Attack on Army School bus on Quetta-Khuzdar corridor— 6 Children martyred 43 injured.

[El Sidd]

Have u seen the way they celebrate the mutilated bodies of the innocent children of pakistan.? One of us has to become the dreaded monster to strike some fear of God in them.

A mosque full of worshippers will always strike fear of God in our enemy. We have a faithless coward enemy. Wars and tribulations are trials and we shall pass it and not fail it.

Ashraful Makhlooq nahi banna. radtion monster phir bhi razi ha. sahi chopaye jarahe ho chaudry saab

Ask this little child's mother . She will answer u .

a mother would be the last one regardless of faith. a father may but there will be 3 mothers before him.

 

[Starlord]

I am countering your anti-Baloch and anti-Pashtun bias which is disturbing to say the least.

Good, I hope that if only majority of Pakistani's have the same Bias and realize the root cause of the issue, we would have 100k more people alive, which include the loved ones you lost.
You are talking about how you lost people, while I am talking about how this whole loss could be avoided and still can be avoided.

 

[Starlord]

Remind me how do Muslims live in India? Yeah....

Bad, right? I know... Trust me I do, but despite the bad conditions, do you see any Indian Muslim or specifically Pashtoon's blowing up School kids? or random attacks on civilians ? remember what happen in APS? or remember how to take revenge of Lal Masjid how many civilians were butchered by the Majority pashtoon TTP ? show me one example of such from Indian Pashtoon's.

 

[RescueRanger]

Good, I hope that if only majority of Pakistani's have the same Bias and realize the root cause of the issue, we would have 100k more people alive, which include the loved ones you lost.

How can you claim that with so much certainty, what empirical information do have to support this hypothesis? I am still confused, what is your solution to this malaise that plagues Pakistan?

 

[El Sidd]

Dimensions are different. Pak is a very sensitive combo of 4 different races. We have seen hate stories in Bangladesh, Baluchistan, and KPK. Time for democracy, to bring the real elected members of society into the national assembly and make them answerable.

What 4 races? Stop projecting American problems onto Pakistan.

Pakistan has countless 'races' and lingual groups. Stop throwing Bangladesh at me, if it broke away because of British structure of aristo beurocracy not some darn race. Its still multicultural and multi ethnic.

So you will decide whose real and not the system in place? Do you imagine we send viceroys there?

 

[RescueRanger]

Bad, right? I know... Trust me I do, but despite the bad conditions, do you see any Indian Muslim or specifically Pashtoon's blowing up School kids? or random attacks on civilians ?

You really have a very limited understanding of how terrorism works inside Pakistan, I have discussed this at length - the drivers inside Pakistan didn't exist before 2000... What changed? Ask yourself that!

 

[hussain0216]

Crazy racism here. Explains well the ethnic conflicts inside Pakistan.

But the racism isn't coming from racial hatred

As Muslim and Pakistani we should all be equal

The racism is coming from the behaviour of Baloch and pashtuns which we are now forced to confront because it has become so degenerate and evil that these groups don't even show mercy to children
Or schools
Or travellers during Eid
Or barbers and labourers

Your sad, your poor wah wah I guess you better attack a school bus

Seriously I mean WTF

 

[HAIDER]

What 4 races? Stop projecting American problems onto Pakistan.

Pakistan has countless 'races' and lingual groups. Stop throwing Bangladesh at me, if it broke away because of British structure of aristo beurocracy not some darn race. Its still multicultural and multi ethnic.

So you will decide whose real and not the system in place? Do you imagine we send viceroys there?

We'd better stick 73 Constitution in its original shape.

 

[Starlord]

You really have a very limited understanding of how terrorism works inside Pakistan, I have discussed this at length - the drivers inside Pakistan didn't exist before 2000... What changed? Ask yourself that!

