Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[Salza]

I have been a member of the old pdf forum long before you even know it existed so both of us know that between the two of us, there is only one person thats wearing diapers. Whether it was hogwash or not, atleast they showed balls back then and btw, which country besides Iran has even done that in the recent past? There was a similar trend when India attacked Pakistan even most of the hard-core army supporters were disappointed and weren't expecting a major retaliation like Banyan ul Marsoos

Forget old pdf I was part of that forum for 15 years anyways. What balls ? Israel kept hitting them, their scientists, Hamas chief , bombings than what ? Few ballistic missiles with no impact? Had indian did it at official level you would had seen proper response from us. Even in 2019 when they threw spice bombs on some random trees in a forest, you witness our retaliation very next day. For Iran, this was always coming. It's embarrassing to see that they looked so unprepared and clueless.

 

[OldTwilight]

To my countrymen don't lose your morale, this is the first day of the war, martyrdom some old generals won't shaken us ( they weren't NADER or SHAH ABBAS or Abbas Mirza )

This just the first phase and the enemy uses all it have.

any traitor who talk about peace should be executed.

 

[SteppeWolff]

Scott Ritter said several months ago something like 'Iran should ride it out until the Trump Presidency ends. Swallow the bitter pill. Comply until Trump goes away. Because Israelis know many weaknesses of the Iranian state. Look at how Hezbollah was gravely damaged. Look at how Assad was toppled'.
Scott's message was to ride it out because he, being a well wisher of Iran and Palestinians, clearly saw that under a Trump Presidency, Israel would get almost whatever it would ask for. NO OTHER American President, not even Biden, the self-proclaimed 'I am the biggest Zionist in the world', had given such approval to Israel before. None since 1979. None!
But Scott was chewed out by the liberal and the pro Palestinian media. He was called 'compromised' and a 'sell out'.
It is astonishing how little people know about how the much Israel relies on the American political system and how much the very personality of an American President influences foreign policy AND how little a VP's role in countering whatever the President wants.

IRI cant "ride it out". Not when your 3 top generals got whacked, all major cities hit, attack on civillians that resulted in probably hundreds of civilians martyred, nuclear facilities, radar facilities, missile facilities hit. A war is being waged on IRI, it cant run from it. Either they'll gave a proportionate response or it'll be the end of IRI in medium to long term.

 

[A1Kaid]

Major intelligence failure by Iran. Top military brass being killed in their beds in Tehran when there were clear warnings of an attack.

What is the government doing there?

 

[Persian Gulf]

can someone estimate how much it will cost our crippled economy to recover from this disaster?

lets worry about economy if we survive the war first

 

[arjunk]

Where is the Iran airforce?

Iran Airforce is nonexistent. Iran relies on ground launched missiles/drones similar to India.

 

[Persian Gulf]

Major intelligence failure by Iran.

story of the last 50 years

 

[ShapurII]

lets worry about economy if we survive the war first

The US dollar has already reached 100K again.
And there will soon be shortage of water, food and electricity.

The IR is done if it doesn't win this war.
And they don't seem to be capable of winning the war.

This could very well be the regime change they have eyed for decades.

 

[BigMela2onin]

Since the Saudi-Iranian reapproachment they have been advicing Iran to just chill out for 2-3 decades,

For 2-3 decades? lol, "Israel" will kill all 90 million Iranians in that time

Iran try to chill out but it could not reverse some of it´s policies from 2010s. All the smart folks in the region know that Israel won´t be here until 2050 hence Iran´s early obsession with them was little bit strange instead of sit, observe, develope etc etc.

Who's is going to make them go away? The Arabs or Turks?

I was listening to some folks trying to talk down Egypt or Turkey etc etc. Why Doesn´t Egypt Invade Israel was question or Turkey etc etc but the answer is simple Egypt nor Turkey is ready to take on NATO bloc lead at this stage or timeline which is a simple fact, which means they are being smart.

And they never will be because they're not working towards it, they're waiting on their turn to be targeted.

I think but in few decades the political landscape will change naturally and automatically.

Why do you believe this? What is going to bring this change?

 

[StrategicBear]

I wonder how China's military would have handled this attack? China has stealth fighters, a dense AD network, huge numbers of counter-stealth radars and an insane number of hypersonics, drones, and LACMs. How do you guys think China could have easily defeated an Israeli attack on this scale and responded within an hour???

 

[OldTwilight]

USE IT OR LOSE IT FOREVER

THERE IS NO TIME TO SIT AND DRINK TEA AND CONSIDER OPTIONS, NEXT STEPS SHOULD HAVE ALREADY BEEN PLANNED IN ADVANCE

We should declare marshal law and mobilize all army force to secure all critical site , now mossad agents are going to act ...

 

[Persian Gulf]

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[Falcon29]

Except for Israel to fly over your airspace, pathetic government.
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Jordanian government: We will not allow our airspace to be violated, and we will not be a battleground for any conflict.

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[vmro]

we can infer the answer from the total lack of response

Omg...I can't figure out any decapitation of Iran...there are many generals left, this situation could create national heroes...for now is only important functional central authority, but revenge should not be prolonged...it would be too much...last diabolical efforts of the wounded beast....

Somehow, I am sure that someone from the inside Iranian deeper state is heavily involved, what should be immediately considered as well as neutralized...but, that's just me...

 

[Persian Gulf]

We should declare marshal law and mobilize all army force to secure all critical site , now mossad agents are going to act ...

every second we delay gives them more time to prepare to defend

the one who attacks first can always draw blood

Hamas attacked first and killed 1400+ Israelis in a few days

so far we killed 0 Israelis