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[Corax]

For someone like me who is not familiar with Pakistani politics or doesn't follow current development, could I please have an unbiased explanation why Imran Kahn was removed from power? I know it was because of a "rift" with the Pak military, but what exactly caused this "rift"? what was the disagreement between the military and PTI? Why was it so severe that it couldn't be dealt with by talks and reaching some sort of solution, rather than removing Imran Khan?

 

[ghazi52]

 

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[Watandar]

For someone like me who is not familiar with Pakistani politics or doesn't follow current development, could I please have an unbiased explanation why Imran Kahn was removed from power? I know it was because of a "rift" with the Pak military, but what exactly caused this "rift"? what was the disagreement between the military and PTI? Why was it so severe that it couldn't be dealt with by talks and reaching some sort of solution, rather than removing Imran Khan?

His main job was to present a modern face of Pakistan to the world and get rid of something in Pakistan called the 18th amendment, which transferred resources from the center to the provinces and had become a headache for the military. He was also supposed to obey all orders issued to him by his GHQ sponsors.

Instead of this Mr Khan was disobedient from the start and began pursuing demagoguery, occult practices and a pseudo-Islamic revivalism. He ruined Pakistan's relations with almost all countries with his loose use of tongue and finally when he refused to approve the promotions/transfers of military officers, his sponsors decided to cut their losses and kicked him out.

Mr Khan then had the option of staying quiet and re-entering politics at a later date but chose the path of total confrontation and attack on the military and political system. This built to a crescendo in May of 2024 when his party attacked military bases and incited mutiny in the officers corps. Thats why he is sitting in jail today.

 

[HAIDER]

His main job was to present a modern face of Pakistan to the world and get rid of something in Pakistan called the 18th amendment, which transferred resources from the center to the provinces and had become a headache for the military. He was also supposed to obey all orders issued to him by his GHQ sponsors.

Instead of this Mr Khan was disobedient from the start and began pursuing demagoguery, occult practices and a pseudo-Islamic revivalism. He ruined Pakistan's relations with almost all countries with his loose use of tongue and finally when he refused to approve the promotions/transfers of military officers, his sponsors decided to cut their losses and kicked him out.

Mr Khan then had the option of staying quiet and re-entering politics at a later date but chose the path of total confrontation and attack on the military and political system. This built to a crescendo in May of 2024 when his party attacked military bases and incited mutiny in the officers corps. Thats why he is sitting in jail today.

Seems our justice system is no 1 in the world. ....lolll......and these 200 fake FIR and fake cases,,, overnight courts running inside the jail .....how much get paid for this fake mantra ...

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[FOOLS_NIGHTMARE]

Senior PTI leaders say ex-premier indicated his willingness to open channels of dialogue with military establishment

Former prime minister Imran Khan’s erratic political stance and contradictory statements have left the Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf (PTI) leadership confused, frustrated, and increasingly divided over how to seek political relief for both their jailed leader and the embattled party.

According to media reports, senior PTI leaders who met Imran in Adiala jail on Tuesday said the former premier indicated his willingness to open channels of dialogue with the military establishment.

He reportedly gave a green light to the party to explore the possibility of talks with the top brass. However, he drew a clear red line, saying no negotiations should be held with the government or the ruling Pakistan Muslim League-Nawaz (PML-N).

Yet, in a sharp twist barely 24 hours later, Imran reportedly criticised Army Chief General Asim Munir’s elevation to field marshal. As per Imran’s sisters, who visited him in jail on Wednesday, the PTI founder sarcastically remarked that instead of becoming field marshal, Munir should have declared himself a “king”.

This latest comment has triggered a fresh wave of dismay among the PTI’s top ranks. One senior leader, speaking on condition of anonymity, questioned how the party could pursue any meaningful dialogue with the establishment when the PTI founding chairman continues to publicly mock its top leadership.

Adding to the confusion, while Imran’s sister Aleema Khan conveyed his critical remarks to the media, PTI Chairman Barrister Gohar Ali Khan had already congratulated General Munir on his elevation while talking to media persons earlier in the day.

“There’s no coherence in our approach,” admitted a frustrated PTI leader. He explained: “We’re told one thing by Imran one day, and then something completely different the next. Even his sisters, perhaps unaware of the implications, end up amplifying his emotional outbursts.”

