Egyptian Armed Forces

[Sami_1]

I explained to @iblini that KJ-500/KJ-700 are not for export, and China has another latest AEW&C specifically for export. I am not promoting this AEW&C to Egypt.

This AEW&C model appeared at the Zhuhai Air Show, and CETC is saying to other countries: "If you need AEW&C, you can take a look at this latest AEW&C." It is not targeted at any specific country.
This is a kind of stall selling.
If you like it, you can buy it directly.
If you have special requirements, you can put it forward, and we will try our best to meet your requirements.
If you don't like it, you turn around and leave.
That's it.


The relationship between people is mutual, and so is the relationship between countries. It requires the joint efforts of both sides, and it is not a unilateral act.

Regarding the Chinese early warning aircraft, it's natural that the matter depends on the extent to which Egypt's demands are met. The story of what is forbidden or prohibited is relative and not fixed or permanent. This is also what I explained.

Also, relations between countries are based on what are called mutual interests. For example, trade between Egypt and China is not in Egypt's favor. Therefore, China's compensation for this with investments is inevitable, because the continuation of the relationship between the two countries with this trade imbalance is unacceptable.

 

[Sami_1]

own specs like no amraams?

Egypt didn't pay a single dollar for the 240 F-16s it acquired, leveraging its relationship with the United States to obtain what it could obtain for free.

In general, Egypt only previously had to increase its number of MIRAGE-2000 fighters to 60.

Currently, as a result of Egypt's renewed influence in Africa, the collapse of neighboring states, and the spread of Western-backed terrorism, Egypt has decided to expand its acquisition of medium-range Rafale and MIG-29 fighters and heavy SU-35 aircraft, regardless of what is said about Egypt selling them to Algeria and Iran. These are simply not regional matters. Similarly, Egypt's request for initial batches of J-20 fighters is also inconsistent.

Egypt has spent many years researching the production and development of a domestic missile. Recently, China agreed, and India also offered its Astra missile, which will be deployed on all Egyptian fighters, even without the approval of countries like the United States.

Therefore, Egypt's desire to manufacture the PL-15 missile and, indeed, to continuously develop it is driven by several reasons. The low cost of its acquisition, coupled with its high performance, gives Egypt flexibility in covering a portion of its operational needs. It has made huge demands for air-to-air missiles.
Egypt is modernizing the PL-15 missile to match the future American AIM-260 missile, which simply means the effectiveness of Egyptian fighters for the next twenty years.
Egypt has not stopped acquiring more R-77 missiles, even the latest version, the R-77M. The same applies to the expensive French missiles, which are what limits Egypt's ability to acquire more of them. Not French fuel, USA. Israel, for example, will not compensate France for a dollar in exchange for canceling any deals with Egypt.
We used to say that fighters have solutions, such as integrating other munitions. Recently, I have noticed the emergence of what I was saying:


integrating munitions without American approval into F-16 fighters.
Turkish F-16s use tablets to control locally made weapons via the UBAS system. Turkey is using tablet-based systems inside its F-16 fighter jets to operate domestically developed air-to-ground weapons. This represents a new policy for Egypt. Egyptian Mirage fighters have always used American munitions. Egypt obtained South African Tariq bombs from the UAE and integrated them into its F-16, MIRAGE-2000, and MIG-29 fighters. Simply put, the terms of the Egyptian contract allow for the freedom to integrate munitions. This also applies to the Egyptian Rafale. Egypt does not buy from suppliers who refuse. Egypt has been producing various munitions and locally developed bombs with a range of 80 kilometers for years as the main bombs for Egyptian fighters. Some are simply spreading false information about the weak capabilities of Egyptian fighters. The Egyptian side also wants to consolidate these matters only so that it can implement its full armament plans. This is not a cockfight on the internet with some amateurs and children, each of whom is trying to make his country stronger through a series of illusions and lies. The West wants to restrict Egypt's access to weapons because He sees it as more powerful than it should be, and that Egypt is exploiting its capabilities to implement its policies within neighboring countries, thus thwarting Western interests and colonial plans in Libya, Sudan, and Somalia. Egypt also exploits its military capabilities to support countries with alliances in Africa.

The Turks merely confirm what we have been saying for some time, and some have been denying it for the sole purpose of portraying Egypt as less powerful and under American control, while the facts are something else entirely.

