POST WAR assessment of recent conflict.

Let’s recap.

Spectrum ascendancy achieved during initial skirmish - 5 aircraft splashed.

Did the armed forces send in drones to capture footage of the wreckage? This could provide the irrefutable proof everyone is looking for.

Unfortunately, from here onwards, it is a story of unprofessionalism. Instead of taking the initiative and imposing a relentless anti-IADS campaign to lock in your dominance, you literally sat comfortably behind your own IADS, comfy in your delusion of spectrum dominance.

The enemy started probing you and DGISPR is on record saying we had to turn off our air defence systems because the system gave the indication it is being ‘tracked’. This is technically wrong. Tracking by its very nature is passive. You cannot know when you are being tracked. What most likely happened is that the enemy learnt the pattern of your frequency hopping and started jamming you. Even after this eye opener, they shamelessly kept collecting ‘war trophies’ instead of going to the source where the drones were coming from.

Seeing your rank amateur antics, giving empty threats of wait for our response while practicing restraint, the enemy now escalated to Brahmos. You again employed EW tactics and showed amateurish over-confidence. Jam GPS signals? The laser gyro across 100 km is pretty reliable. Forget that, at these ranges the enemy can send one initial missile with telemetry, learn the positions of the control surfaces while observing the trajectory, and then simply employ salvos with slightly adjusted parameters for control surfaces until he scores a hit. The enemy doesn’t just buy the Brahmos, he manufactures it. He probably has it in the hundreds to thousands. And he can play with you all day long until he gets his parameters right and doesn’t rely on GPS.

Use microwaves to fry circuits? They can be shielded against.

You NEEDED a hard kill system in large numbers and the pathetic air chief showed unprofessionalism, naïveté, and just sheer stupidity when he did not include hard kill in the plans. You were screwed from the beginning and instead of going all out to take out the threat before it can materialise, you kept restraining yourself, as if this is a schoolyard and Miss will give you a gold star.

The enemy, gobsmacked at your sheer stupidity, violated one red line after the other. Water was already closed. You thought he will go by the predetermined playbook you agreed upon as gentlemen: no strikes on major airbases and installations. All gentlemanliness gone to dust. The enemy is a vile Hindutva crazed maniac and you are acting like you are still a schoolboy.

Finally you acted. But consider: according to your own admission, the Beas facility has fired salvos of hundreds of Brahmos. This facility is now EMPTY. And you are proud you targeted it?

The following applies to both sides: don’t be impressed by 30 ft craters in the ground. Filling up runway craters is air warfare 101. That crater only means you spent millions of dollars to dig a hole in the ground. It’s a case of fool and his money parting ways quickly. Same goes for big fires and explosions. It’s a missile striking an airbase. There will be an explosion and a fire. Possibly because flammable material was placed as decoy to give the impression of heavy damage. Ask yourself: did it strike ammo dump? Radar installation? Actual jets on the ground? Personnel? All the rest can be reconstructed.

Taking out S400? Imagine a projectile of 5000 km/hr. This is approx Mach 4. It takes 1.2 mins to cover 100 km. Give S400 30 seconds to start moving at 60 km/hr. In 42 sec it will be 0.7 km away. You need to saturate a circular area with radius 0.7 km. Or you need to predict its movement with perfection. The AVM used extremely carefully calibrated language: we targeted the S400. But the juicy bit is in the logical conclusion: if the S400 is forced to move, you get a window to attack what it was protecting. Because it’s shoot AND scoot: if it shoots it doesn’t scoot, and if it scoots it doesn’t shoot. So the question arises: what was the S400 protecting?

Finally, as the enemy laid waste to all your stupid assumptions of non-escalation and rational behaviour, the NCA meeting was called and the nuclear threat led to de-escalation. If that’s what it takes, you have failed miserably.

The morons in 65 caused a traffic jam and got awards instead of being sacked. This air chief brought us to the brink and will get a medal from a moron nation that can be fed some technical jargon, pumped with religious terminology, and laps up everything it is fed.
There is objective truth in a lot of what you wrote except you did ignore the teacher in the schoolyard -
Because at the end, you’re the failing grade student from poverty who has garnered a poor reputation and relies on goodwill to keep the bigger bully at bay.