Some senior PTI members reportedly huddled privately to discuss the fallout of Imran’s latest remarks, with several voicing concern over how to proceed when even internal consensus seems impossible under Imran’s inconsistency.

Interestingly, it has emerged that just last week, Imran had indicated willingness to allow the PTI to engage with the government following Prime Minister Shehbaz Sharif’s renewed offer for dialogue.

But, the party sources said, in another U-turn during Wednesday’s meeting, Imran claimed it had been a “misunderstanding” — clarifying that he never meant for the party to talk to the PMLN-led coalition. He reaffirmed that while the door remains open for talks with the military, there won’t be any talks with the government.

“What can we do in these situations?” one PTI insider lamented. “We’re stuck. Our leader says one thing, then says he didn’t mean it. And his family’s public commentary only adds fuel to the fire.”

With Imran’s legal troubles unending and political isolation continuing, the party’s internal disarray reflects uncertainty. Whether the PTI can chart an agreed way forward, or whether Imran himself will allow it, remains the million-dollar question.

 

[Master Chief]

You and I, along with our dear readers know the reality. The establishment and the nation does not actually deserve progressive democracy. We deserve nothing beyond nepotism, sycophancy, and abysmal dynastic politics.

That this man is somehow still in jail and all institutional arms are wholly unified in pitiful defence of the abrogation of due democratic process remains the perennial challenge faced by modern Pakistani politics.

If I were Imran Khan, I would cut a deal, leave Pakistan, and retire somewhere away from this mess. He has done everything he possibly can to awaken this nation, yet we lazily default to the same fundamentally flawed "tribal politics" that causes us nothing but strife in our own hinterland to the west.

I will gladly defend and support our military to the hilt, but the shameless circus show that governs us is another matter entirely.

 

[Taimoor]

You and I, along with our dear readers know the reality. The establishment and the nation does not actually deserve progressive democracy. We deserve nothing beyond nepotism, sycophancy, and abysmal dynastic politics.

That this man is somehow still in jail and all institutional arms are wholly unified in pitiful defence of the abrogation of due democratic process remains the perennial challenge faced by modern Pakistani politics.

If I were Imran Khan, I would cut a deal, leave Pakistan, and retire somewhere away from this mess. He has done everything he possibly can to awaken this nation, yet we lazily default to the same fundamentally flawed "tribal politics" that causes us nothing but strife in our own hinterland to the west.

I will gladly defend and support our military to the hilt, but the shameless circus show that governs us is another matter entirely.

Its pitiful that those so called ordinary joe, who maybe educated, take this situation as some sort of grand design for greater good!

 

[Zarvan]

Senior PTI leaders say ex-premier indicated his willingness to open channels of dialogue with military establishment
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Former prime minister Imran Khan’s erratic political stance and contradictory statements have left the Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf (PTI) leadership confused, frustrated, and increasingly divided over how to seek political relief for both their jailed leader and the embattled party.

According to media reports, senior PTI leaders who met Imran in Adiala jail on Tuesday said the former premier indicated his willingness to open channels of dialogue with the military establishment.

He reportedly gave a green light to the party to explore the possibility of talks with the top brass. However, he drew a clear red line, saying no negotiations should be held with the government or the ruling Pakistan Muslim League-Nawaz (PML-N).

Yet, in a sharp twist barely 24 hours later, Imran reportedly criticised Army Chief General Asim Munir’s elevation to field marshal. As per Imran’s sisters, who visited him in jail on Wednesday, the PTI founder sarcastically remarked that instead of becoming field marshal, Munir should have declared himself a “king”.

This latest comment has triggered a fresh wave of dismay among the PTI’s top ranks. One senior leader, speaking on condition of anonymity, questioned how the party could pursue any meaningful dialogue with the establishment when the PTI founding chairman continues to publicly mock its top leadership.

Adding to the confusion, while Imran’s sister Aleema Khan conveyed his critical remarks to the media, PTI Chairman Barrister Gohar Ali Khan had already congratulated General Munir on his elevation while talking to media persons earlier in the day.