Egypt is forcing all arms suppliers to offer their best. We have a simple example: when the South Koreans thought they would impose their conditions for the supply of FA-50 aircraft, they were completely ignored. As a result of the competition, they returned to Egypt with completely different and much lower-priced offers.
Even Macron, when Egypt canceled a deal to purchase 12 Rafale fighter jets, returned to Egypt again to implement a deal for 30 new Rafale aircraft.
What's happening behind the scenes now: Germany and France want to exploit Egypt's military-industrial base. Egypt has a huge tank factory that can produce up to 500 main battle tanks annually, or a mix of various armored vehicles in larger numbers, for example. Therefore, they want Egypt to provide them with the manufacturing of components and some products through Egyptian production lines.
In other words, some are simply building an idea based on what is already there. Advertiser

 

[Flotilla]

Egypt didn't pay a single dollar for the 240 F-16s it acquired, leveraging its relationship with the United States to obtain what it could obtain for free.

This is undirectly in proportion to freedom or sovereignty in integration of other weaponry or indigenized armament.

Please be serious. They´re sustaining Al Sisi because they´re paying for Israel security. Instead of bragging about how cheap your F16 have been adquired you should talk about how to use them for defending Egypt frontiers from Israel.

Everybody can use a free fall bomb into a fighter, a glide bomb or even a cruise missile. You can see daily in ukraine with Su24 and their SCALP missiles.

But that is not integration. Integration means to carry, program, use the seekers of the plane over the missile, change the waypoints, control the weapon during flight and even cancel the attack during all fly path.

Using pictures of TAI F16s launching cruise bombs doesn´t make egyptian F16s a turkish class F16. And using Su27 pictures over ukranian territory doesn´t mean that your F16s have been ripped to carry and use other indigenous weaponry. Let´s be serious.

 

[Ak01]

This is undirectly in proportion to freedom or sovereignty in integration of other weaponry or indigenized armament.

Please be serious. They´re sustaining Al Sisi because they´re paying for Israel security. Instead of bragging about how cheap your F16 have been adquired you should talk about how to use them for defending Egypt frontiers from Israel.

Everybody can use a free fall bomb into a fighter, a glide bomb or even a cruise missile. You can see daily in ukraine with Su24 and their SCALP missiles.

But that is not integration. Integration means to carry, program, use the seekers of the plane over the missile, change the waypoints, control the weapon during flight and even cancel the attack during all fly path.

Using pictures of TAI F16s launching cruise bombs doesn´t make egyptian F16s a turkish class F16. And using Su27 pictures over ukranian territory doesn´t mean that your F16s have been ripped to carry and use other indigenous weaponry. Let´s be serious.

Its also laughable, thay egypt, whos been relegated to producing old soviet weapons is now able to "further develop the PL-15 to match the AIM-260", i dont think there is a single example of egypt ever even having any domestic solid fuelled weapons, let alone "modernising" the PL-15.

As you said, dropping SOM is meaningless, these missiles are programmed from the ground, all UBAS does is effectively give the operator some missile parameters on a tablet and also allows them to control an ejector rail. Theres no comms with the plane, if anything, the F-16's probably recognise them as a MK82 or something.

 

[Sami_1]

This is undirectly in proportion to freedom or sovereignty in integration of other weaponry or indigenized armament.

Please be serious. They´re sustaining Al Sisi because they´re paying for Israel security. Instead of bragging about how cheap your F16 have been adquired you should talk about how to use them for defending Egypt frontiers from Israel.

Everybody can use a free fall bomb into a fighter, a glide bomb or even a cruise missile. You can see daily in ukraine with Su24 and their SCALP missiles.

But that is not integration. Integration means to carry, program, use the seekers of the plane over the missile, change the waypoints, control the weapon during flight and even cancel the attack during all fly path.

Using pictures of TAI F16s launching cruise bombs doesn´t make egyptian F16s a turkish class F16. And using Su27 pictures over ukranian territory doesn´t mean that your F16s have been ripped to carry and use other indigenous weaponry. Let´s be serious.

