Iranian Chill Thread

[Persian Gulf]

Iran will give a strong response to any US move against Iran

US didn't even move yet and Iran already backed down and ordered Iraqi Resistance to publicly promise not to attack US bases any more. every time I think IRI cannot be any more afraid of war with Israel or USA they surprise me

 

[F-22Raptor]

US didn't even move yet and Iran already backed down and ordered Iraqi Resistance to publicly promise not to attack US bases any more. every time I think IRI cannot be any more afraid of war with Israel or USA they surprise me

Because no one wants a part of the US military. Everyone has seen the effectiveness of US weapons in Ukraine. Thousands upon thousands of weapons flying into Rzeszow Poland and rolling into Ukraine and Russias refusal to attack that airport. The Russians know exactly what would happen if they crossed that line.

Now it’s no different with Iran. Iran pushes those lines in the Middle East, but they know what happens when they cross it.

 

[Persian Gulf]

And therein lies the hypocrisy and double standards of people like you. You were one of the first to cry foul when Iran launched missiles into Pakistan, but now seem to expect Iran to tolerate it if another country attacks Iranian soil.

Where did he say Iran should tolerate an attack on its soil? I think you are attacking his quite unfairly and not understanding what he is trying to say.

 

[Persian Gulf]

Because no one wants a part of the US military. Everyone has seen the effectiveness of US weapons in Ukraine. Thousands upon thousands of weapons flying into Rzeszow Poland and rolling into Ukraine and Russias refusal to attack that airport. The Russians know exactly what would happen if they crossed that line.

Now it’s no different with Iran. Iran pushes those lines in the Middle East, but they know what happens when they cross it.

well I don't agree about the claimed super effectiveness of US weapons in Ukraine but the rest is mostly true, Iran obviously doesn't want war with the USA because that would be extremely stupid and set Iran back 30 years (total war / occupation scenario)

 

[F-22Raptor]

well I don't agree about the claimed super effectiveness of US weapons in Ukraine but the rest is mostly true, Iran obviously doesn't want war with the USA because that would be extremely stupid and set Iran back 30 years (total war / occupation scenario)

Javelins, M777s, HIMARS, Patriot, Bradley’s….all have been stars on the battlefield. Let’s not pretend the Russian Army hasn’t been decimated and their Air and Naval forces haven’t taken embarrassing losses. And Ukraine has minimal air and naval capability.

The hundreds of equipment losses the Russians are taking per month in Ukraine, the US would inflict in days. The US can put immensely more effects on targets than Ukraine can ever hope to achieve.

Iran wants no part

 

[mangekyo]

US didn't even move yet and Iran already backed down and ordered Iraqi Resistance to publicly promise not to attack US bases any more. every time I think IRI cannot be any more afraid of war with Israel or USA they surprise me

The whole situation reminds me of that time we struck an American base, but made sure to warn them before hand so that no Americans died.

If the announcement really came from the resistance, it shows that unlike Soleimani, Ghani has no control over them and they don't respect him and IRI. It's really ugly you know. The Iraqis are ordered to strike American bases, but they are not allowed to kill any Americans, meanwhile the Americans are allowed to kill as many Iraqis as they like.

 

[Persian Gulf]

The whole situation reminds me of that time we struck an American base, but made sure to warn them before hand so that no Americans died.

If the announcement really came from the resistance, it shows that unlike Soleimani, Ghani has no control over them and they don't respect him and IRI. It's really ugly you know. The Iraqis are ordered to strike American bases, but they are not allowed to kill any Americans, meanwhile the Americans are allowed to kill as many Iraqis as they like.

I think iran forced them to make the statement. they complied, so they are still fully under 'control'. I can't speak to how happy they were about it or their respect for IRGC but I don't think they lost any respect, they should understand Iran is a state and has more to lose and if Iran falls they all fall too

 

[mangekyo]

I think iran forced them to make the statement. they complied, so they are still fully under 'control'. I can't speak to how happy they were about it or their respect for IRGC but I don't think they lost any respect, they should understand Iran is a state and has more to lose and if Iran falls they all fall too

I agree that they should. But the question is for how long will they? You have to consider that these people have lost their state, a lot of family and friends. How long will they respect and follow Irans "risk your life, but don't kill any Americans policy?"

