RescueRanger
Meme Lord
Because there is NO nuclear facility at Nur Khan Air Base. For goodness sake, Indian's talk so much BULLSHIT (pardon the foul language).
Pakistan-India Conflict 2025: News Updates and Discussion
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Because there is NO nuclear facility at Nur Khan Air Base. For goodness sake, Indian's talk so much BULLSHIT (pardon the foul language).
FarhanSiddiqui
Registered Member
We in Canada now scared to live besides the Trump's America
AZ_HighCountry
INT'L MOD
C'mon down. You'd be just fine in my neighborhood.
I'll even try my hand at cooking up some anday wala burgers.
RescueRanger
Meme Lord
Hahah,
I wish more people would come to Pakistan, we were seeing some economic improvement, we had some positive developments, lots of new incubator projects in the tech sector.
I was watching a fantastic documentary on urban policing in the states called Flint Town. Now that is a hard place to police.
AZ_HighCountry
INT'L MOD
I'm serious as the heart attack I've been avoiding.
Closest I got to Pakistan was Kabul when my employer sent me out to Al Manama for a short while.
No, not the US military.
RescueRanger
Meme Lord
We will look after you don't worry
. I've been told our tea is fantastic. But in all seriousness, man I have been working in this stupid field for many years - would be lovely to see some peace for at least junior me.
FarhanSiddiqui
Registered Member
Even Canadian-born Anglo-Saxon citizens are being jailed by ICE without charges and habeas corpus.
Canadian citizen describes her ‘nightmare’ 12 day ICE detention that came without warning
Canadian citizen Jasmine Mooney says she was detained by ICE without explanation while attempting to apply for a new work visa. She recounts her experience in detention to Katy Tur, saying no one spok...
AZ_HighCountry
INT'L MOD
Hence why I get (too) cynical at times and ask if maybe just once we could sit one, or two, out.
AZ_HighCountry
INT'L MOD
Even Canadian-born Anglo-Saxon citizens are being jailed by ICE without charges and habeas corpus.
Canadian citizen describes her ‘nightmare’ 12 day ICE detention that came without warning
Canadian citizen Jasmine Mooney says she was detained by ICE without explanation while attempting to apply for a new work visa. She recounts her experience in detention to Katy Tur, saying no one spok...www.yahoo.com
I heard about that case. Both sad and frustrating.
PakAl
Elite Member
Chinese weapons pass combat test in India-Pakistan clash ‘with flying colours’: report
BR Web Desk
May 15, 2025
Pakistan on May 7 had informed a delegation of Chinese embassy officials that the Chengdu J-10 Vigorous Dragon, a Chinese multipurpose fighter jet, had brought down India’s French-made Rafales, France 24 reported.
It was just hours after India launched its Operation Sindoor with an opening salvo of strikes on Pakistan in response to a deadly April 22 terror attack in Indian-administered Kashmir. India blamed Pakistan for the attack, Islamabad denied the allegation, but was nonetheless prepared for India’s military riposte.
So were the Chinese weapon systems acquired by Pakistan in recent years.
When the Chinese delegation, led by Beijing’s ambassador in Islamabad, arrived at Pakistan’s foreign ministry, they were promptly given the good news, Pakistani Foreign Minister Ishaq Dar told parliament later that day.
“Our jet fighters … shot down three Indian Rafales, three Rafales [that] are French,” Dar told the National Assembly. “Ours were J-10Cs,” he noted, referring to the Chengdu J-10 Vigorous Dragon, a Chinese multipurpose fighter jet that was untested in an active combat zone until the latest India-Pakistan armed clash.
In the aftermath of the ceasefire, attention has focused on Islamabad’s new range of Chinese weapons and defence systems that finally saw combat during the May 7-10 India-Pakistan armed clash. It came as India’s newly acquired arsenal of mostly Western arms took on China’s increasingly sophisticated military hardware.
‘Big victory for China in terms of perception’
The odds were in New Delhi’s favour ahead of its retaliation for the April 22 terror attack. With its first strikes, India signalled a break from its traditional doctrine of strategic restraint, hitting targets not just in Pakistani-administered Kashmir and remote border regions, but in the country’s political heartland Punjab province.
India’s escalation raised international alarm bells on the second day of clashes, when it hit the Nur Khan air base in Rawalpindi, a garrison city near Islamabad. Situated just a short distance from the headquarters of Pakistan’s Strategic Plans Division, which oversees and protects the country’s nuclear arsenal, the Nur Khan base is a key hub for the country’s military.
