Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

If Iran ACTUALLY could not make a nuclear weapon and deliver it soon/in a few week, US paranoia about Iran and its nuclear program wouldn't make sense.

Also given all the technology available and time passed that Iran has had access to, making a nuclear weapon now is most likely not difficult for Iran, i mean, N. Korea has them and is N Korea more technologically advanced than in Iran? No.
Yes, North Korea is more technologically advanced than Iran.
They are ahead of Iran in liquid-fueled missiles and they're miles ahead of Iran in nuclear technology.

But again, it is not a question of whether Iran can build an atomic weapon or not. Iran certainly can do that.
 
What's the difference for Iran?
Iran hasn't weaponized its enriched uranium after 22 years of struggling with really tough sanctions.

We can continue to stockpile enriched uranium, but if we don't want to go after weaponization of it, it is absolutely useless and a complete waste of resources and energy.

Countries with commercial nuclear enrichment go after 1 million SWU U/year. Iran's SWU capacity is about 10K SWU UF6/year. Soon, we will have 3 nuclear reactors that each one of them requires 27 tones of uranium enriched to 3.5%. Our nuclear enrichment has to increase to 550,000 SWU UF6/year to support our own nuclear program for one year. Do you think the West will allow us to increase our enrichment 55 times? Of course not.

So, if we can't use our enriched uranium for our own nuclear reactors, and if we don't intend to use it for fission bombs, then why should we continue to do something that is useless and stupid?

Okay, so you have to step back a bit.
Why is Iran under the scanner in the first place?
Before uranium it was about oil,
Before Ayatollahs it was the shah,
Before theocracy it was autocracy...
What is the purpose of someone so concerned with Iranian affairs and how they deal within or in their region?
The equation is not zion has an ally and friend in Arabs, Kurds, Turks or Iranians. The one who seeks to rule and superimpose itself on the region seeks NONE!
Scattered and squabbling seeking zion as their SAVIOR!

Iran isn't in crosshairs because it seeks to produce its own electricity... it is because of what it endows and what it represents. A coherent mass that challenges a supremacist state. Who will not accept you AS IS even if you submit, kneel and kissed the ring. It is the same with regional Arab rump states... who eat seeing their own die and shown live on the big screen. It is the same for Turks and Egyptians.
I have nothing to prove here... they say so... did so and in time gung ho for what remains. Which is why those who claim that they kept their heads down find themslves hit harder... relegated to abomination Abbas like situation.

If Iran is to survive, there is nothing but to build up... bigger, better longer and keep repeating till you create enough of space between you and the belligerent. They must know that they are called out and fair play. The paradigm that sustains them is just about done... they will no longer have that window, utility nor capacity to overwhelm, escalate or respond with superior firepower.

in fact, if anything Iran should do military training and exercises with Russians, Chinese and other regional states. Go for a coalition and not solo... especially in talks. JCPOA had guarantors, they remained true... commit them... they didn't blink.

Thing is zion is now on an expedited timeline and the war on Iran was slated for Obama's terms... he dithered... but did deliver Libya... Miliekowsky chosen model for Iran. While they play good cop, bad cop routine.
 
Okay, so you have to step back a bit.
Why is Iran under the scanner in the first place?
Before uranium it was about oil,
Before Ayatollahs it was the shah,
Before theocracy it was autocracy...
What is the purpose of someone so concerned with Iranian affairs and how they deal within or in their region?
The equation is not zion has an ally and friend in Arabs, Kurds, Turks or Iranians. The one who seeks to rule and superimpose itself on the region seeks NONE!
Scattered and squabbling seeking zion as their SAVIOR!

Iran isn't in crosshairs because it seeks to produce its own electricity... it is because of what it endows and what it represents. A coherent mass that challenges a supremacist state. Who will not accept you AS IS even if you submit, kneel and kissed the ring. It is the same with regional Arab rump states... who eat seeing their own die and shown live on the big screen. It is the same for Turks and Egyptians.
I have nothing to prove here... they say so... did so and in time gung ho for what remains. Which is why those who claim that they kept their heads down find themslves hit harder... relegated to abomination Abbas like situation.

If Iran is to survive, there is nothing but to build up... bigger, better longer and keep repeating till you create enough of space between you and the belligerent. They must know that they are called out and fair play. The paradigm that sustains them is just about done... they will no longer have that window, utility nor capacity to overwhelm, escalate or respond with superior firepower.

in fact, if anything Iran should do military training and exercises with Russians, Chinese and other regional states. Go for a coalition and not solo... especially in talks. JCPOA had guarantors, they remained true... commit them... they didn't blink.

Thing is zion is now on an expedited timeline and the war on Iran was slated for Obama's terms... he dithered... but did deliver Libya... Miliekowsky chosen model for Iran. While they play good cop, bad cop routine.
Dude, that's a long scroll of nonsense that is irrelevant to the current situation.

The Grand Ayatollah has decided that Iran cannot build nuclear weapons, for whatever reason. I think it's stupid, but let it be. Other than for weaponization, Iran's nuclear program does not have the technical scale to be used for anything of civilian value other than running the Tehran research reactor for a short time. But even the TRR has to be replaced soon and we have no plans for that. So, it makes no sense for Iran to keep playing this losing game.

The rest of it is nonsense.
 