The problem with many of you is that you are affiliated with the Islamic State, the Muslim Brotherhood, a colonial creation designed to destroy Islamic countries. You have always been enemies of all Egyptian rulers, as long as there is no Brotherhood dog ruling Egypt. Therefore, you always present yourselves with a policy of treason against others. We do not justify to you our ability to use our resources, and everything we obtain is used to increase the Egyptian military's combat capabilities. You are extremely naive. Egypt already possesses the most powerful air force in the Middle East and Africa. It possesses a unique mix of diverse fighters, including upgraded MIG-29 fighters, with an initial batch of 50 aircraft, and an advanced AESA radar with a range of 280 kilometers for a target with a radar cross-section of 5 meters, and a variety of ammunition packages. Egypt may have contracted for another batch. Egypt possesses the best European fighter, the Rafale, with 54 aircraft. It is not interested in upgrading its aging fleet of F-16s, like some countries unable to acquire other fighters. Egypt's approach to a country like China has resulted in obtaining more. As for our fighters, we have our own armament policy, including developing outdated weapons with limited resources, as the priority is for new ones. The introduction of a light aircraft like the FA-50 as an advanced training aircraft is a form of strength for the Egyptian Air Force. Even old aircraft like the L-59 are being developed by Egypt to a higher level than the L-159. We are making the best use of our resources. As for the story of treason, the Muslim Brotherhood are allies of America and Israel, and they have brought nothing but destruction and devastation to their countries. We have examples in occupied Syria from Turkey and Israel, and in Libya, where Prime Minister Dabaiba has become openly allied with Israel. We have found no one more blatant than the political Islam group that betrays and accuses Muslims of blasphemy and secretly allies with the Jews. Your level of intelligence is nonexistent. Why does Israel only fear Egypt in the Islamic world, and why does it only cry out against Egypt? Because it is simply the enemy that will ultimately be damned, according to their books, and they use you only as a tool to divide peoples. It is not normal for an idiot, stupid, and ignorant person to come to us. My brothers, we are accused of treason, all because they are from a Zionist Masonic group that claims to be Islamic. We have not seen from them any Islam, nor Sharf, nor religion, nor dignity, except as a tool to reach power and claim that they are the pure and the Muslim community, while they themselves are defeated, admitting that they are brothers to Muslims. That is why “brothers” in the Quran are mentioned in only two places: “brothers of the devils” and “brothers of Lot.” Do you have the right to accuse and demonize others because you are the devils and traitors? Why have we not seen from you a Muslim or a noble person? You are only hostile to Muslims to reach the systems of government, while you are failures and forbidden, and you declare infidels and kill by claiming that Islam is your exclusive right. You have tired us out with your ignorance, stupidity, hatred, and immorality in your hostility.

 

[Sami_1]

Its also laughable, thay egypt, whos been relegated to producing old soviet weapons is now able to "further develop the PL-15 to match the AIM-260", i dont think there is a single example of egypt ever even having any domestic solid fuelled weapons, let alone "modernising" the PL-15.

As you said, dropping SOM is meaningless, these missiles are programmed from the ground, all UBAS does is effectively give the operator some missile parameters on a tablet and also allows them to control an ejector rail. Theres no comms with the plane, if anything, the F-16's probably recognise them as a MK82 or something.

It's clear that your mind is limited, and so is your thinking. Simply put, Egypt is obligated to submit a report to you, or, like a young child, about the type of Egypt or the extent of its development. Egypt does not possess or manufacture old Soviet weapons. Why do you ignore the fact that Egyptians also manufactured the most modern weapons before people like you were born or your country even dreamed? Egypt manufactured spare parts and components for the MIRAGE-2000, and since the 1980s, it has been producing French MAGIC-2 missiles for the Mirage fleet and its aircraft. It was assembling 5,000 AIM-9M missiles in the 1980s to arm 475 MIG-21 fighters and its fighter fleet. The same applies to the Fajet aircraft, which was produced in Egypt before your country even had dreams of manufacturing aircraft. Even when Egypt produced a modest-performance aircraft like the K-8E, it carried out successive series of upgrades and developments, whether for the first or second production batch or even the mid-life upgrade. The F-16 fighters were received from the United States and then returned to the aircraft factory in Helwan for local upgrades. Even arms purchases from France, Italy, and Germany include Egyptian demands for the transfer of specific technologies. Egypt has used many front countries to transfer technologies to Egypt, such as Turkey, Greece, and the United Arab Emirates.

The fact that Egypt does not advertise its weapons does not mean that it does not develop or produce. It has been interested in developing its capabilities locally for the benefit of its army. Currently, its influence is expanding, so it has begun marketing some of its products.