Pakistan’s claim that its J-10 fighter jets brought down India’s French-made Rafales sparked exultation on Chinese social media platform, Weibo, with many users speculating that buyers will probably soon be flocking to Chinese arms manufacturers.
“We always had the impression that Chinese weapons were the same as Chinese goods in a way. We assumed that Chinese weapons are inferior. This is not the case anymore,” said Carlotta Rinaudo, a China expert at the International Team for the Study of Security Verona.
“We saw China initially just selling tanks and smaller weapons, especially to Pakistan. Now we see very modern and sophisticated weapons being sold that are actually being very effective. So, the lesson that we should all take out of this is that perhaps Chinese weapons are not inferior to Western weapons. We should change that paradigm that we’ve been holding for very long.”
People don't realise how big this is. Jf17 went from 3rd generation airframe junk fighter to a killer and J10CE has become the dragon, Chinese weaponary actually works, it's proven in the history.
Cookie Monster
Trusted Member
I would like to know the actual true story. I've only ever heard that she had her heart broken by some Pakistani(army possibly)...so many rumors.
RescueRanger
Meme Lord
Since the rabid warmongering media are so fond of nuking Pakistan... For any ARNAB or Bakshi fanboys stalking this thread... Please be enlightened:
Firstly, In a declassified document from the US which examined an Indian strike against Pakistani nuclear facilities the scientists deemed that any such strike would be unfeasible:
These are the two projections that the US had theorised in the worst case scenario of their war-gaming where Indian were to target Pakistan's strategic assets:
Note that the resulting fallout and ecological damage beyond Pakistan made these "non-feasible" and then 1998 happened!
In 2008 WACCM used the NCAR model to stimulate Global environmental effects of a regional nuclear war.
"A regional nuclear conflict between India and Pakistan would not only inflict immediate damage in the subcontinent, including massive loss of life and destruction of built infrastructure; severe long-term environmental damage would also spread globally, lasting decades, researchers have found.
In a paper published in the AGU journal Earth’s Future, NCAR Atmospheric Chemistry Division project scientists Michael Mills and Julia Lee-Taylor and their colleagues present the first study of such a scenario to use an Earth system model including coupled interactions between atmospheric chemistry and dynamics, ocean dynamics, sea ice and land components.
They studied a scenario in which India and Pakistan each detonate 50 small nuclear weapons, about half of their current arsenals, in modern megacities, igniting fires that would build for hours after the explosions.
The fires would build into firestorms consuming buildings, vegetation, roads, fuel depots, and other infrastructure, releasing energy many times that of the weapon’s yield, generating 5 Tg of smoke in the form of black carbon (BC).
Calculations using version 1.0 of the Community Earth System Model (CESM1), with the Whole Atmosphere Community Climate Model (WACCM) show that the BC would self-loft to the stratosphere, where it would spread globally, producing the coldest average surface temperatures in the last 1000 years.
Killing frosts would reduce growing seasons by 10-40 days per year for 5 years. The figure shows how CESM1(WACCM) calculates that the BC would remain in the stratosphere (panel a) reducing solar fluxes to the surface (panel b) for nearly 2 decades, much longer than previous studies of the same scenario with other models, due to interaction of the radiation, chemistry, and dynamics calculated in the coupled model. Surface temperatures (panel c) and precipitation (panel d) would be reduced for more than 25 years, due to thermal inertia and albedo effects in the ocean and expanded sea ice.
Previous studies did not include both full ocean dynamics and atmospheric chemistry, and found that these disruptive effects on surface climate would last about 10 years.
At the same time, intense heating of the stratosphere would cause global ozone losses of 20%-50% over populated areas, levels unprecedented in human history.
The authors calculate summer enhancements in damaging ultraviolet radiation of 30%-80% over mid-latitudes, suggesting widespread damage to human health, agriculture, and terrestrial and aquatic ecosystems.
The combined cooling and enhanced UV would put significant pressures on global food supplies and could trigger a global nuclear famine. The authors also note that the 100 relatively small nuclear bombs in the study represent just a small fraction of the world’s approximately 17,000 nuclear weapons.
Source: Mills, M. J., O. B. Toon, J. Lee-Taylor, and A. Robock (2014), Multi-decadal global cooling and unprecedented ozone loss following a regional nuclear conflict, Earth's Future, n/a–n/a, doi:10.1002/2013EF000205
And just in-case global Armageddon wasn't enough of an incentive - The Shaheen II can reach all of India and Pakistan possess a second strike capability
=========================================================
So Lt General Ahmed Sharif Chaudhry isn't bluffing when he says: "If India thinks that it can carve out a space for war between India and Pakistan, it is actually a recipe for carving out mutual destruction," he said.
