Pakistan-India Conflict 2025: News Updates and Discussion

Yasser76 said:
Justifying spreading Indian propoganda like the "downed F-16" by claiming his phone was snatched. Feeling he will not last long at The Economist now
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He was one of the few sane Indians accepting 4 crashes and Rafale getting shot. The rest were living in denial. I just checked out BR. All were living in an info cocoon.
 
Areesh said:
Shut up man

Just go surrender to jeets. Do a mujra in front of them or something

Just don't expect others to do the same
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What we are witnessing is the stage known as strategic paralysis.

"Strategic paralysis is an state in which the will, the capability to fight and the decision making capability became dormant for certain period NOT necessarily due to loss of vital infrastructure".

We have the infrastructure and means to respond the Indian aggressions, these are not only intact but fully functional, but the so called policy of the "restraint" of our policy makers is the classic example.

Our decision makers have shown their incapability to take right decision in timely manner, and enemy must have noted this incapability and will certainly use it in their advantage as per game theory. This incapability will make them more bold in their decision making and God forbid this incapability may fail the existing Strategic Deterrence between India and Pakistan.

An unfortunate and dangerous Possibility
 
mythbuster said:
Yep , with a caveat...... during late fifties and early sixties Americans provided massive support to Pakistan , not just equipment and finances but also structural reforms.......I am not sure America will provide similar level of support to India... being the largest country in the world India has the potential to become a lesser version of china....I don't think America wants to see another china
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The 1950s and 60s USA was the REAL USA before it got taken over by the evil racist zionists at every level of the governmental machinery. The zionists have poisoned the soul and identity of the USA beyond repair.

That USA took its last breath when JFK was shot dead in his dead.
 
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Han Patriot said:
He was one of the few sane Indians accepting 4 crashes and Rafale getting shot. The rest were living in denial. I just checked out BR. All were living in an info cocoon.
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Fair point, but that was when most western media was accepting it already,
 
Cash gk said:
Now they are finally coming to their senses. The man with the red cap, is just a mouthpiece of the establishment’s puppet president.
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Army failure to respond being put on gov as i mentioned earlier… scapegoating begins
 
Dr khan said:
Dog fight was the term used for two forces engaged in beyond visual range kinetic movements...
Each firing its BVRs and bailing out the avoid the opposition BVRs..

The with superior BVR and superior kinetic maneuvers will win if we consider both forves having similar sensor and aircrafts

I was suprised that meteor didnt get any kills
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To get a kill a missile needs to leave the rails, Indians did not fired any, they were stunned and panicked Our Jamming (that reminds me of Wind Jammer, Where is he at? anyone?) didn't allow them to lock or fire anything
 
Just woke up and caught up on this thread. Disappointment yet again. I have said it before and I say it again, retaliation should have been given whilst the pan was hot. It is now turning medium and so there is still time. Do it for the honour of our country.
As for the Najdi bare footed shepherd coming from Randia with notes to de-escalate. Well do the right thing and tell him to fcuk off. The shameless Arabs are siding with their business buddy. They are looking out for their interests not ours.
India has fired cruise missiles at MAINLAND Pakistan and killed innocent civilians including women and children including a child of a military lieutenant.
Indian Airforce is in panic due to the excellence of the Airforce. It's time for the Army to fulfill their side of the responsibilities and defend the honor of the nation. We can't always rely on the Airforce. Now stop being a bunch of b1tches and take a sector or 2 of IoK and babur/fateh attack main land India. Ideally Gujrat or Bombay. No more restraint and cowardice. No more rhetoric of "place and time of our choosing" the nation wants action NOW.
 
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delta2 said:
The French want to close sales and keep on selling spares/parts and service for up to some years.

The USA wants institutional influence over you and to have a continuous, mandatory input into your ways of doing things.

The Indians could have gone the USA way up until the last five years. The Russians however are now reasserting their interests and would strong arm the Indians into backing out from going the USA way for their next big item purchase. There is no way Russia will let the export version of the Su-57 go unbought by the Indians. Since the Indians are now very afraid and scared and will rush to get the next big super dooper jet. The USA will force the Indians to consider the F-35 or else face further American ire. It they don't, the post-Trump America will not tolerate it. The post-Trump America might give the Caucasian countries some room to breathe but not to the coloured ones when it comes to $$.

The Indians are damned if they do and damned if they don't.
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Highlighted parts = Absolutely spot on. The F-35 is serious tech and the US gets to decide how it is used and what type of infrastructure and organization is to be created to manage it. The US has not managed to convince India to buy any American jet fighter thus far. India is a large country and relatively difficult to influence accordingly. I doubt that Trump can get much from India in this matter. India is rather interested in advancing its domestic AMCA project.
 
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HRK said:
What we are witnessing is the stage known as strategic paralysis.

"Strategic paralysis is an state in which the will, the capability to fight and the decision making capability became dormant for certain period NOT necessarily due to loss of vital infrastructure".

We have the infrastructure and means to respond the Indian aggressions, these are not only intact but fully functional, but the so called policy of the "restraint" of our policy makers is the classic example.

Our decision makers have shown their incapability to take right decision in timely manner, and enemy must have noted this incapability and will certainly use it in their advantage as per game theory. This incapability will make them more bold in their decision making and God forbid this incapability may fail the existing Strategic Deterrence between India and Pakistan.

An unfortunate and dangerous Possibility
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In other words of Churchil who hated Indians as much as i hate them

“You were given the choice between war and dishonour. You chose dishonour, and you will have war."

Same would happen with Pakistan. Good Luck to all of Pakistan with that :)
 
Is it just me, who jumps at the phone as soon as I open my eyes in the morning and open dawn.com to see if there is any retaliation from Pakistan? I am sleeping only a few hours and waking up even before the alarm!

its like waiting for a text from your crush in college days.
 
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