Who told you that we do not produce modern weapons, including missiles in all fields, with China? The CM-302 missile is for the Egyptian coastal defense. DW announced a few days ago that Egypt is manufacturing parts of the IRIST-SLM system for Egypt and even for German exports to European countries. Egypt has become part of the supply chain for parts of foreign weapons, such as the Rafale fighter jet and German systems.

You don't understand anything. Egypt requested the production of Chinese PL-15 missiles, and this was announced on the Tatical Report website, for a very simple reason: Egypt wants to replace a large number of outdated missiles, such as 1,300 AIM-7 missiles and 200 Matra Super missiles. 530
In addition to the demands for massive numbers to counter the increasing use of drones, we are not naive enough to launch a $1 million AMRAAM missile to shoot down a drone whose price is less than the missile's.
Egypt is simply looking for economic feasibility and the quantity of weapons.
Countries agree to transfer technology as long as the demand is high. Even local production lines cannot meet all markets simultaneously. For example, Egypt's demand for the Wing Loong family of aircraft is large, while the production line of a single Chinese factory produces 200 aircraft annually. This makes China prefer that countries produce their own equipment under license to meet the global market needs.

The Russians themselves, at the beginning of the era of cooperation, in late 2013, announced that they were offering Egypt the production of new weapons and joint development. Egypt did not provide funding, and when Egyptian purchases increased, two industrial zones were established, including Russian arms factories in Egypt for export.
The Egyptian military industry is not the government-owned factories that the media focuses on. We have various companies, such as Amiston, which has 13 factories inside and outside Egypt, and companies that produce. Guided munitions. Two short-range, low-weight, long-range missiles were announced, such as an 80-kilometer, 60-kilogram missile and a 40-kilogram, 30-kilogram missile. These are tactical missiles, indicating that Egypt has only the latest in technology. Even Serbia announced that Egypt has cooperation programs in guided missiles, and even when Egypt produces weapons under license, its capabilities are multiplied several times. For example, Serbian suicide drones, whose range has been extended, have become even more so. Even light weapons, such as the Egyptian-made NOVA missile, have a range several times that of the Serbian one. Being ignorant and unaware is your problem.

It's funny that you're mocking, even though your country has nothing comparable or competitive.

When we gave the example of Turkey only as a point of proof that what we were saying is being implemented and implemented by other countries, you moved from that point to another. Your psychological problem, or your mind, doesn't understand, is that Egypt cares more about ballistic missiles than anti-tank missiles. Even its products are different from Korean ones. And the Chinese simply because we know from the beginning the capabilities of ballistic missiles, so Egypt is interested in higher performance and effectiveness and integrating technologies from different countries, and we do not shout at every weapon shot produced in Egypt. If the backward countries have begun to produce guided missiles, then does Egypt not develop and produce, and it announced since 2021 that it has developed a package of missiles and directed ammunition to meet the needs of the Egyptian Air Force, since Egypt is a country that cooperates with countries such as Pakistan, Iran and Turkey, not because it is the best, but only to reduce the cost of huge armies. It wants a low cost for armament, and cooperation with other countries to reduce the cost is vital because your requirements are enormous. Should we teach every little child who mocks, as long as he is ignorant or claims to be knowledgeable or classifies a country as nothing and has no value or opinion, which is useless because it is the work of children who only plot?

 

[Ak01]

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It's clear that your mind is limited, and so is your thinking. Simply put, Egypt is obligated to submit a report to you, or, like a young child, about the type of Egypt or the extent of its development. Egypt does not possess or manufacture old Soviet weapons. Why do you ignore the fact that Egyptians also manufactured the most modern weapons before people like you were born or your country even dreamed? Egypt manufactured spare parts and components for the MIRAGE-2000, and since the 1980s,

Grape, egypt was doing what everyone else does! welcome to the leagues of...literally anyone doing local MRO! Congratulations...i guess?

it has been producing French MAGIC-2 missiles for the Mirage fleet and its aircraft. It was assembling 5,000 AIM-9M missiles in the 1980s to arm 475 MIG-21 fighters and its fighter fleet.

"producing" is a very funny way to put assembling locally with *some* local components. Assembling mostly imported components. Was the aim9 production facility up your backside? Because US FMS sales completely disprove your argument.

The same applies to the Fajet aircraft, which was produced in Egypt before your country even had dreams of manufacturing aircraft.

if this is a reference to the HA-300, you should also mention that your contribution was just buying the project out from spain then killing it off. Lol.