Unfortunately, your calculation has been that the teachers will hold the bully in earlier but never happened and as the bully has gotten “mad” you are shell shocked in responding but also reeling from shooting yourself in the foot.

So from a simple case of expected outcomes this is what you were going to achieve.
 
The roof hasn’t crumpled or collapsed. The hardened material took the brunt of the impact and simply disintegrated, leaving behind the debris field and an uncollapsed roof.
The roof has visibly rippled, compare it to the one next to it and you can see it is consistent with a crumpling of the roof. This is not a hardened or reinforced structure that I know of, I am happy to be corrected with evidence.
 
Here is a similar structure at Murid Airbase, you can see the structure on the top right. This is not a hardened or reinforced structure.

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There is objective truth in a lot of what you wrote except you did ignore the teacher in the schoolyard -
Because at the end, you’re the failing grade student from poverty who has garnered a poor reputation and relies on goodwill to keep the bigger bully at bay.

Unfortunately, your calculation has been that the teachers will hold the bully in earlier but never happened and as the bully has gotten “mad” you are shell shocked in responding but also reeling from shooting yourself in the foot.

So from a simple case of expected outcomes this is what you were going to achieve.

The teacher reviewing preparations right in the middle of schoolyard fight.

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What’s the chance you started getting jammed after the teacher revealed everything to the bully?
 
The roof has visibly rippled, compare it to the one next to it and you can see it is consistent with a crumpling of the roof. This is not a hardened or reinforced structure that I know of, I am happy to be corrected with evidence.
Read the yellow box. It says ‘Building shows signs of severe structural damage’ but it doesn’t say the roof collapsed.
 
There is more structural damage on our side than their side. Brahmos flying freely. Pakistani ADS is weak. Focus was not on interceptors but was on making more nuclear missiles. Pakistan won only day one when Paf destroyed 6 Indian jets. After that, it was only Indian army that dominated by precision strikes on our airbases. When our jets were inside hangars and under continuous brahmos attack, iaf initiated their own attack at nur khan airbase.

Enemy identified weakness of pskistan and that is brahmos. One missile has changed whole game. Paf attack doesn’t show any damage on iaf bases.

Full scale war is probably weeks away.

There is no chance of Paf to fly their planes under continuous attack on airbases. Without airforce, no country can win a war in this age and time.

What to do next?

Talk to Indians. Listen to them. We can’t lose more parts of our country just because of Mad groups. Put them in jail. Solution of Kashmir through attacks is not possible as present prime minister of India doesn’t care about nuclear missiles.

Or,

If we want to fight then make ADS systems better. Use long range bombers, find a solution to defeat brahmos. Ask china to assist during war by opening second front.

I am sure war is coming. A former Indian member of pdf said same things about Kashmir which I fear most. India will attack our Kashmir and will make Paf wait in its hangers because of brahmos. At the end of the day, they only want groups not to target india. That’s it. They will stop if they see sincere efforts otherwise this crazy war will continue. He said more things but I can’t post here otherwise many members here will become angry.

If you ask me what to do next? I urge government to give peace a chance and to ask everyone not to fight against india without any reason. If india martyrs a person in Kashmir without any reason then it’s our right to talk to them about all this but it’s time to think wisely and save country from nuclear war.
 
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There is more structural damage on our side than their side. Brahmos flying freely. Pakistani ADS is weak. Focus was not on interceptors but was on making more nuclear missiles. Pakistan won only day one when Paf destroyed 6 Indian jets. After that, it was only Indian army that dominated by precision strikes on our airbases. When our jets were inside hangars and under continuous brahmos attack, iaf initiated their own attack at nur khan airbase.

Enemy identified weakness of pskistan and that is brahmos. One missile has changed whole game. Paf attack doesn’t show any damage on iaf bases.

Full scale war is probably weeks away.

There is no chance of Paf to fly their planes under continuous attack on airbases. Without airforce, no country can win a war in this age and time.

What to do next?

Talk to Indians. Listen to them. We can’t lose more parts of our country just because of Mad groups. Put them in jail. Solution of Kashmir through attacks is not possible as present prime minister of India doesn’t care about nuclear missiles.

Or,

If we want to fight then make ADS systems better. Use long range bombers, find a solution to defeat brahmos. Ask china to assist during war by opening second front.