“There’s no coherence in our approach,” admitted a frustrated PTI leader. He explained: “We’re told one thing by Imran one day, and then something completely different the next. Even his sisters, perhaps unaware of the implications, end up amplifying his emotional outbursts.”

Some senior PTI members reportedly huddled privately to discuss the fallout of Imran’s latest remarks, with several voicing concern over how to proceed when even internal consensus seems impossible under Imran’s inconsistency.

Interestingly, it has emerged that just last week, Imran had indicated willingness to allow the PTI to engage with the government following Prime Minister Shehbaz Sharif’s renewed offer for dialogue.

But, the party sources said, in another U-turn during Wednesday’s meeting, Imran claimed it had been a “misunderstanding” — clarifying that he never meant for the party to talk to the PMLN-led coalition. He reaffirmed that while the door remains open for talks with the military, there won’t be any talks with the government.

“What can we do in these situations?” one PTI insider lamented. “We’re stuck. Our leader says one thing, then says he didn’t mean it. And his family’s public commentary only adds fuel to the fire.”

With Imran’s legal troubles unending and political isolation continuing, the party’s internal disarray reflects uncertainty. Whether the PTI can chart an agreed way forward, or whether Imran himself will allow it, remains the million-dollar question.

Establishment still can't understand that they have met a different guy who would prefer go down fighting instead of surrendering. They have always dealt with PML N and PPP who go to jail withing a month get admitted to hospital and than make a deal and run away. Khan is not going to back down. Simple as that.

 

[El Sidd]

Nelson Mandela never went personal. This Asian Mandela only gets personal.

 

[Fatman17]

Senior PTI leaders say ex-premier indicated his willingness to open channels of dialogue with military establishment
View attachment 122813
Former prime minister Imran Khan’s erratic political stance and contradictory statements have left the Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf (PTI) leadership confused, frustrated, and increasingly divided over how to seek political relief for both their jailed leader and the embattled party.

According to media reports, senior PTI leaders who met Imran in Adiala jail on Tuesday said the former premier indicated his willingness to open channels of dialogue with the military establishment.

He reportedly gave a green light to the party to explore the possibility of talks with the top brass. However, he drew a clear red line, saying no negotiations should be held with the government or the ruling Pakistan Muslim League-Nawaz (PML-N).

Yet, in a sharp twist barely 24 hours later, Imran reportedly criticised Army Chief General Asim Munir’s elevation to field marshal. As per Imran’s sisters, who visited him in jail on Wednesday, the PTI founder sarcastically remarked that instead of becoming field marshal, Munir should have declared himself a “king”.

This latest comment has triggered a fresh wave of dismay among the PTI’s top ranks. One senior leader, speaking on condition of anonymity, questioned how the party could pursue any meaningful dialogue with the establishment when the PTI founding chairman continues to publicly mock its top leadership.

Adding to the confusion, while Imran’s sister Aleema Khan conveyed his critical remarks to the media, PTI Chairman Barrister Gohar Ali Khan had already congratulated General Munir on his elevation while talking to media persons earlier in the day.

“There’s no coherence in our approach,” admitted a frustrated PTI leader. He explained: “We’re told one thing by Imran one day, and then something completely different the next. Even his sisters, perhaps unaware of the implications, end up amplifying his emotional outbursts.”

Some senior PTI members reportedly huddled privately to discuss the fallout of Imran’s latest remarks, with several voicing concern over how to proceed when even internal consensus seems impossible under Imran’s inconsistency.

Interestingly, it has emerged that just last week, Imran had indicated willingness to allow the PTI to engage with the government following Prime Minister Shehbaz Sharif’s renewed offer for dialogue.

But, the party sources said, in another U-turn during Wednesday’s meeting, Imran claimed it had been a “misunderstanding” — clarifying that he never meant for the party to talk to the PMLN-led coalition. He reaffirmed that while the door remains open for talks with the military, there won’t be any talks with the government.

“What can we do in these situations?” one PTI insider lamented. “We’re stuck. Our leader says one thing, then says he didn’t mean it. And his family’s public commentary only adds fuel to the fire.”

With Imran’s legal troubles unending and political isolation continuing, the party’s internal disarray reflects uncertainty. Whether the PTI can chart an agreed way forward, or whether Imran himself will allow it, remains the million-dollar question.

Geo fake news