JF-17 - Updates, News & Discussion

[Aziqbal]

we have seen serial 324

 

[Aziqbal]

Their is no longer any line in China

The only existing line is In Pakistan

Restarting the line in China requires more investment and then you have to have a idea of confirmed orders etc to make it worth while

I don't believe their will be any more lines in China

At best we can open a second line in Pakistan, if we think we can later move everything over to the PFX with the idea of a lot of export orders to multiple countries who have been frozen out of the 5th Gen market


For the moment this is all we have,

If Pakistan can produce 24 fighters per year, then we might as well keep a few for ourselves and the rest for export, especially if the follow on rumours of order from other countries turn out to be true, the line will be active for the next 5-10 years and we can concentrate on the PFX

And in the meantime just induct J10s and J35s

This is also why the F16s are still important for the moment

the maximum PAC has done is 16-217 to 16-234 that's 18 units in 2016

block 2 production ended in 2018

18-251 to 18-262 thats 12 units

26 x JF17B + 50 x JF17 Block 3 should've been delivered by now they had over 7 years

but they only did just over 20 x Block 3 for some strange and every bizarre reason

 

[Oscar]

the maximum PAC has done is 16-217 to 16-234 that's 18 units in 2016

block 2 production ended in 2018

18-251 to 18-262 thats 12 units

26 x JF17B + 50 x JF17 Block 3 should've been delivered by now they had over 7 years

but they only did just over 20 x Block 3 for some strange and every bizarre reason

Specs changed
Production capacity for intl orders
Blk-3 wasn’t enough
Moving onto next line

 

[MastanKhan]

Hi,

After this conflict---how many pakistani superstars think that the JF17 still need the canon---?

 

[RafaleSlayer]

Hi,

After this conflict---how many pakistani superstars think that the JF17 still need the canon---?

old debate, but JF17 cannon is for ground attack

 

[Tariq Habib Afridi]

Specs changed
Production capacity for intl orders
Blk-3 wasn’t enough
Moving onto next line

Moving onto next line means moving to PFX? that would effect PAF plans for upgrades?

 

[MastanKhan]

old debate, but JF17 cannon is for ground attack

Hi,

We should leave it to the less capable aircraft.

The capabilitity that the BLK 3 has shown---using it for ground strikes makes it vulnerable to enemy SA missiles---thus losing the technology.

The canon is just a wastage of space on the aesa equipped BLK3---.

 

[RafaleSlayer]

Hi,

We should leave it to the less capable aircraft.

The capabilitity that the BLK 3 has shown---using it for ground strikes makes it vulnerable to enemy SA missiles---thus losing the technology.

The canon is just a wastage of space on the aesa equipped BLK3---.

I agree, may be on the block 3 we can use that hard point for an additional missile or pod. Block 1 & 2 will be used to provide CAS to ground troops and can keep their gun.

 

[ghazi52]

 

[Eshay101]

Still a very large number of Block 2 being upgraded to Block 3 Standard
Block 1's can still remain active

Even the Block 1 at one point were targeted to be upgraded to block 2 levels

Public domain info

Model	Count
JF-17 Block I	50	MLU to Block 2 Standard
JF-17 Block 2	62	Up-gradable (90% to Block 3)
JF-17 Block 2B	26	Up-gradable
JF-17 Block 3	23	Ideal Standard
JF-17 Block 3	27	Ideal Standard, Under Construction

The JF17 Thunder will continue to get refined

Only official press release can confirm if every craft is officially at Block 2 Level and when will Block 1 terminology would be unnecessary, Block 1 already has a good operational History so there is no Loss there

Is there any evidence of a MLU being applied to PAF's Block-1's and Block-2's?
Also what could be included in the MLU?

 

[MastanKhan]

Is there any evidence of a MLU being applied to PAF's Block-1's and Block-2's?
Also what could be included in the MLU?

Hi,

BLK1 were updated to BLK2 standards---.

Paf does not let the public know about its upgrades---. We only know what they have done is when they want to tell us---.

And secondly---the upgrades are always with the best possible options available

 

[ghazi52]

 

[Pakistan Space Agency]

Are there any images of JF-17 aircraft produced in 2024 and 2025 ?

None whatsoever for now.

 

[Pakistan Space Agency]

@Aziqbal

Annual Production of JF-17 Thunders

Year​	Produced​	Block​	Air Force​
2007​	05​	1​	PAF​
2008​	03​	1​	PAF​
2009​	04​	1​	PAF​
2010​	16​	1​	PAF​
2011​	08​	1​	PAF​
2012​	06​	1​	PAF​
2013​	08​	1​	PAF​
2014​	-​	-​	PAF​
2015​	11​	2​	PAF​
2016​	16​	2​	PAF​
2017​	25​	2​	PAF (17) MAF (8)​
2018​	06​	2​	PAF​
2019​	18​	2 & 3​	PAF (15) NAF (03)​
2020​	14*​	2​	PAF​
2021​	01​	3​	PAF​
2022​	15*​	3​	PAF​
2023​	06*​	3​	PAF​
Total​	162​	-​	-​

• * Where figures are "assumed", this is due to missing or incomplete serial numbers, yearly numbers could change.
• It is assumed that the first two Block-3 prototypes (3000 and 3001) were produced in 2019 and 2021 respectively, and they were later inducted into the PAF.

Please point out any anomalies in the data if you come across any.

 

[hussain0216]

@Aziqbal

Annual Production of JF-17 Thunders

Year​	Produced​	Block​	Air Force​
2007​	05​	1​	PAF​
2008​	03​	1​	PAF​
2009​	04​	1​	PAF​
2010​	16​	1​	PAF​
2011​	08​	1​	PAF​
2012​	06​	1​	PAF​
2013​	08​	1​	PAF​
2014​	-​	-​	PAF​
2015​	11​	2​	PAF​
2016​	16​	2​	PAF​
2017​	25​	3​	PAF (17) MAF (8)​
2018​	06​	2​	PAF​
2019​	18​	2 3​	PAF (15) NAF (03)​
2020​	14*​	2​	PAF​
2021​	01​	3​	PAF​
2022​	15*​	3​	PAF​
2023​	06*​	3​	PAF​
Total​	162​	-​	-​

• * Where figures are "assumed", this is due to missing or incomplete serial numbers, yearly numbers could change.
• It is assumed that the first two Block-3 prototypes (3000 and 3001) were produced in 2019 and 2021 respectively, and they were later inducted into the PAF.

Please point out any anomalies in the data if you come across any.

The Nigerians got Block 3s?