I am sure war is coming. A former Indian member of pdf said same things about Kashmir which I fear most. India will attack our Kashmir and will make Paf wait in its hangers because of brahmos. At the end of the day, they only want groups not to target india. That’s it. They will stop if they see sincere efforts otherwise this crazy war will continue. He said more things but I can’t post here otherwise many members here will become angry.

If you ask me what to do next? I urge government to give peace a chance and to ask everyone not to fight against india without any reason. If india martyrs a person in Kashmir without any reason then it’s our right to talk to them about all this but it’s time to think wisely and save country from nuclear war.
The post on Indian Pakistan war. Can I steal it? :)
 
@Pakistan Space Agency

PSA sb,

We just have to wait for the Nominal GDP to be around $700-$800 billion when Pakistan will be able to persuade the Arabs into listening to Pakistan.

The current GDP is about USD 400 billion and growing at 2.5% p.a. At this rate it will need 28 years for you to reach USD 800 billion. So, we can look fwd to Iranian gas in 2053 or thereabouts.

Regards
Not really.

Pakistan aims to have a $1 trillion by 2035. World Bank says this is achievable as long as the growth rate is 7% at least.

Now, Pakistan is also predicted to have a $500 billion informal economy which the Government is targeting heavily to rope it into the formal sector. This is all part of the economic reforms that Pakistan initiated last year.

$374 billion (formal) + $500 billion (informal)
= $874 billion

Do you reckon Pakistan's GDP can grow by at least $126 billion over the next 10-years when considering it grew by $97 billion between 2013-2018?
 
Not really.

Pakistan aims to have a $1 trillion by 2035. World Bank says this is achievable as long as the growth rate is 7% at least.

Now, Pakistan is also predicted to have a $500 billion informal economy which the Government is targeting heavily to rope it into the formal sector. This is all part of the economic reforms that Pakistan initiated last year.

$374 billion (formal) + $500 billion (informal)
= $874 billion

Do you reckon Pakistan's GDP can grow by at least $126 billion over the next 10-years when considering it grew by $97 billion between 2013-2018?
Pakistan should hire an American economic advisor such as Jeffrey Sachs. He is very good. But he is a Jewish that wants America to stop supporting Israel as it’s an apartheid state. The Zionists hate him.
 
Not really.

Pakistan aims to have a $1 trillion by 2035. World Bank says this is achievable as long as the growth rate is 7% at least.

Now, Pakistan is also predicted to have a $500 billion informal economy which the Government is targeting heavily to rope it into the formal sector. This is all part of the economic reforms that Pakistan initiated last year.

$374 billion (formal) + $500 billion (informal)
= $874 billion

Do you reckon Pakistan's GDP can grow by at least $126 billion over the next 10-years when considering it grew by $97 billion between 2013-2018?

Dude with all due respect, how old are you?

How did you came up with these figures?

Even if Pakistan's informal economy is $500 billion, you cannot formalize all of it.

The best thing gov can do right now is to diversify taxation, especially we need to introduce tax on unused property( we all know the best way to invest or park money in Pakistan is to buy plots) and traders.

Tax to gdp ratio in Pakistan is pathetic at 10.8% , we need to double it, NOT by taxing low income individuals( 1 lakh monthly income).

You need people to spend on made in Pakistan and thus create demand without putting too much burden on foreign reserve.

And last but not least, massive investment in education. Having a massive young population is indeed an asset but uneducated young population is more of a threat then anything else.
There are millions of children in Pakistan out of school, we should be ashamed of ourselves that while the world sends their kids to school we send them to work.

There many more factors, ik, but hope you got the point.
 
Pakistan should hire an American economic advisor such as Jeffrey Sachs. He is very good. But he is a Jewish that wants America to stop supporting Israel as it’s an apartheid state. The Zionists hate him.
Jeffrey Sachs is a wonderful orator. He explains economics so well in layman terms.
 
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What’s the chance you started getting jammed after the teacher revealed everything to the bully?

No such conspiracy like that -

Relationships are managed in a very different way and it is in the interest of the schoolyard supervisors to maintain a certain balance as well.
 
We must root out Israel, once and for good. This bl leach keeps sucking every now and then..
 

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