Pakistan-India Conflict 2025: News Updates and Discussion

An anti-terrorism court on Monday awarded a jail term to a member of a banned outfit on charges of learning to make bombs on Facebook.

ATC-I Judge Manzer Ali Gill convicted the accused, Hannan Abdullah, after finding him guilty and sentenced him to two years and six months in prison. He also imposed a fine of Rs50,000 on the convict.

The convict, who was on bail, was taken into custody from the court after the announcement of the guilty verdict.

The judge handed over the custody of the convict to Kot Lakhpat Jail officials.

The FIA had registered a case against the convict in 2022.

The prosecution said the convict was learning how to make bombs on Facebook. It said the convict also established contacts with terrorists and a banned outfit through Facebook.

A prosecutor asked the court to convict the accused in light of the cogent evidence available on record.
 
Is that reasonable to say, the article is implying that the US is trying to adopt this now, I thought it was already built in to the f 35 infrastructure

Think the US is there already. Satellites play a big role in this so I guess it will be hard foa ll countries to replicate outside of China and US
 

The Biggest News from India-Pakistan Air Battle: the Kill Chain​


The most important element of an air-to-air engagement in the recent India-Pakistan conflict may be how Pakistan integrated its Chinese-origin weapons and air defenses to shoot down at least one Indian Rafale fighter, an expert on the Chinese military said.

The effectiveness of the kill chain may have been more important than the capabilities of the specific fighters, said Michael Dahm, a senior fellow at AFA’s Mitchell Institute for Aerospace Studies, who is an expert on Chinese military affairs.


Pakistan can “integrate ground radars with fighter jets and airborne early warning aircraft,” said Dahm. “The Pakistani Air Force deployed …’ A’ launched by ‘B’ and guided by ‘C’” and hit the target, he added, citing a May 12 report from China Space News, a Chinese defense industry magazine.

Speaking on a recent podcast, Dahm said the chain may have started with a Pakistani ground radar—“maybe a surface-to-air missile system, or some other type of radar system”—which “illuminated the Indian target.” Then, a Pakistani J-10C fighter “launched its missiles, probably at range, and finally, an airborne early warning and control aircraft used a midcourse datalink to update and guide the missile to the Indian fighter.”

It was a “long-range shot, beyond visual range,” likely using the export version of China’s PL-15 air-to-air missile, which Dahm said has an 80 nautical mile range.

The kill chain is the same kind the U.S. is attempting to create within and between its services through the Combined Joint All Domain Command and Control (CJADC2) concept.

“When, and if, we do find out more about the details of the engagement, this may tell a story, more about systems integration and how well Pakistan has done systems integration, versus how well India has done systems integration,” Dahm said.


No details are available about where the Rafale was when it was hit, although Pakistani news agencies showed wreckage that may or may not have been the remains of an Indian Rafale on Pakistani territory. Pakistan claimed after the engagement that it had shot down five Indian aircraft—four fighters and a drone—which conducted an airstrike in Pakistan.

Pakistan seems to have very recently converted several Chinese airborne early warning and control aircraft into electronic warfare aircraft, Dahm said, but it’s unknown whether those aircraft were manipulating the electromagnetic environment. Pakistan’s radar systems and the J-10 are also Chinese in origin.

“What does this say about Chinese technology versus Western technology? Probably not a whole lot, but it probably says a lot more about systems of systems, about training, about tactics … about all of those difficult-to-quantify things,” rather than the relative capabilities of the J-10 versus the Rafale, Dahm said.

He also noted that while India’s air force is bigger than Pakistan’s, it includes “a hodgepodge” of Western, Israeli, Russian, and Indian-produced technology, which makes systems integration much more difficult.

Dahm said that while many news outlets are playing up the angle of the fourth-generation J-10C shooting down a fourth-and-a-half generation Rafale, the comparison of aircraft “probably tells us absolutely nothing.” It’s not known whether the Rafale was departing the target area or whether it had fired any missiles at the Pakistani aircraft, he said.


The Rafale was sold to India with the Meteor missile, which Dahm described as “a beast”—a solid-fueled ramjet missile with a top speed of Mach 4 and a range of 108 nautical miles—with a “wicked … no-escape zone.”