Full Interview here:
news.sky.com
Firstly, In a declassified document from the US which examined an Indian strike against Pakistani nuclear facilities the scientists deemed that any such strike would be unfeasible:
These are the two projections that the US had theorised in the worst case scenario of their war-gaming where Indian were to target Pakistan's strategic assets:Note that the resulting fallout and ecological damage beyond Pakistan made these "non-feasible" and then 1998 happened!
In 2008 WACCM used the NCAR model to stimulate Global environmental effects of a regional nuclear war.
"A regional nuclear conflict between India and Pakistan would not only inflict immediate damage in the subcontinent, including massive loss of life and destruction of built infrastructure; severe long-term environmental damage would also spread globally, lasting decades, researchers have found.
In a paper published in the AGU journal Earth’s Future, NCAR Atmospheric Chemistry Division project scientists Michael Mills and Julia Lee-Taylor and their colleagues present the first study of such a scenario to use an Earth system model including coupled interactions between atmospheric chemistry and dynamics, ocean dynamics, sea ice and land components.
They studied a scenario in which India and Pakistan each detonate 50 small nuclear weapons, about half of their current arsenals, in modern megacities, igniting fires that would build for hours after the explosions.
The fires would build into firestorms consuming buildings, vegetation, roads, fuel depots, and other infrastructure, releasing energy many times that of the weapon’s yield, generating 5 Tg of smoke in the form of black carbon (BC).
Calculations using version 1.0 of the Community Earth System Model (CESM1), with the Whole Atmosphere Community Climate Model (WACCM) show that the BC would self-loft to the stratosphere, where it would spread globally, producing the coldest average surface temperatures in the last 1000 years.
Killing frosts would reduce growing seasons by 10-40 days per year for 5 years. The figure shows how CESM1(WACCM) calculates that the BC would remain in the stratosphere (panel a) reducing solar fluxes to the surface (panel b) for nearly 2 decades, much longer than previous studies of the same scenario with other models, due to interaction of the radiation, chemistry, and dynamics calculated in the coupled model. Surface temperatures (panel c) and precipitation (panel d) would be reduced for more than 25 years, due to thermal inertia and albedo effects in the ocean and expanded sea ice.
Previous studies did not include both full ocean dynamics and atmospheric chemistry, and found that these disruptive effects on surface climate would last about 10 years.
At the same time, intense heating of the stratosphere would cause global ozone losses of 20%-50% over populated areas, levels unprecedented in human history.
The authors calculate summer enhancements in damaging ultraviolet radiation of 30%-80% over mid-latitudes, suggesting widespread damage to human health, agriculture, and terrestrial and aquatic ecosystems.
The combined cooling and enhanced UV would put significant pressures on global food supplies and could trigger a global nuclear famine. The authors also note that the 100 relatively small nuclear bombs in the study represent just a small fraction of the world’s approximately 17,000 nuclear weapons.
Source: Mills, M. J., O. B. Toon, J. Lee-Taylor, and A. Robock (2014), Multi-decadal global cooling and unprecedented ozone loss following a regional nuclear conflict, Earth's Future, n/a–n/a, doi:10.1002/2013EF000205
And just in-case global Armageddon wasn't enough of an incentive - The Shaheen II can reach all of India and Pakistan possess a second strike capability
=========================================================
So Lt General Ahmed Sharif Chaudhry isn't bluffing when he says: "If India thinks that it can carve out a space for war between India and Pakistan, it is actually a recipe for carving out mutual destruction," he said.
Full Interview here:
Pakistan vows 'swift response' if India violates ceasefire
Lt General Ahmed Sharif Chaudhry told Sky News: "Anyone who tries to violate our territory and integrity and sovereignty, our response will be brutal."
AZ_HighCountry
INT'L MOD
The upside is such an event would address the global warming fear mongering, eh?
In all seriousness, any such event is not a good one. For anyone.
For those who have been calling to end the "problem" once and for all, I'm glad cooler heads are prevailing.
In all seriousness, any such event is not a good one. For anyone.
For those who have been calling to end the "problem" once and for all, I'm glad cooler heads are prevailing.
RescueRanger
Meme Lord
Yes, I agree.
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