Indian false flag and current Indo-Pak stand-off updates

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The Indian huffing and puffing got a smackdown from the global powers so now the damage control spin begins.
Huffing and puffing is done for posturing and is done by everyone. There isn’t anything wrong in that.
Even Pakistani politicians as well as Generals have been doing the same and making bigger claims.
The saner ones know the reality and stay quite.
 
“I can go to jail, but I will not return to Pakistan,” says a Pakistani Muslim woman who married an Indian man—not someone from a wealthy Hindu or Sikh family, but a Muslim auto-rickshaw driver. Her choice highlights how much better the quality of life is in India compared to Pakistan, even for the poor.


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Many have families across the border and possibly marry, but this doesn't mean the quality of life for a rickshaw driver in India is better.

The most enjoyable part is reading the comments, whereas you Sanghi are more focused on her having eight children who will then multiply and make India a Muslim country, you people are some A-class demented f_cks.
 
Shanti om shanti om...... don't let the demons of Pakistan torture your soul.

Let them be afraid of a demon called Pakistan, just as Roman mothers put their kids to sleep by telling them if they don't sleep, Hannibal will come and get them, so to Pakistanis will come and get them, let them have sleepless nights.
 
Huffing and puffing is done for posturing and is done by everyone. There isn’t anything wrong in that.
Even Pakistani politicians as well as Generals have been doing the same and making bigger claims.
The saner ones know the reality and stay quite.

Pakistani establishment only huffs and puffs against Afghanistan, then does mostly nothing.

When a terrorist attack happens in Pakistan, they blame India but don't even dare to huff and puff -- they just send some dossier to the UN where it gets filed in a dusty basement and ignored. Then they carry on with their top priority of looting the country.
 
Many have families across the border and possibly marry, but this doesn't mean the quality of life for a rickshaw driver in India is better.

The most enjoyable part is reading the comments, whereas you Sanghi are more focused on her having eight children who will then multiply and make India a Muslim country, you people are some A-class demented f_cks.
This moron can not comprehend that she just do not want to be separated from her husband or he is even bigger moron that he knows it but never the less use it for his idiotic propaganda.
 
This moron can not comprehend that she just do not want to be separated from her husband or he is even bigger moron that he knows it but never the less use it for his idiotic propaganda.

It's more of the latter to use as propaganda. I'm sure he knows, but his shit-for-brain matter naturally makes him and his kind twist things.
 
Pakistani establishment only huffs and puffs against Afghanistan, then does mostly nothing.

When a terrorist attack happens in Pakistan, they blame India but don't even dare to huff and puff -- they just send some dossier to the UN where it gets filed in a dusty basement and ignored. Then they carry on with their top priority of looting the country.
Are you talking to your drinking buddy bro ?
 
“I can go to jail, but I will not return to Pakistan,” says a Pakistani Muslim woman who married an Indian man—not someone from a wealthy Hindu or Sikh family, but a Muslim auto-rickshaw driver. Her choice highlights how much better the quality of life is in India compared to Pakistan, even for the poor.


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Did you forget to mention in your executive summary that she has kids and doesn't want to be separated totally from her kids?

In an Indian jail, she gets to see and even interact with her husband and kids periodically. In Pakistan, she cannot.

Her response to the question is one that is expected of a good mother.

It is laughable that you claim quality of life in Pakistan is even slightly worse than that in India, and then go on to use this flawed example as evidence. You may as well have held up an AMRAAM fragment for the cameras.
 
M.K Bhadrakumar

What a chronicle of wasted time India and Pakistan are presenting! One had thought that the ‘peace dividend’ of the war in Afghanistan should do a world of good for India-Pakistan relations. But the opposite has happened. If the two countries are incapable of living in amity even after decades, why not seek the help of friendly countries to promote reconciliation? There is nothing obnoxious about it.

Some hard lessons need to be drawn. First and foremost, the raison d’être of India’s diplomacy in Kabul should be firmly and exclusively anchored on a bilateral grid of mutual benefit and mutual respect pivoting on friendship at people-to-people level. The temptation to reduce the Indo-Afghan cooperation as a ‘second front’ against Pakistan will always be there so long as Delhi harbours an adversarial mindset toward Islamabad, but we should be abundantly cautious not to create misperceptions in the Pakistani mind and end up adding yet another dimension to the boiling cauldron of existing differences, disputes and discords. The point is, the break-up in 1971 is a searing memory still in the Pakistani psyche, which it can only exorcise with some Indian help and understanding.

This calls for a deliberately passive diplomacy strategy to adapt to partner needs of Afghan friends while safeguarding India’s interests in the region. To my mind, the main platform must be in economic terms. Indians are agile enough to prepare such a precise and systematic strategy.

Second, the present crisis has exposed that while the world opinion is supportive of India’s concerns over terrorism, it is not inclined to put the entire blame on Pakistan, as some of us would have probably liked. Put differently, the world opinion also empathises with Pakistan as a victim of terrorism. Terrorism poses an existential threat to Pakistan manifold in gravity compared to what India faces. And something of the Pakistani allegations with regard to an ‘Indian hand’ may have come to stick in the world opinion even if not audible.

