am fairly sure that would be the end of Iran as it is it might be swept up by the hardest elements of Iran who won’t want to bow down to anyone and perhaps bring a nuclear weapons test right after they take power.
I don’t think that’s to far fetched ultra nationalists taking over to preserve what they feel is Iranian integrity

 

[Snake]

Iran hesitates to draw blood. When soleimani was killed they gave a warning to USA. When embassy was bombed without warning they coordinated attack on the Jewish state. Same thing with TP2 which should be a reference to Toilet Paper 2-ply.

If every offensive move is done with proxies and Iran does not show a willingness to get dirty it will be too late. The Jewish state has killed Iranian soldiers on Iranian soil. What did they die for?

 

[Shags101]

Assad and the Baath party were a secular nationalist dictatorship. Whatever they did, they did not intend to commit genocide of innocents or religious war.

Intending or not he and his inner circle saw their grip on power coming to an end during the Arab spring decided it’s better to deal brutally with protesters than listen to their grievances. I say this again I actually had high hopes for Assad I thought he really wasn’t interested in holding on to power I thought he would pass the baton to a better unified Syria and during the Arab spring he could have peacefully transitioned to a united Syria but he decided to go the other way. The only reason there wasn’t more mass killings was Iran Russia and Hezbollah basically took over leadership and military roles in fighting and Syrian forces were brought back to stay in major cities like Damascus to guard and keep their butts away from the front lines

 

[Tijani]

Listen, just put in search man forced to say assad akbar in syria and you will have your proof...
YOu played zero sum game and lost, bash Turkiye all you want with common accusations will not change fact that they are only fully functional state with capabilities to reverse jew western dominance, at least they are not in delusion that they can fight war against jews and collective west and wind meanwhile protecting and nurturing wellbeing of their citizens, Iran knows that to and from that reason caved in from protecting Hamas and Hezbollah living them to their own destiny, who says otherwise is no more then hypocrit.

As I've previously stated. It's not how it works. If you state something as fact then it is up to provide evidence of such. That's if you wish to provide a base for your arguments.

You seem to be under the impression that I'm arguing against you. I am not. I am arguing the validity of arguments and any evidence that you may provide to underpin your perspective.

I am not bashing Türkiye, I have high hopes for the country, as I have all Muslim majority countries. I have the same best interest in heart for all countries because we're more or less under the same zionist occupation.

The truth of the matter is that whilst Türkiye may have internal autonomy this does not extend externally. I have explain why and given evidence to support my claims. I believe that Erdogan is an ambitious man and wish to achieve Turkish independence, despite the fact that I disagree with his reasons, I respect that.

So the sore spot is that Iran has been willing to face the full wrath of zionist West? Since you entitle me as "YOU" then let me accept it on the behalf of the AOR. I am happy that you seem to believe that it is Iran's responsibility to protect Hezbollah and Hamas. You have apparently not been following Iranian official policy. Please let me clarify. The members of the Axis of Resistance are not beholden Iran. Iran provides support for any resistance movements against western zionist occupation. You're now arguing that Türkiye should provide defence protection for Syria and Lebanon but at the same damming Iran for not being able to provide the necessary protection. This is highly irrational. Please provide evidence what the modern Türkiye republic has never done to provide assistance to the above-mentioned countries.

No need to be emotional concerning our argumentation. Nothing personal against you. Please go through my arguments and provide evidence of any hypocritical.

 

[Tijani]

I do not want to go back and fort in characterisation of new syrian government, it is pointless...
Whole strategy deployed by Iran is proven wrong and disaster for the palestinian and lebanon people, you do not go into war unless you can not protect your civilians or return the same measures to the enemy civilians, period, no arguing about that.
Hamas miscalculated that badly and beside their successfull guerilla war they did not calculate readynes of their close allies to take same burden and now they are alone, that itself disqualify Iran from any future adventures like october 7 if that opportunity rise again at all.

If you do not wish to continue our argumentation then that's your choice. I am arguing with you because I believe you posted points which were illogical, irrational and factually inaccurate.
Nothing personal. I hope you do not take it as such.

 

[mulj]

If you do not wish to continue our argumentation then that's your choice. I am arguing with you because I believe you posted points which were illogical, irrational and factually inaccurate.
Nothing personal. I hope you do not take it as such.