Even when Egypt produced a modest-performance aircraft like the K-8E, it carried out successive series of upgrades and developments, whether for the first or second production batch or even the mid-life upgrade. The F-16 fighters were received from the United States and then returned to the aircraft factory in Helwan for local upgrades.

These "local upgrades" are US supervised, sustainment programs. Lifex and some minor modifications to support some new systems. Again, nothing like you're making it out to be lol

Even arms purchases from France, Italy, and Germany include Egyptian demands for the transfer of specific technologies. Egypt has used many front countries to transfer technologies to Egypt, such as Turkey, Greece, and the United Arab Emirates.

deluded

The fact that Egypt does not advertise its weapons does not mean that it does not develop or produce. It has been interested in developing its capabilities locally for the benefit of its army. Currently, its influence is expanding, so it has begun marketing some of its products.

you're right, egypt doesnt advertise anything, instead we should listen to sami_1 make claims and talk out of his arse

Who told you that we do not produce modern weapons, including missiles in all fields, with China? The CM-302 missile is for the Egyptian coastal defense. DW announced a few days ago that Egypt is manufacturing parts of the IRIST-SLM system for Egypt and even for German exports to European countries. Egypt has become part of the supply chain for parts of foreign weapons, such as the Rafale fighter jet and German systems.

Literally lying straight through your teeth. Where is this article (it doesnt exist lol). No egyptian parts are in the Iris T. The rafale, yes, as part of an offset, dassault has some components being machined in Egypt- this isnt the feat you're making it out to be.

Not sure why you're mentioning CM-302 when egypt does not operate it...

You don't understand anything. Egypt requested the production of Chinese PL-15 missiles, and this was announced on the Tatical Report website, for a very simple reason: Egypt wants to replace a large number of outdated missiles, such as 1,300 AIM-7 missiles and 200 Matra Super missiles. 530
In addition to the demands for massive numbers to counter the increasing use of drones, we are not naive enough to launch a $1 million AMRAAM missile to shoot down a drone whose price is less than the missile's.

Hmm lets use our brains for a second.
Egypt wants to replace 1500 western missiles, being used on western origin aircraft, with Chinese ones?

Do you see any issues here?
Also, im not sure why you think the PL-15 will cost you pennies, because it wont...

Egypt is simply looking for economic feasibility and the quantity of weapons.
Countries agree to transfer technology as long as the demand is high. Even local production lines cannot meet all markets simultaneously. For example, Egypt's demand for the Wing Loong family of aircraft is large, while the production line of a single Chinese factory produces 200 aircraft annually. This makes China prefer that countries produce their own equipment under license to meet the global market needs.

The Russians themselves, at the beginning of the era of cooperation, in late 2013, announced that they were offering Egypt the production of new weapons and joint development. Egypt did not provide funding, and when Egyptian purchases increased, two industrial zones were established, including Russian arms factories in Egypt for export.

Because Russian industries are dying. I cannot off the top of my head think of a modern russian system that isnt derived from a soviet one. Russia needs money, they will do whatever they can to get money. MiG needed Egypt, becase nobody else was dumb enough to place orders for their aircraft in the modern era.

The Egyptian military industry is not the government-owned factories that the media focuses on. We have various companies, such as Amiston, which has 13 factories inside and outside Egypt, and companies that produce. Guided munitions. Two short-range, low-weight, long-range missiles were announced, such as an 80-kilometer, 60-kilogram missile and a 40-kilogram, 30-kilogram missile.

Oh give it a break, there are many companies like Amstone lol who put out fancy mockups and cant deliver shit. Their website tells you everything you need to know- tall claims, but no substance. What was the largest order allocated to them?

These are tactical missiles, indicating that Egypt has only the latest in technology. Even Serbia announced that Egypt has cooperation programs in guided missiles, and even when Egypt produces weapons under license, its capabilities are multiplied several times. For example, Serbian suicide drones, whose range has been extended, have become even more so. Even light weapons, such as the Egyptian-made NOVA missile, have a range several times that of the Serbian one. Being ignorant and unaware is your problem.

It's funny that you're mocking, even though your country has nothing comparable or competitive.

You're right, i so desperately wish Pakistan was carrying out local MRO of equiptment, local assembly of missiles and producing components to support local MRO. What will we do! We all aspire to be as advanced as Egypt's defense industry one day. It would be so good if we could make dummy mockups of projects that will never happen one day, just like Egypt!

