Indian false flag and current Indo-Pak stand-off updates

[Meengla]

Kashmiri want freedom, tourist dollars are not everything when your people, faith, culture are under attack across India
Many Kashmiri don't like foreigners turning up in their land when they are under attack and curfew

Correct.
If just eating three meals a day would be enough for human beings then from the Pharos of Ancient Egypt to the hapless people in Gaza today there wouldn't be any uprisings!

 

[Jaeger]

Non sense. Even a minor skirmish with India would hurt the much weaker Pakistani economy more; as I said, Trump's tariff has already dented Pakistan's GDP growth projection and here you are talking about an open conflict with India??!!
BTW, contrary to what this forum has led you to believe: Pakistani Army is not in as dire situation to start a conflict against India to 'regain lost popularity'. Firstly, there are clearly reversals of which Imran Khan has enjoyed, though this forum would remain in denial. Secondly, Pakistanis would automatically become 'patriotic' in case any conflict starts with India should India be foolish enough to start a conflict.
There is for sure a 'hybrid' semi-martial law in Pakistan and I don't mind that as long as there are continuation of policies for the next 15-20 years and I don't care who is in power during those years. But you have a false reading of what happened not just today in Indian Occupied Kashmir but also a false reading of the overall political situation in Pakistan!!!

Pakistani army does not care for gdp numbers, as long as their budgets remain unaffected.

A small confrontation with India does not affect Pakistani economy And last confrontation with India did wonders for Pakistani armed forces reputation with in Pakistan.

A terrorist attack in Kashmir while a high ranking US official is in visit highlights the "Kashmir issue" internationally"

This is their thinking.

 

[Starlord]

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Dont know who he is and how credible his news are, but It came to my Youtube feed.

 

[Starlord]

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No Idea how credible he is, never seen him on any channel... take it with a bucket of salt.

 

[Lulldapull]

the locals are not going to own up to the attack even if they did it, the Indians already killed 100,000 Kashmiri civilians which is twice the casualties in Gaza

They still blame us for Khalistan and what not. Forget Kashmir for a moment.

We have nothing to do with this event. This is a total false flag.

 

[NGAD IS THE BEST]

Pakistani army does not care for gdp numbers, as long as their budgets remain unaffected.

A small confrontation with India does not affect Pakistani economy And last confrontation with India did wonders for Pakistani armed forces reputation with in Pakistan.

A terrorist attack in Kashmir while a high ranking US official is in visit highlights the "Kashmir issue" internationally"

This is their thinking.

It false flag attack to do propaganda against Pakistan just like Mumbai attacks was your RAW 'S drama

 

[Jaeger]

can you provide source for your claim in the highlighted part?

Watch from 15:30.

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[Starlord]

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I am not going watch full video, plus its a Indian source, any neutral and credible source you can cite?

 

[hussain0216]

True, Indians killed a single crow in Balakot yet their media portrayed it as a massive victory- Indians seem to just lap all the bs up so it could be easier to placate public anger than it may seem.

Realistically the tit-for-tat would not escalate beyond the first few retaliations, neither India nor Pakistan have appetite for Long, drawn out, high tech and intel slugfests

This is true, but India cannot be allowed to act stupid and get away with it

What the Indian do in reality is very little, fire off a missile into a empty field or something BUT CLAIM that they hit some major target

Then a Bollywood narrative is built up over nothing

This puts Pakistan in a tough situation, because in reality whilst India has crossed a line it's done little more then bombed a empty field or something BUT because they are claiming big in the social media mad Indian public mind it's a Indian victory for the ages and films and dramas will be vommited out for decades

This was the same situation in 2019,but Pakistan chose to hit back

That dope abhinandon got caught up in the middle and Pakistan got a massive PR victory in the skirmish


This type of dumbfukkery is not befitting two states

The above is the first time Indians tried this dumbfukkery,
Tried to do something so small as not to antagonise or instigate a Pakistan response
BUT
to the Indian public claim some sort of master stroke immense attack

Where both sets of people are left fighting on social media or did it/did it not happen


We cannot allow the Indians to act stupid, everytime their own policy of pushing hindutva causes anger and instability within india

 

[Jaeger]

It false flag attack to do propaganda against Pakistan just like Mumbai attacks was your RAW 'S drama

Sure ..just like how 9/11 was a drama. a
Abbottabad raid was a drama.

 

[Meengla]

Pakistani army does not care for gdp numbers, as long as their budgets remain unaffected.
A small confrontation with India does not affect Pakistani economy And last confrontation with India did wonders for Pakistani armed forces reputation with in Pakistan.
A terrorist attack in Kashmir while a high ranking US official is in visit highlights the "Kashmir issue" internationally"
This is their thinking.

And you think a high ranking US official who is almost certainly out to sell some expensive toys like F-35 would care for 'the Kashmir Cause'?? Actually, J. D. Vance might care: He'd tell the Indians: 'Look, you have this Pakistan problem. They shot down your fighter jet in 2019. So let's sell you X amount of F-35 for X $billion dollar'.
Do you see what I am saying??
BTW, GDP numbers matter for any country, especially for a very poor country like Pakistan which was literally facing a default barely 2-3 years ago. Pakistan is not Sri Lanka which faced a default and is trying to get back. But then you'd want Pakistan to default, don't you?!!!

 

[LostArrow]

Nothing will happen in the end this isn't 2019 Pakistan anymore and it's by far the most confusing attack ever like the militants who did it ran away? What the hell at least Pakistan manages to kill them if Indian

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Dont know who he is and how credible his news are, but It came to my Youtube feed.

Not so fast . Indian response would be cold and calculated.

 

[gangsta_rap]

Current leadership in Pakistan doesn't have the same guts it did in 2019. If India lashes out there will be a beating and it'll be taken but not handed back in kind.

 

[Jaeger]

And you think a high ranking US official who is almost certainly out to sell some expensive toys like F-35 would care for 'the Kashmir Cause'?? Actually, J. D. Vance might care: He'd tell the Indians: 'Look, you have this Pakistan problem. They shot down your fighter jet in 2019. So let's sell you X amount of F-35 for X $billion dollar'.
Do you see what I am saying??
BTW, GDP numbers matter for any country, especially for a very poor country like Pakistan which was literally facing a default barely 2-3 years ago. Pakistan is not Sri Lanka which faced a default and is trying to get back. But then you'd want Pakistan to default, don't you?!!!

Ad per Pakistani army's flawed logic. What so ever highlights Kashmir internationallly is good for them.

They have operated on this assumption for decades now even went to extent launching a full scale war on this assumption.

 

[FuturePAF]

Agree on some of it. But Attack on civilians, that too after asking identity, this was bellow the belt.

Retaliation should be hugeeee. All international stars are aligned with India.

Attacks on civilians, regardless of where is condemnable. I’m merely commenting on the disparity in global reaction to how this attack, where identity was ascertained before the murders, is very similar to the BLA tactics of killing non-Baluchi.

The reaction is different because India matters more to the world, and that Pakistan having fell behind from parity on a per capita basis, due in large part to its own failings.

Pakistan’s conventional and strategic capabilities force India planners to move more carefully then they would want to; to act like Israel in Syria, but my point is that even this deterrence can’t last with the status quo situation in Pakistan. This has to be a moment for Pakistan to realize its internal situation makes it vulnerable to India adventurism, especially after 2019, when India lost face.