Not really, i engaged in this talk with you as i saw your other posts as sensible, interesting and with some insight.
Sadly here we have completely different opinions and i also do not want to be understood as something personal from my side as i appreciate Iran struggle in lot of ways but have my portion of criticism of it when i see ones by my own reasoning. Consider this as a reply on your other post too.

 

[Shags101]

Listen, just put in search man forced to say assad akbar in syria and you will have your proof...
YOu played zero sum game and lost, bash Turkiye all you want with common accusations will not change fact that they are only fully functional state with capabilities to reverse jew western dominance, at least they are not in delusion that they can fight war against jews and collective west and wind meanwhile protecting and nurturing wellbeing of their citizens, Iran knows that to and from that reason caved in from protecting Hamas and Hezbollah living them to their own destiny, who says otherwise is no more then hypocrit.

I don’t totally disagree with that end of the day Iran has to worry about themselves they at least tried to counter Israel but Assad was never really backing iranian influence they just wanted Iran and their proxies to keep him in power. Let’s give it to iran they at least tried to back up those groups and people a lot more than turkey and many fellow Muslim and Arab countries.

Turkey is in itself a political upheaval you have a guy who I also had a lot of hope for thought he would unite people and countries is now looking to stop any kind of descent to his rule and keep him and his party in power indefinitely so he’s become everything he’s always criticized.

I don’t see any real counter to Israel or America in the near future Egypt is strong militarily on paper but its economy would free fall in the event of war, Saudis again on paper strong militarily but has no desire to fight to save others otherwise they would’ve intervened long time ago and so on and so on


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[Shags101]

I don't know why salafi zionist erdogan lovers & Bani Ummayad [the filthy murderers of Prophet Muhammed (PBUH) family] lovers don't get banned from this thread

Because it’s an open forum to discuss things not to spout racist comments like what you have stated

 

[Tijani]

Not really, i engaged in this talk with you as i saw your other posts as sensible, interesting and with some insight.
Sadly here we have completely different opinions and i also do not want to be understood as something personal from my side as i appreciate Iran struggle in lot of ways but have my portion of criticism of it when i see ones by my own reasoning.

Likewise! We are all entitled to our perspectives. It's not sadly, we're suppose to have differing opinions on matters that matter. Let's all strive to keep it respectful. Non taken personal. Never.

 

[mulj]

I don’t totally disagree with that end of the day Iran has to worry about themselves they at least tried to counter Israel but Assad was never really backing iranian influence they just wanted Iran and their proxies to keep him in power. Let’s give it to iran they at least tried to back up those groups and people a lot more than turkey and many fellow Muslim and Arab countries.

Turkey is in itself a political upheaval you have a guy who I also had a lot of hope for thought he would unite people and countries is now looking to stop any kind of descent to his rule and keep him and his party in power indefinitely so he’s become everything he’s always criticized.

I don’t see any real counter to Israel or America in the near future Egypt is strong militarily on paper but its economy would free fall in the event of war, Saudis again on paper strong militarily but has no desire to fight to save others otherwise they would’ve intervened long time ago and so on and so on


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Turkiye plays different game all along, tech parity then action, they know first handed what might they would face, that kind of clarity and insight i am afraid lacks in reasoning of other open or covert zionist enemies and their western proxies. They play game with badly given cards and turks are just trying to avoid that. It is simple as a concept but humongous and difficult challenge to transfer it into concrete reality.

 

[Shags101]

Likewise! We are all entitled to our perspectives. It's not sadly, we're suppose to have differing opinions on matters that matter. Let's all strive to keep it respectful. Non taken personal. Never.

Totally agree kind of why I like you

Turkiye plays different game all along, tech parity then action, they know first handed what might they would face, that kind of clarity and insight i am afraid lacks in reasoning of other open or covert zionist enemies and their western proxies. They play game with badly given cards and turks are just trying to avoid that. It is simple as a concept but humongous and difficult challenge to transfer it into concrete reality.

i definitely get turkey is attempting to spread their influence as does every other supposed Arab and Muslim power but without each country backing a unified plan they come into conflict eventually. Turkey has plans for Syria so does Qatar so does Saudi Arabia and so on and so on if I have to say whose best at moving pieces on the board currently it’s Qatar it’s playing everyone against each other while being the smallest and technically the weakest of said countries. Qatar has been playing all parties against each other and never having to raise a finger it has the strongest media mouthpiece to spread the word, money to influence people and groups and backing by America
Kind of noticed the thread the topic is starting to diverge…..