Dude, that's a long scroll of nonsense that is irrelevant to the current situation.

The Grand Ayatollah has decided that Iran cannot build nuclear weapons, for whatever reason. I think it's stupid, but let it be. Other than for weaponization, Iran's nuclear program does not have the technical scale to be used for anything of civilian value other than running the Tehran research reactor for a short time. But even the TRR has to be replaced soon and we have no plans for that. So, it makes no sense for Iran to keep playing this losing game.

The rest of it is nonsense.

You don't have to extract anything out of what I said... the proof is in the pudding. If Iranians think that they can stall or avert what is coming than sadly they're mistaken.
My last word... Goodluck!
 
Even the Taliban or the ISIS can produce a gun-type weapon.
But we have credible information from Israeli sources that Iran worked on an implosion device similar to Mark V in US arsenal before 2003. Mainly in late 90s. Apparently, the Israeli nuclear engineers believed that Iran's device could achieve 30 kilotons but there isn't any information about how much uranium Iran had used to achieve that yield.
If true, then that disproves what I've been discussing with another member who is convinced Iran doesn't yet have a bomb.
 
This could be more propaganda to pressure Iran to accept Nuclear and non-nuclear terms favorable to US.

What the US govt isnt telling anyone is that it is afraid to tell Americans that Americans had to die again in another war it wasn't authorized to fight on AMericans behalf.

After seeing US's not so good performance against Ansarallah over the past few weeks, Hajizadeh the IRGC commander made his comments about "US will not carry out its threats to attack us"- he may be literally wrong, and US may attack Iran, but thats not his point- his point is that US doesnt possess the necessary overall strength and determination to attack Iran in a way that either defeats Iran or forces to surrender, which means US losses...again.


you are discounting the use of tactical nukes this time. it is quite possible we will see nukes this time, israel and usa will never let iran have even enriched uranium. its not about civilian use at this time, its a out not even a gram of uranium of plutonium can stay there, so the infrastructure has to be taken down or completely destroyed..
 
If true, then that disproves what I've been discussing with another member who is convinced Iran doesn't yet have a bomb.
It's widely believed to be true in the intelligence community because of two reasons:
1. It is part of the "confidential" documents that Israel claims to have stolen from inside Iran. It is mostly in line with what we knew about Iran's nuclear program through old IAEA reports and people like David Albright and it confirms many of the previously believed assumptions.
2. Some of the things in those documents were later to be proven to be true. For example, Netanyahu talked about a nuclear storage in Turquz-Abad. The Iranian officials started to make fun of the claim because Turquz-Abad is a city with a funny-sounding name in Persian, but the IAEA later found traces of highly enriched uranium there.

Netanyahu presented an implosion device, a schematic of the device with a flight inserted pit, and even displayed what appears to be a simulation of explosion waves of the device converging to a single point.
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Iran did have a nuclear weapons program in 1990s and early 2000s. Iran even purchased cameras with really high time resolution close to femtoseconds from the Czech Republic, if my memory serves me well. Obviously, the most reasonable assumption is that Iran purchased these cameras to study how fast and accurately the explosion waves converged. There was also a Ukrainian nuclear engineer (Vyacheslav Danilenko) that used to work in the Soviet nuclear program and allegedly helped Iran with the hydrodynamics of an implosion device. He was even investigated by the UN nuclear inspectors but told them that he helped Iran build artificial diamonds for oil extraction.
 
You don't have to extract anything out of what I said... the proof is in the pudding. If Iranians think that they can stall or avert what is coming than sadly they're mistaken.
My last word... Goodluck!
Of course, because it was just useless blah blah blah with nothing technical or of value in it but just the usual rambling we read on PDF.

Iran stalled and averted what was coming for her in 2006. Bush had threatened Iran with a military invasion in 2006. This was revealed to the public when a top IRGC general (Mohsen Rezaee) and Ahmadinejad were discussing politics in one-on-one interviews for the presidential race in 2009. Mohsen Rezaee claimed, and Ahmadinejad confirmed, that Bush had sent Iran a letter and gave Iran a 6-month ultimatum to prepare for a ground invasion of Iran. So, yeah. It's happened before. And truth to be told, from what we read in the media from Witkoff and Trump, the deal that Trump is offering Iran is quite good for Iran. It is a de-escalatory move. Similar to what he did with North Korea.
 
Of course, because it was just useless blah blah blah with nothing technical or of value in it but just the usual rambling we read on PDF.

Iran stalled and averted what was coming for her in 2006. Bush had threatened Iran with a military invasion in 2006. This was revealed to the public when a top IRGC general (Mohsen Rezaee) and Ahmadinejad were discussing politics in one-on-one interviews for the presidential race in 2009. Mohsen Rezaee claimed, and Ahmadinejad confirmed, that Bush had sent Iran a letter and gave Iran a 6-month ultimatum to prepare for a ground invasion of Iran. So, yeah. It's happened before. And truth to be told, from what we read in the media from Witkoff and Trump, the deal that Trump is offering Iran is quite good for Iran. It is a de-escalatory move. Similar to what he did with North Korea.

Egypt has a camp david deal, palestinians have oslo accord, saudi uae and jordan have defense pacts, turkey has nato. itan is the only one left, rest of the countries who did not have a deal have been destroyed. think about it for a secon ya’ll .. uncle sam wont hesitate
 
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