Pakistan-India Conflict 2025: News Updates and Discussion

[Fasbre2]

Neither the Indian government nor the Indian Air Force has made any official statement regarding the targeting of Pakistan’s nuclear weapons. However, the series of events that unfolded after the Indian strikes — including videos and satellite imagery — does suggest such an intention. I see nothing wrong in the destruction of Pakistan’s nuclear arsenal, as this step could free the subcontinent from the looming threat of nuclear conflict.

I also see absolutely nothing wrong in the destruction of India’s nuclear and conventional arsenal. In fact I see absolutely nothing wrong in the splitting up of India into small non threatening states. The world would be a much safer place. In fact there is nothing wrong in seeing the elimination of the extremist Hindutva lot, they have no place in a civilised world…

 

[Corax]

Because that would have caused escalation not warranted by anyone. Attacking highest military and political leaders is done only when one is ready for a full scale war.

10 Kms away is more than enough to drive home the point about capability if required. The same can’t be said for Pakistan.
Apart from tall claims on this forum and desperate attempts to link death of soldiers there is no proof of success of ground attacks.

So the indian side can claim "restraint" and not to "escalate", but when the Pak military does the same, it's "failure"?! Sure ok buddy, who's the guy buying his head into he sand now, bakht fanboy.

 

[Trailer23]

I thought Mig 29 was shot down by a JF 17 with PL-15

The guy wearing the JF-17 Patch is the OC of the No. 16 Squadron (Black Panthers).

Just because the Thunder didn't get any kills, doesn't mean they were part of the Operation.

Pretty soon, it'll all come out.

[Again] the JF-17 did take out the Two S-400's, but those were Block II from No. 14 Squadron (Tail Choppers) - out of Rafiqui.

 

[Zorawar Light Tank]

I also see absolutely nothing wrong in the destruction of India’s nuclear and conventional arsenal. In fact I see absolutely nothing wrong in the splitting up of India into small non threatening states. The world would be a much safer place. In fact there is nothing wrong in seeing the elimination of the extremist Hindutva lot, they have no place in a civilised world…

Although I support the denuclearization of the entire world, it is an established fact that countries like India, Russia, China, and the United States cannot be denuclearized through military force. These nations adhere to a no-first-use policy, and none of them are likely to use nuclear weapons in practice. Their nuclear arsenals exist primarily as a demonstration of strategic strength, not for actual use on the battlefield.

Any major military power—be it India, Russia, China, or the United States—will always maintain weapons of mass destruction, but they will never use them. These nations have declared no-first-use policy

 

[safriz]

We're talking about the recent conflict with India. Particularly the Aerial one.

If we're talking in general - there is matter of the S-400, which is credited to 02 JF-17's.

[regardless people wanna accept it - or f#*king not]​

But again, its about 6 Jets that were donwed.

Ok.
On this occasion. The kills had to be made at ranges never done before by anyone anywhere in the world in an air combat. A world's first.
The missiles should have been launched at higher altitude and high aircraft speed, for giving the missile largest possible initial speed .
J 10c can claim higher and faster than Thunder 3.
We can all thank the Indians for complaining to the Americans about Pakistan using F 16 and AIM 120 c5 against India, and Americans blocking Pakistan from doing so In future.
That's why Pakistan developed strategies for Long range use of PL 15 . or would still be firing AIM 120.
Because PAF has around 1200 of these in various flavors.

 

[Fatman17]

Ok.
On this occasion. The kills had to be made at ranges never done before by anyone anywhere in the world in an air combat. A world's first.
The missiles should have been launched at higher altitude and high aircraft speed, for giving the missile largest possible initial speed .
J 10c can claim higher and faster than Thunder 3.
We can all thank the Indians for complaining to the Americans about Pakistan using F 16 and AIM 120 c5 against India, and Americans blocking Pakistan from doing so In future.
That's why Pakistan developed strategies for Long range use of PL 15 . or would still be firing AIM 120.
Because PAF has around 1200 of these in various flavors.

Gallentry medals will be given to 15 16 and 24 sqdn

 

[Bratva]

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He is the guy who first broke J-10 news on the old def.pk forum. His analysis is on point

 

[PakShaheen_79]

In 2019, apparently the Indian strike wasn’t successful as the satellite evidence was lacking and the weapons used didn’t give any data feedback to provide evidence for the strike being successful.

Then came PAF with slick videos of getting a lock on Indian targets and then breaking the lock to make the bomb fall a little away to show the capability without causing any damage. Intent - Not to escalate but to show that capability exists.

Come to 2025.

7th May - India launched weapons to destroy few targets. Adequate proof was available to show its success.
PAF in turn shot down few fighters and the PAF AVM gave a slick presentation with all the data to prove his claim.