But “from the very, very limited reporting we have, there are no indications the Rafale was shot down with a Meteor missile still intact. They found the wreckage. There was a shorter-range [infrared] missile found in the wreckage, but there was no indication that the Meteor was there. Now, maybe the Rafale had a Meteor and it fired it. Maybe it wasn’t carrying one at all. But I don’t think this really tells us anything about how good the J-10 is compared to the Rafale, or how good the Chinese technology is compared to the Western tech.”




west is not digesting things easily, ego hurts.

now if someone finds excuses like this man above said, fight does not portray the relative capabilities of the J-10 vs Rafale.

rather he should be praising the planning and the tactics used. but then, how will they sell their stuff? it is a big blow to them and can't be swallowed easily.
 
west is not digesting things easily, ego hurts.

now if someone finds excuses like this man above said, fight does not portray the relative capabilities of the J-10 vs Rafale.

rather he should be praising the planning and the tactics used. but then, how will they sell their stuff? it is a big blow to them and can't be swallowed easily.
This seems to be the new narrative, but imagined if it was the other way around, the blame would be on Chinese 100%.
 
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Pakistan to get J-35 by end of the year.

50% discount and east installments as a reward. China will make profits by selling their weapons to rest of the world. But Pakistan will battle test them against India 🤑
 
Think the US is there already. Satellites play a big role in this so I guess it will be hard foa ll countries to replicate outside of China and US
That's what I thought

And the Indians have just had a satellite launch failure, what a coincidence.

I suppose, in that sense quite a few Nations would have a stake in seeing India not develop this capability.


Leave everyone with this quote from gadaffis girlfriend



Mulit-polarity is a theory of rivalry; of competing interests -- and at its worst -- competing values.



 
According to GD Bakshi, no planes fell (first 10 mins of video), the whole world was fooled coz of powerpoint. US experts, French Experts, looked at Powerpoint and lost their brains too. The engines and plane parts that people photographed were decoys that were made to look exactly like Rafales, so GD gets to explain later that those were NOT Rafales :ROFLMAO: Indian Media are just making complete clownery of themselves with each passing day.

All of those French and US and global experts who wasted their lives should hire GD Bakhshi to build Moustache powered planes, with Bhakts attached to wings and cow dung coating for stealth.


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According to GD Bakshi, no planes fell (first 10 mins of video), the whole world was fooled coz of powerpoint. US experts, French Experts, looked at Powerpoint and lost their brains too. The engines and plane parts that people photographed were decoys that were made to look exactly like Rafales, so GD gets to explain later that those were NOT Rafales :ROFLMAO: Indian Media are just making complete clownery of themselves with each passing day.

All of those French and US and global experts who wasted their lives should hire GD Bakhshi to build Moustache powered planes, with Bhakts attached to their wings. Can't believe they all wasted their lives and never knew the power of powerpoint. :ROFLMAO:


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I cant stand this donkey.
 
This is something that needs to be watched and studied, sadly I foresee this can and may become a reality in our region. How cheap drones have turned havoc in war. The information in this video is incredibly valuable. The evolution and the very fast pace in drone development.

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west is not digesting things easily, ego hurts.

now if someone finds excuses like this man above said, fight does not portray the relative capabilities of the J-10 vs Rafale.

rather he should be praising the planning and the tactics used. but then, how will they sell their stuff? it is a big blow to them and can't be swallowed easily.

Yeah, the article makes no mention of why the much vaunted Spectra did not work and of course the ICMS 3 Counter measures on the Mirage 2000 upgrade failed too. Both hailed as pinnicles of French EW tech
 
You maybe upsetting a lot of donkeys.
He grates my nerves. He is an expert on everything, like his little padawan Major Gobar. Expert on counter-terrorism, expert in missile technology, expert in aviation l, expert in naval warfare, expert in mountain warfare, expert in espionage.

Like, give it a rest old man. Stick to shouting and screaming on TV, it's what he is good at.
😂
 
According to GD Bakshi, no planes fell (first 10 mins of video), the whole world was fooled coz of powerpoint. US experts, French Experts, looked at Powerpoint and lost their brains too. The engines and plane parts that people photographed were decoys that were made to look exactly like Rafales, so GD gets to explain later that those were NOT Rafales :ROFLMAO: Indian Media are just making complete clownery of themselves with each passing day.

All of those French and US and global experts who wasted their lives should hire GD Bakhshi to build Moustache powered planes, with Bhakts attached to wings and cow dung coating for stealth.


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I need the PAF to do my work powerpoint slides for me.

Seriously, does he film these after a couple of buhda pegs!?
 

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