 

[Persian Gulf]

I agree that they should. But the question is for how long will they? You have to consider that these people have lost their state, a lot of family and friends. How long will they respect and follow Irans "risk your life, but don't kill any Americans policy?"

I guess for as long as they remain funded and armed by iran, they will not have any choice

and right now probably some of them agree that taking this step is helpful to reduce some casualties from the US response, so it benefits them as well

 

[Tehrani021]

Where did he say Iran should tolerate an attack on its soil? I think you are attacking his quite unfairly and not understanding what he is trying to say.

I felt like he was implying that an appropriate response meant that Iran should tolerate it and draw a line under it. And I was explaining, I feel correctly, that it would not be appropriate and it would be double standards. If that's not what he meant then so be it.

 

[Tehrani021]

US didn't even move yet and Iran already backed down and ordered Iraqi Resistance to publicly promise not to attack US bases any more. every time I think IRI cannot be any more afraid of war with Israel or USA they surprise me

War with US isn't some walk in the park and we don't know what was said behind closed doors. Let's not mistake wisdom for weakness, because that's not befitting for someone who has love for Iran.

 

[Tehrani021]

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IRI blinked first (as usual), and US didn't even do anything yet

attacking MV Behshad would be a clever move, I doubt IRI would respond to it in any real way (still waiting for our response to Israel killing 5 senior IRGC intelligence officers in Damascus a week ago)

Remember we went from US striking Iranian territory to now US resorting to tone down its rhetoric for a direct conflict with Iran and talk of only targetting sites in Iraq and Syria. I think there is clear give and take in all of this, considering Iran doesn't have an airforce or nuclear detterance then Iran has done well. Were you expecting WW3?

 

[Persian Gulf]

Remember we went from US striking Iranian territory to now US resorting to tone down its rhetoric for a direct conflict with Iran and talk of only targetting sites in Iraq and Syria. I think there is clear give and take in all of this, considering Iran doesn't have an airforce or nuclear detterance then Iran has done well. Were you expecting WW3?

the US was never going to strike Iranian territory and no I wasn't expecting WW3. On Sunday I said this (this was the consensus view by the way, it's not like everyone was expecting the USA to strike Iranian territory other than the same crew of war hungry Republicans)

 

[Tehrani021]

the US was never going to strike Iranian territory and no I wasn't expecting WW3. On Sunday I said this (this was the consensus view by the way, it's not like everyone was expecting the USA to strike Iranian territory other than the same crew of war hungry Republicans)

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Well if the leaked stuff was true, they did have a strike on IRGC naval bases and ships as an option which would be tantamount to an attack on Iran. I'm sure striking Iranian territory was also discussed hence why Iran had to tell US via back channels any attack on Iranian territory, with or without casualities, would be responded to. I think most people here, except for yourself and few Iranians were expecting as some kind of responce on territory. I'm just a bit perplexed why you think Iran has stooped low or blinked first, what would you have done if you were Iran?

 

[Persian Gulf]

Well if the leaked stuff was true, they did have a strike on IRGC naval bases and ships as an option which would be tantamount to an attack on Iran. I'm sure striking Iranian territory was also discussed hence why Iran had to tell US via back channels any attack on Iranian territory, with or without casualities, would be responded to. I think most people here, except for yourself and few Iranians were expecting as some kind of responce on territory. I'm just a bit perplexed why you think Iran has stooped low or blinked first, what would you have done if you were Iran?

let's not believe every 'leaked' news that talks about any possible option

Hajizadeh said Iran discussed 14 options in response to assassination of Soleimani and Iran chose the most conservative one

ordering Iraqi Resistance to publicly promise not to attack US forces again and not to even respond to US attacks against them, shows Iran was very concerned about the US response and acted accordingly to help USA save face