Actually its not true, you know that violence and terrorism is happening in Pakistan well before 2000's, even Benazir launched a military operations in Tribal areas, Baloch insurgency also exists before 2000's, yes today we have more organized groups like BLA/TTP, but before the violence was there and it was promoted only the label has change, and you should know this better than me as someone who served/serving people in LEA's.
My father used to work in Movie industry back in 80's from Lahore, and he used to tell us about when they have to shoot a song or scene in certain areas of today's KPK they have to be careful, and some cases needed Tribal permissions to shoot, or even bribe them for protection..
Ethnical violence was always there, TTP used Islam to recruit more Pashtoon, BLA used missing persons BS and independent Balochistan stuff, only the name has change violence and behaviors didn't.

 

[Abdul q]

Dimensions are different. Pak is a very sensitive combo of 4 different races. We have seen hate stories in Bangladesh, Baluchistan, and KPK. Time for democracy, to bring the real elected members of society into the national assembly and make them answerable.

For that munira will have to go home… i don’t see that happening…

 

[El Sidd]

We'd better stick 73 Constitution in its original shape.

And you have unilaterally made that decision for everyone else? What's with obsession to return to the past?

You want 21 year old population to go back to law framework from 50 years ago.

That must have taken quite long for you to come up. Any particular problem with the subsequent amendments? I am guessing the Islamic leaning ones introduced by Zia and subsequently ratified by others?

 

[RescueRanger]

Actually its not true, you know that violence and terrorism is happening in Pakistan well before 2000's

Incorrect again - you confuse political violence that was started by ZAB's interference in Balochistan in the 1960's and and the 1970's. Don't take my word for it, read any book on the history of Balochistan, there was a period of calm between 1990-2002. My question is what changed during this time?

My father used to work in Movie industry back in 80's from Lahore, and he used to tell us about when they have to shoot a song or scene in certain areas of today's KPK they have to be careful, and some cases needed Tribal permissions to shoot, or even bribe them for protection..

Bhatta/Bakshis existed in Karachi also. You may not remember but there used to be a nara in Karachi "TV, VCR becho, Kalashnakof Khareedo"... Who coined that, was it a Pashtun or a Baloch?

The point I am trying to make is, terrorists should be killed without mercy - no trial, no arrests, no plea bargains, wipe them out... But don't lump an entire ethnic group into the same basket just because of a segment of their number are extremist swine.

Because that is a very slippery slope, we have seen what happens if you go down this route and it never works out. This requires a two pronged solution:

1. A military/armed response that is robust against terrorists and militancy [Anti Terrorism]
2. A political solution to for the communities in that region, coupled with engagement/dialogue, education, jobs, finance, social uplift, mindset change [Counter-Terrorism].

There is no simple military solution to this problem. Sure in the short term the dividends will be there, but we need to aim for long term permanent solutions. In doing so we will remove any space for foreign or domestic hostile elements to ferment their vile and vicious ideology in the hearts and minds of impressionable young men and women.

 

[Starlord]

How can you claim that with so much certainty, what empirical information do have to support this hypothesis? I am still confused, what is your solution to this malaise that plagues Pakistan?

Well my solution has 2 steps
1) Launch massive military operations with brute force, somewhere along the lines of Sri lanka against the Tamil minus the R@pe or sexual assault of course.
2) build reductional camps, and make it mandatory for their kids to attend, over there teach them to be a decent Human being, promote Pakistani nationalism, completely ban Tribal system/Jirga's.

start from there and make your way to Masajid and Madarsas that harbor Afghans/TTP, anyone who even gives a hint of being supportive of BLA/TTP, send them to firing squads, put their women in jails and kids in reductional camps. Yes it will take a Generation, with some consequences but in long term it will bear fruits that will not only end Racism but also terrorism/Extremism from Pakistan.

 

[Abdul q]

Extra thread should be merged with existing attack on kid’s bus

 

[SteppeWolff]

The racism is coming from the behaviour of Baloch and pashtuns which we are now forced to confront because it has become so degenerate and evil that these groups don't even show mercy to children

You really are outta your depth here and have no idea about majority of Baloch and Pashtun.