Third, most important, taking the above factors into account, the law of diminishing returns is at work in our decade-old strategy to slam the door shut on Pakistan, refuse to talk to Pakistan, spurn their overtures for dialogue. If the US can bring itself to have dialogue with Russia and Iran (or, conceivably, with North Korea in a near future) despite the backlog of very hostile relationships, we need to sense that in the emerging world order, dialogue is the preferred mode in inter-state relationship and it must be fostered with all means available.

The bottom line is, there has never been and never can be absolute security. No lesser a realist than Henry Kissinger highlighted the basic flaw in any quest for absolute security: “The desire of one power for absolute security means the absolute insecurity for all the others.”

When it comes to the South Asian region, this is even more so, as common security takes on special significance and urgency in the context of the nuclear stockpile and a sensitive flashpoint in the Himalayas and, of course, the strategic pivot of the region itself. Therefore, the attempt to resolve the Kashmir dispute unilaterally during the past six-year period since 2019 without any consultation / participation by Pakistan (or China, for that matter) is futile and betrays hubris.

 
So many here rambling about freedom, democracy, UN resolutions, and international law as if Pakistan has any moral high ground. Your own elections are decided in army barracks, not ballot boxes. Leaders are handpicked, not elected.

You shout about international order when it suits you, but conveniently forget that sponsoring jihadists, training militants, and exporting terrorism were never part of any UN mandate or global norms. Spare us the selective outrage.

As for the endless proposals to revive non-state actors, been there, tried that, failed spectacularly. You didn’t stop because of wisdom or peace, but because it backfired and became unsustainable. India has moved on. We'll do what serves our interests, whether or not it fits your narrative of “fairness” or “legality.”

But hey, keep going. I’m sure this thread will cross 1,000 pages.
No "selective outrage".

The problem is your "selective memory".

You speak about victimhood as if you were innocent or something.

Remember who taught terrorism to the subcontinent: LTTE, mukhti bahini, Dogra-led genocide in Jammu.

Sri Lankans and Bangladeshis know your sordid history as much as we in Pakistan do.

Chickens came home to roost.
 
Second, the present crisis has exposed that while the world opinion is supportive of India’s concerns over terrorism, it is not inclined to put the entire blame on Pakistan, as some of us would have probably liked. Put differently, the world opinion also empathises with Pakistan as a victim of terrorism. Terrorism poses an existential threat to Pakistan manifold in gravity compared to what India faces. And something of the Pakistani allegations with regard to an ‘Indian hand’ may have come to stick in the world opinion even if not audible.

A honest analysis by an Indian for a change. Indians keep asking why world isn't buying their story this time, well here is a piece written by Indian himself who isn't in denial mode when terror hit them and brag mode when it hit Pakistan.
 
A rickshaw puller in India can afford atta, pay for electricity, and still dream of sending his son to become an engineer, something that was once only a middle class aspiration. That’s the kind of social mobility India offers, even at the lowest rungs.

In Pakistan, forget engineering, your middle class is struggling to keep the lights on, let alone fund aspirations. So yes, it’s entirely fair to say quality of life in India is far ahead, and no amount of emotional spin can change that.
How you know? Mangoori laal k haseen sapnay.
 
Pakistani establishment only huffs and puffs against Afghanistan, then does mostly nothing.

When a terrorist attack happens in Pakistan, they blame India but don't even dare to huff and puff -- they just send some dossier to the UN where it gets filed in a dusty basement and ignored. Then they carry on with their top priority of looting the country.

Whereas nothing was done to protest or challenge the revocation of Article 370 in 2019, but now, after a long time Pakistan seems to be standing its ground, is on a diplomatic offensive and the country had its highest ever Current Account Surplus since the formation of Pakistan, as of 17th April 2025 (which negates the propaganda that Pakistan is being looted). Good news on diplomatic, military and economic fronts.

Just vague statements downplaying Pakistan because you do not like the faces of one person or another who is ruling Pakistan, is another thing, but if anything, the current establishment is seriously putting a fight to India after a very long time and its shows in the Army/Navy/Airforce drills alone, let alone the stand and resolve that whole Pakistani nation is taking as a whole.
 
The majority of Indians are duped by the media into thinking Pakistan is some lawless land where people sport kajal, talk in ji huzoor language and gun trotting militants roam free.

This narrative is built further when the government bans all sorts of documentary or people to people contact so that they can’t see the real Pakistan.

Sure, Pakistan has rampant poverty with endless corruption. And for this majority Pakistanis have no qualms taking their institutions to task.

Going further, majority of people live in an agrarian society and are self sufficient. So it’s a phenomenon of Indians living in glass houses and completely oblivious. The RSS ideology is working well for these folks.

Advise to Indians, is to control your side of Kashmir. You’ve got 700k armed personnels in the valley and ask questions of your government who failed miserably to protect the lives of innocent.
 
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A honest analysis by an Indian for a change. Indians keep asking why world isn't buying their story this time, well here is a piece written by Indian himself who isn't in denial mode when terror hit them and brag mode when it hit Pakistan.
Writer is a retired diplomat , thorough gentleman and honest writer...... unfortunately, not much liked in India
 
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