j_hungary
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First of all, let's get one thing and one thing very straight. The MOST civilian casualty Russian/Soviet Union EVER created is not on some brown Muslim. It's going to be European, and if we classified by their religion, it's going to be more Christian being killed than Jew, then MuslimThis is from your quote:
While that include military death, the number OHCHR reported usually was wrong (usually by a factor of 1/4, read Gaza Casualty) Ukrainian official figure have that up to 300,000 civilian casualty (Dead and Wounded), most humanitarian organisations estimated between 40000 to 100,000 and UN renewed report put it between 13000 to 40000
Nobody trusts Ukrainian official figures. We all know how the world turned upside down in the first few weeks of Russian invasion: worldwide media tantrum, Russia getting sanctioned all over the place, global institutions which are supposed to stay out of controversy (e.g. sports organizations) jumped in with chest thumping. All these organizations are not bothered about Israel's genocide.
US, Europe, and Israel have been massacring hundreds of thousands of people in Asia, Africa for decades and it didn't bother anybody. But a few hundred people killed in Europe became a global catastrophe. Everything about the Ukraine war is hyped up by the Western media and it has lost all credibility.
I know it sounds racist but the global media puts European civilian deaths above other deaths around the world. Russia has been treating Ukraine with kid gloves compared to how it deliberately bombed civilians in Asia. I used to work with a Russian guy who bragged how his dad's unit dropped poison in Afghan rivers upstream from villages.
The single most Civilian Casualty event the Russian did to is Jew, it's pogrom is on par, if not exceeded Germany's Final Resolution, simply because it spanned over 50 years instead of 7, and that is the reason why Jew moved to Israel, it was started by the 1 million or so Russian Jew that space Russia.
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Then the second most civilian casualty the Russian cause is no doubt toward the German, Pole and Hungarian during WW2, there are no war in this world created more civilian casualty than WW2. And Russia is a big part of that. War in Afghanistan (both US or Russian version) Chechen, Albanian Masscare or even Rwanda Genocide is only a fraction of the civilian casualty, in fact, I am not even sure if we add those numbers together will ever exceed that number, and Russia had not particip[ate in any theatre other than European Threatre
Those are when Russia are the most Brutal both in war and in civility
And finally as I said, civilian casualty is hardly a measure on how brutal or how indiscriminate a war is, again, that's from a few different factor, for example, war in Vietnam will always have less civilian casualty than what the Israeli was doing in Gaza., not because of the American are less brutal toward the Vietnamese, but because VIetnam is a bigger country than Gaza, and people have room to move around, if you talk about the two war, the rules of engagement are similar because that was the war when US last have free fire zone, which mean you can indiscriminately attack Civilian population, we cant do that afterward, as we need to PID our target, and that is exactly the same rules of engagement the Israel had in Gaza. So if you ask me, both war have the same brutality., but vietnam civilian casualty is a lot smaller, you are looking at around 500,000 vietnamese civilian casualty in that 10 years war, to around 200,000 Gazan in that 2 years conflict.
And no, there are nothing Russian can do outside what they are doing now, because that warfare Russian is fighting in Ukraine is the least technological advance, that is WW1 and WW2 era warfare, if they have a choice they won't pump people like they were fighting in trench back in WW1. So no, there are no "If Russian is serious then......." You are not fighting WW1 and WW2 style unless you are dead set serious, in fact, it was so serious the last time the Russian fighting like they do now is when Germany was at the doorstep of Moscow, you have to be really serious to put resource and fight like they do back in WW1 and WW2. It's me saying "Hey, I want to fight like we were landing at Normandy because it's look heroic" well, you don't fight war because it look like whatever, if I had said that I will get a frag in my ass so quick that I wouldn't even able to finish that sentence
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