When we gave the example of Turkey only as a point of proof that what we were saying is being implemented and implemented by other countries, you moved from that point to another. Your psychological problem, or your mind, doesn't understand, is that Egypt cares more about ballistic missiles than anti-tank missiles.

Yes, these are the super duper modern wunderweapons youre producing with the help of North Korea. Scud derivatives. Great. Wish we could be you!

Even its products are different from Korean ones. And the Chinese simply because we know from the beginning the capabilities of ballistic missiles, so Egypt is interested in higher performance and effectiveness and integrating technologies from different countries, and we do not shout at every weapon shot produced in Egypt. If the backward countries have begun to produce guided missiles, then does Egypt not develop and produce, and it announced since 2021 that it has developed a package of missiles and directed ammunition to meet the needs of the Egyptian Air Force, since Egypt is a country that cooperates with countries such as Pakistan, Iran and Turkey, not because it is the best, but only to reduce the cost of huge armies. It wants a low cost for armament, and cooperation with other countries to reduce the cost is vital because your requirements are enormous. Should we teach every little child who mocks, as long as he is ignorant or claims to be knowledgeable or classifies a country as nothing and has no value or opinion, which is useless because it is the work of children who only plot?

all of this is just bullshit, do flex on us the dumb bombs ypu're producing to meet the needs of the EAF. We're all thrilled and on the edge of our seats.

You're probably as deluded as the Indians. Saar, america give us 230 f-16's for freeeeeeee!

Sitting ducks. All waiting to be picked apart by the Israelis. But hey, free f-16s right

 

[Flotilla]

The problem with many of you is that you are affiliated with the Islamic State, the Muslim Brotherhood, a colonial creation designed to destroy Islamic countries. You have always been enemies of all Egyptian rulers, as long as there is no Brotherhood dog ruling Egypt. Therefore, you always present yourselves with a policy of treason against others. We do not justify to you our ability to use our resources, and everything we obtain is used to increase the Egyptian military's combat capabilities. You are extremely naive. Egypt already possesses the most powerful air force in the Middle East and Africa. It possesses a unique mix of diverse fighters, including upgraded MIG-29 fighters, with an initial batch of 50 aircraft, and an advanced AESA radar with a range of 280 kilometers for a target with a radar cross-section of 5 meters, and a variety of ammunition packages. Egypt may have contracted for another batch. Egypt possesses the best European fighter, the Rafale, with 54 aircraft. It is not interested in upgrading its aging fleet of F-16s, like some countries unable to acquire other fighters. Egypt's approach to a country like China has resulted in obtaining more. As for our fighters, we have our own armament policy, including developing outdated weapons with limited resources, as the priority is for new ones. The introduction of a light aircraft like the FA-50 as an advanced training aircraft is a form of strength for the Egyptian Air Force. Even old aircraft like the L-59 are being developed by Egypt to a higher level than the L-159. We are making the best use of our resources. As for the story of treason, the Muslim Brotherhood are allies of America and Israel, and they have brought nothing but destruction and devastation to their countries. We have examples in occupied Syria from Turkey and Israel, and in Libya, where Prime Minister Dabaiba has become openly allied with Israel. We have found no one more blatant than the political Islam group that betrays and accuses Muslims of blasphemy and secretly allies with the Jews. Your level of intelligence is nonexistent. Why does Israel only fear Egypt in the Islamic world, and why does it only cry out against Egypt? Because it is simply the enemy that will ultimately be damned, according to their books, and they use you only as a tool to divide peoples. It is not normal for an idiot, stupid, and ignorant person to come to us. My brothers, we are accused of treason, all because they are from a Zionist Masonic group that claims to be Islamic. We have not seen from them any Islam, nor Sharf, nor religion, nor dignity, except as a tool to reach power and claim that they are the pure and the Muslim community, while they themselves are defeated, admitting that they are brothers to Muslims. That is why “brothers” in the Quran are mentioned in only two places: “brothers of the devils” and “brothers of Lot.” Do you have the right to accuse and demonize others because you are the devils and traitors? Why have we not seen from you a Muslim or a noble person? You are only hostile to Muslims to reach the systems of government, while you are failures and forbidden, and you declare infidels and kill by claiming that Islam is your exclusive right. You have tired us out with your ignorance, stupidity, hatred, and immorality in your hostility.

