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muhammed45 said:
We have hypersonic missiles too. But no sane military force throws its existing mass produced and massively deployed missiles away all of a sudden.

It will take time to arm the navy with hypersonic weapons. Mass production lines, preparing the crew and mass deployment is not an easy job. According to IRGC general they are going to unveil a hypersonic AShCM with 2,000 Km range and also non-gliding.
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you didn't get it ,
These should turned to stealth one ....
we should not produce any more sub-sonic non-stealth cruise missiles .
 
OldTwilight said:
you didn't get it ,
These should turned to stealth one ....
we should not produce any more sub-sonic non-stealth cruise missiles .
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Our anti ship missile forces have focused on swarming the enemy ships. Mostly active in coastal areas.

Cruise missiles are naturally radar evading. Low flight profile, low altitude and small RCS.

What you suggest reminds me of air launched cruise missiles. Not a priority till developing or purchasing capable multi role fighter jets or stealth bombers.
 
muhammed45 said:
Our anti ship missile forces have focused on swarming the enemy ships. Mostly active in coastal areas.

Cruise missiles are naturally radar evading. Low flight profile, low altitude and small RCS.

What you suggest reminds me of air launched cruise missiles. Not a priority till developing or purchasing capable multi role fighter jets or stealth bombers.
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no , the enemy has AWACS and satellite surveillance,
without stealth platform , they can detect these from far away and react in time....

like Yemen ...


and don't rely on water effect , with some signal processing couple with simple AI it can be removed
 
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"kill us as much as you like"

"when you will be added to the naval Basijis of the Islamic world this will crush the rotten bones of the Zionists"

beyond parody
 
OldTwilight said:
no , the enemy has AWACS and satellite surveillance,
without stealth platform , they can detect these from far away and react in time....

like Yemen ...


and don't rely on water effect , with some signal processing couple with simple AI it can be removed
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This is precisely the case, and people are underestimating their enemies far too much.
Even when Yemen fired hundreds of missiles, they had absolutely no effect on the U.S. Navy.
On the other hand, the flagship of Russia's proud Black Sea Fleet was miserably sunk by just a single outdated anti-ship missile from Ukraine.
Western military technology has now reached a terrifying level, with a technological gap that separates it from non-Western camps.
Iran needs a fundamental shift in thinking.
Kim Jong-un has already successfully tested an ultra-long-range autonomous torpedo with a range exceeding 1,000 kilometers. Even countries with nuclear capabilities are not underestimating the U.S. and are continuing full-scale modernization efforts.
The Iranian government and military should abandon their attitude of underestimating their enemies and commit fully to modernization.
 
OldTwilight said:
no , the enemy has AWACS and satellite surveillance,
without stealth platform , they can detect these from far away and react in time....

like Yemen ...


and don't rely on water effect , with some signal processing couple with simple AI it can be removed
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We used radar images to study landforms of earth. But i have never heard of detecting CM with SAR or RADARSAT satellites.

USA's military satellites are actively spying on the whole world, i know for a fact that they can change their orbits in LEO range and also compensate the defects casued by gravity anomaly. But how many of them can be deployed around the earth? Unlike the geocentric satellites, sats active in LEO range cannot have 24/7/365 temporal resolution on one Spot let alone detecting and following a path as narrow as a route of a flying cruise missile close to Geoid.

Reason is we are bound to earth features such as gravity. No one can scape that except to obey the laws of nature unless a scientific miracle has already taken place somewhere in the US and they can generate a force greater than G force and an engine that compensates each and every stall and uplift force in space hence move in opposite direction of natural forces that keeps satellites in orbit avoiding sudden fall.
 
OldTwilight said:
no , the enemy has AWACS and satellite surveillance,
without stealth platform , they can detect these from far away and react in time....

like Yemen ...


and don't rely on water effect , with some signal processing couple with simple AI it can be removed
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I am sure that you are aware of dangers of sending an AWACS to monitor a flying CM. Even F-14 flying 400-500 Km away with its new upgraded processors can detect and shoot the hell out of that giant airborne radar. Let alone the strong IADS netwrok of Iran.