Few days later there was also a claim of a successful strike on S400 using CM400 missile. This time however, there was no proof provided about the success of this attack.
AVM kept silent about it most likely due to obvious reasons.
Fanboys, however came down in full force to declare it a success.

Let’s assume that the strike was a success.

If it was a success, why weren’t there any strikes done like last time in 2019? PAF did not launch any attack at all against any IAF bases.
Pathankot, Bathinda, Jaisalmer and many other bases are located within 100 Kms from the IB.
What stopped PAF from attacking these bases with standoff weapons? Considering that S400 strike was a success and the location of remaining S400 was known, PAF should have launched these attacks freely. But it didn’t.

The fact is that, PAF was severely restricted in carrying out its operations unlike what has been claimed.

Most people are wary of discussing this aspect.

OK. Let me spin this on its head. If S-400 was the reason why PAF didn't hit Indian AFB as claimed by you then how PAF was able to shoot down multiple IAF aircraft in India's own territory? Was S-400 sleeping on the night of May 7th when PAF was up against not only IAF fighters but S-400 both.

As for your claim that Pakistan couldn't hit any IAF bases your military spokesperson acknowledged not only Pakistani attack on Indian bases but also losses inflicted on Indian forces on at least 4 of its air bases.

 

[NationalistPKDude132]

Is it just me or the Field Marshal title shouldve been given to the Air Chief and Not Hafiz because Army was just shelling in LOC(not undermining their success)

 

[NationalistPKDude132]

OK. Let me spin this on its head. If S-400 was the reason why PAF didn't hit Indian AFB as claimed by you then how PAF was able to shoot down multiple IAF aircraft in India's own territory? Was S-400 sleeping on the night of May 7th when PAF was up against not only IAF fighters but S-400 both.

As for your claim that Pakistan couldn't hit any IAF bases your military spokesperson acknowledged not only Pakistani attack on Indian bases but also losses inflicted on Indian forces on at least 4 of its air bases.

There were also some confirmed attacks on the Rajouri Weapon depot

 

[TAC]

Because that would have caused escalation not warranted by anyone. Attacking highest military and political leaders is done only when one is ready for a full scale war.

10 Kms away is more than enough to drive home the point about capability if required. The same can’t be said for Pakistan.
Apart from tall claims on this forum and desperate attempts to link death of soldiers there is no proof of success of ground attacks.

More Coping. Wants to talk about the shading of the walls but avoid the elephant in the room

 

[Corax]

Although I support the denuclearization of the entire world, it is an established fact that countries like India, Russia, China, and the United States cannot be denuclearized through military force. These nations adhere to a no-first-use policy, and none of them are likely to use nuclear weapons in practice. Their nuclear arsenals exist primarily as a demonstration of strategic strength, not for actual use on the battlefield.

India is not on the same level as those countries, don't delude yourself with too much cow urine. Paks policy is ambiguity, rather like Israel's, so by your logic, we should denuclearise Israel by force too? Why didn't you try it on this occasion? What stopped you?

 

[Zorawar Light Tank]

The guy wearing the JF-17 Patch is the OC of the No. 16 Squadron (Black Panthers).

Just because the Thunder didn't get any kills, doesn't mean they were part of the Operation.

Pretty soon, it'll all come out.

[Again] the JF-17 did take out the Two S-400's, but those were Block II from No. 14 Squadron (Tail Choppers) - out of Rafiqui.

Any loss of military assets in India cannot be concealed. If there had been any damage to the S-400 system, Indian military and government would have been the first to acknowledge it. India cannot be viewed through a Pakistani lens, where the military holds dominant control over the state. Culturally and structurally, India is fundamentally different from Pakistan.

 

[Trailer23]

Although I support the denuclearization of the entire world, it is an established fact that countries like India, Russia, China, and the United States cannot be denuclearized through military force. These nations adhere to a no-first-use policy, and none of them are likely to use nuclear weapons in practice. Their nuclear arsenals exist primarily as a demonstration of strategic strength, not for actual use on the battlefield.

Any major military power—be it India, Russia, China, or the United States—will always maintain weapons of mass destruction, but they will never use them. These nations have declared no-first-use policy

Good Lord.

You just spoke like a Miss Universe contestant who wants to use her breast for World Peace.

You seem pretty adamant on the whole Denuclearization - especially when it comes to Pakistan.

Q. What are your thoughts on Denuclearing India?

Beta..., bring your A-Game or run along to .

 

[NationalistPKDude132]

Any loss of military assets in India cannot be concealed. If there had been any damage to the S-400 system, Indian military and government would have been the first to acknowledge it. India cannot be viewed through a Pakistani lens, where the military holds dominant control over the state. Culturally and structurally, India is fundamentally different from Pakistan.

Because it is easy to hide these damages. We actually only targeted your Cheeseboard Radar and not the whole system. Thats why modi was able to go to adampur and show off the S-400 but thats really not anything if you dont show the radar itself