You're completely wrong about this. I appreciate your country and wish Egypt the best. Moreover I think Egypt is doing good right now. Purchasing Rafales and even J10s It is more than reasonable. It is a must for achieving sovereignity.
But making up your F16s fleet and claiming technological achievements over them without further proofs are not enough.
Really love Egypt and hope Egypt Air force can work together with Turkish. Your country have all out back to get the best and help to finish this madness.

 

[The SC]

Its also laughable, thay egypt, whos been relegated to producing old soviet weapons is now able to "further develop the PL-15 to match the AIM-260", i dont think there is a single example of egypt ever even having any domestic solid fuelled weapons, let alone "modernising" the PL-15.

As you said, dropping SOM is meaningless, these missiles are programmed from the ground, all UBAS does is effectively give the operator some missile parameters on a tablet and also allows them to control an ejector rail. Theres no comms with the plane, if anything, the F-16's probably recognise them as a MK82 or something.

Solid fuelled weapons!?

You should read about Egyptian Ballistic Missiles..

Example: The Condor-II/Badr-2000 was a solid-fuel, two-stage missile designed to fly 800-1,200 kilometers with a 500-kilogram payload. ...

 

[Oublious]

lol

The guy talks like that Tablet was easy done , behind that tablet ther is serious 20 years R&D behind it. And that is only max for the the block50/52+ only. Above is different mission computer what will need another kind software. He is going to fire PL-15 from F16? Good luck....

 

[Ramses Akhenaten Ahmose]

Only the block 52 variants of the f16s are worth keeping and even then they’ll be relegated to multirole platform duties. Egypt would sell its block 40s for money to further pursue its weapon ambitions of its own but could potentially be cut off by the US if they see the Chinese weapons deals get out of hand from their perspective. In order to sell American weapons and equipment you need permission from the maker/seller to do so. America could deny Egypts opportunity to sell those f-16s so that cash ain’t used for j10/j35 procurement.

But then again, with trump as us president, who’s all about the money first and foremost, it’s not too out of the ordinary for him to let Egypt sell American made weapons to allied nations in the Middle East to potentially counter Iran. That way from the American perspective, it shifts away the f-16s from Israel, but is really just helping Egypt cleaning house of old equipment, which Israel will def be mindful about. On the other hand, having nations like uae, Qatar, Bahrain, Kuwait etc, form a wall of falcons against Iran would be beneficial from americas perspective.

Heck Egypt was being begged by USA to sell its soviet stockpiles of equipment to the Ukrainian armed forces in return for a “generous” amount of money and advanced weapons access. Which clearly, they didn’t buy into. Maybe if they move right they would allow sales of older f-16s to Ukraine's air force, but Egypt would phone the Russians about them immediately.

Otherwise if all avenues are not allowed or feasible, they’ll just cannibalize them for spare parts and move on

 

[The SC]

own specs like no amraams?

I said ask Russia.. but you go to the US.. it is clear you want to demean Egypt..

Anyways..both Russia and China have "Adapters" to use their missiles on Western fighter planes..Like the F-16.. Egypt won't announce it has them till a war is declared..

You can see an example of Western adapters on Ukraine Russian planes to use Western missiles..Both China and Russia have preceded them in Adapters..

 

[Ak01]

I said ask Russia.. but you go to the US.. it is clear you want to demean Egypt..

Anyways..both Russia and China have "Adapters" to use their missiles on Western fighter planes..Like the F-16.. Egypt won't announce it has them till a war is declared..

You can see an example of Western adapters on Ukraine Russian planes to use Western missiles..Both China and Russia have preceded them in Adapters..

ask iran how this worked out with r27s on tomcats.

bvraams dont work in the same way as the other solutions you're quoting.

 

[The SC]

ask iran how this worked out with r27s on tomcats.

bvraams dont work in the same way as the other solutions you're quoting.

Iran did not need r27s on their F-14 Tomcats they made a version of the AIM-54 Phoenix because they had all the specs.. it is called Fakour-90 long range air to air missile..



And when Egypt got the F-16..it was the US standard with everything.. till AMRAMs came to the scene!

 

[Ak01]

Iran did not need r27s on their F-14 Tomcats they made a version of the AIM-54 Phoenix because they had all the specs.. it is called Fakour-90 long range air to air missile..

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And when Egypt got the F-16..it was the US standard with everything.. till AMRAMs came to the scene!

do you know why this didnt work?
They clearly needed it, which is why they tried to do it...

if you think egypt, with some magic adapter will allow f-16s to fire pl-15's, i have a bridge to sell u