Iran is not a weak country bro. I am not denying existence of possible dark assets in the US but we are not handcuffed too.

I give you a clue, after downing the MQ-4, USA completely forgot about attacking Iran. That was the sole potential platform for threatening us. But we successfully fked it in the air.
 
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muhammed45 said:
I am sure that you are aware of dangers of sending an AWACS to monitor a flying CM. Even F-14 flying 400-500 Km away with its new upgraded processors can detect and shoot the hell out of that giant airborne radar. Let alone the strong IADS netwrok of Iran.

Iran is not a weak country bro. I am not denying existence of possible dark assets in the US but we are not handcuffed too.

I give you a clue, after downing the MQ-4, USA completely forgot about attacking Iran. That was the sole potential platform for threatening us. But we successfully fked it in the air.
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AEW or AWACS radars are so damn good that they can detect from hundreds of miles any incoming aircraft or even missiles.
Moreover AEW or AWACS are always escorted by long range fighters during conflicts, and pressumably in Omán Sea they would operate in conjunction with later versions of Super Hornets and AIM 260 missiles (long range ones). Assisted by tankers and probably covered by very long range SM6 AA missiles. The only chance would be having some Su35 with R37M operating in conjunction with ECM systems capable of emitting very high powerful radio signals at same frequencies of the E2/3/4 radars in order to blind at least some portions of the radar. I am pretty sure IRI has those russian origin ECM systems, but not sure about Su35, R37M and their avaiabilty.
 
Flotilla said:
AEW or AWACS radars are so damn good that they can detect from hundreds of miles any incoming aircraft or even missiles.
Moreover AEW or AWACS are always escorted by long range fighters during conflicts, and pressumably in Omán Sea they would operate in conjunction with later versions of Super Hornets and AIM 260 missiles (long range ones). Assisted by tankers and probably covered by very long range SM6 AA missiles. The only chance would be having some Su35 with R37M operating in conjunction with ECM systems capable of emitting very high powerful radio signals at same frequencies of the E2/3/4 radars in order to blind at least some portions of the radar. I am pretty sure IRI has those russian origin ECM systems, but not sure about Su35, R37M and their avaiabilty.
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Our drones are monitoring Arabian sea 24/7 and their total number can increase in case of high alert. No AWACS carrying platform can get close to Iranian shores at least for and within 2,000 Km range. And i am not counting on 4,000 Km suicide drone, wrongly assuming they are all shot down.

Iranian A2/AD capability in second to non in the entire region. I never bring Russian platforms into my calculations, assuming that they won't be delivered for tens of reasons. Despite being capable platforms, even if Iran receives Sukhois, they will remain deep inside the country to reduce the immense pressure on IADS network of Iran.

And i don't think that Americans have reached a level of stupidity to send AWACS solely to detect AShCM of Iran in that danger zone.
 
muhammed45 said:
Our drones are monitoring Arabian sea 24/7 and their total number can increase in case of high alert. No AWACS carrying platform can get close to Iranian shores at least for and within 2,000 Km range. And i am not counting on 4,000 Km suicide drone, wrongly assuming they are all shot down.

Iranian A2/AD capability in second to non in the entire region. I never bring Russian platforms into my calculations, assuming that they won't be delivered for tens of reasons. Despite being capable platforms, even if Iran receives Sukhois, they will remain deep inside the country to reduce the immense pressure on IADS network of Iran.

And i don't think that Americans have reached a level of stupidity to send AWACS solely to detect AShCM of Iran in that danger zone.
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Well, you can bring those systems already in service in IRI armed forces. We have visual evidences of at least SPN-30 jammers in IRI service. That systems have been developed for jamming SAR and SLAR surveillance systems. And probably IRI have designed any indigenous system capable of jamming more powerful AEW and AWACS systems.
 
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Iranina Hatef nuclear powered submarine which can shoot all kinds of missiles everywhere any day ☢☢🚀

They can be equipped with 12 Hypersonic Fattah 1,2,3 missiles or 42 cruise missiles ☢💥 🚀 💥

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