Ukrainian drones hit a significant amount of Tu-95MS, Tu-22 M33 and A-50s(reportedly 40+ in total)

Strategic bombers are needed to reach enemy beyond regional airspace, you can't attack USA or Japan with drones, drones don't have a intercontinental range, It only good for nearby conflicts and don't tell me ICBMs can reach enemy at intercontinental range, yes they are but their trajectories can easily be predictable and can intercepted by advanced ABM systems
Agreed, maybe because the huge loose, Russia would eventually revamp the PakDa or FAL of Tu160M2.
 
The simple anwer to this drone problem is to build hangers for these large assets, and to have the planes in the hangers when they are not being used !!!!!

How much is a hanger? $1-2m ?? Is that such a heavy spend for a $200-300 million dollar asset ?????

This has to be a lesson for Pakistan given how lax airbase defence is for Pakistan. Look at the Erieye and P3C losses that Pakistan has suffered.

You can bet that India is now training her proxy terrorists to conduct this type of operation against Pakistan bases.


Do we know how big a hardened shelter for a Bomber would be? Take a look at the height of their vertical tail, the shelters would be at least 100 feet tall, the size of small sports stadiums.
 
An impressive operation. Russia isnt building the Tu-95 anymore although it did restart the Tu-160 line some years ago.

Pakistan needs to study these Ukrainian covert tactics because similar approaches will be needed against India.
 
You are talking about what a rational actor should act, Russian is all but rational at this point.

Let me give you an example, when I was in Ukraine I looked at some Russian (Around 20) captured off some off, none of them have an IFAK kit, you are talking about a $20 kit that can actually save a life in battlefield, how much is a Soldier worth to you? I bet it worth more than $20.

And you are talking about them building hardened structure to host that equipment.
Ukraine have surpassed many countries in drone warfare applications, they have used drones to infiltrate hangers, intercept other drones, and even attack helicopters and aircraft mid-flight. They are pushing boundaries in this domain.

The Air Force cannot put all aircraft inside hangers? Some aircraft are stationed outside to be launched on a moment's notice in times of war? Operation Spiderweb was carried out with the "element of surprise" and very capable drones were used. That Russian bases such as Belaya and Ukrainka were also hit... absolutely stunning.
 
Yes they are, don't lives in your utopia and fantasy world
Sorry, but I can't take someone who thinks ballistic missiles in 2025 follow a ballistic trajectory seriously. Go learn something first, then we will talk. Bye bye
 

Ukraine just rewrote the rules of war​


A drone attack damaged Russia’s bomber fleet — and exposed air base vulnerabilities worldwide.

On Sunday morning, Dec. 7, 1941, the Imperial Japanese Navy rewrote the rules of warfare. Almost no one had imagined that the Japanese could sneak across an entire ocean to attack an “impregnable fortress,” as U.S. strategists had described Hawaii. Yet that is just what they did.
In the process, the Ukrainians revealed a vulnerability that should give every general in the world sleepless nights. If the Ukrainians could sneak drones so close to major air bases in a police state such as Russia, what is to prevent the Chinese from doing the same with U.S. air bases? Or the Pakistanis with Indian air bases? Or the North Koreans with South Korean air bases?
 
Sorry, but I can't take someone who thinks ballistic missiles in 2025 follow a ballistic trajectory seriously. Go learn something first, then we will talk. Bye bye
Ah, know better than you, in recent Iran-Israeli conflict how many your ballistic missiles bypass American/EU and Israeli layered ABM systems


You fired 120 BMs on Israel only 7-8 bypassed layered ABM systems of coalition forces in the area rest were intercepted, that's means your out of this universe BMs had a successful rates of less than 1 %

Talked when you research on the topic and then post gibberish and nonsense
 
Ukraine have surpassed many countries in drone warfare applications, they have used drones to infiltrate hangers, intercept other drones, and even attack helicopters and aircraft mid-flight. They are pushing boundaries in this domain.

The Air Force cannot put all aircraft inside hangers? Some aircraft are stationed outside to be launched on a moment's notice in times of war? Operation Spiderweb was carried out with the "element of surprise" and very capable drones were used. That Russian bases such as Belaya and Ukrainka were also hit... absolutely stunning.
This war remind me of my own experience when I was in Afghanistan.

You never fear the enemy you have think they are as good as you, but you always fear the enemy think they are inferior and forced to adapt. Because once they do that, every book you read, everything about warfare you know stopped working, because they are writing a new chapter and they force you into their level.

We know drones, but we know how they are going to be used for us, but for the Ukrainian, most of the time this is what they have, which make them build their tactics around them,

This operation ended when they smuggle those drone into Russia, after that, there are no way you can stop them, they are going to hit something with it, and Russia this time is 2, maybe 3 step behind.
 
Apparently trucks were used to smuggle the drones close to the bases. Major intelligence operation by Ukraine and its European allies and major Russian intelligence failure at the same time. This kind of operation takes weeks even months to conduct. Probably Zelensky and his Europeans friends want to sabotage the talks which were scheduled for today in Istanbul. Russia had tacit Trump administration approval for a deal to stop the war but now it looks like Russian response is imminent. And the response can be tactical usage nuclear bombs.

This is major decisive development in this 3 years of Russia Ukraine war. Keep an eye on this. This is going to get very dirty moving forward if talks fail today in Istanbul.
Come on kid. This is not something that warrants a nuclear arms use.
 
In China, you cannot transfer large sum of UAVS without proper liscenses

An enemy is not going to apply for a license.

And no, you cannot smuggle large sum of exposive materials from outside of China,

China has a huge border. I am sure someone can smuggle anything if they are determined.
 
Ah, know better than you, in recent Iran-Israeli conflict how many your ballistic missiles bypass American/EU and Israeli layered ABM systems


You fired 120 BMs on Israel only 7-8 bypassed layered ABM systems of coalition forces in the area rest were intercepted, that's means your out of this universe BMs had a successful rates of less than 1 %

Talked when you research on the topic and then post gibberish and nonsense
You forgot the cost of strikes, that’s what the modren war revolves around…
 

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