Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[Ali_Baba]

that's not true. they cannot destroy our underground missile bases, they can just temporarily damage the entrance tunnels

we launched 5 waves of missile strikes yesterday from the same bases

Yep.

Israel seems to be a) focussing on destroying entrances which slow down launch rates, and b) destroying all the launchers it can find. Without launcher, those missiles are quite useless and this is an Achilles heel for ballistic missiles as a conventional capability.

 

[Oldenwisdom...قول بزرگ]

The Americans helped Iran acquire laser isotope enrichment in 1975. Iran was the 3rd country in the world to have that technology after the US and the Soviets. They sent us 93% enriched uranium for Tehran's research reactor. They sold Iran F-14s and even were about to deliver us two aircraft carriers had the revolution not happened.

The Americans are doing the same with the Saudis now.

If you remain under the US control, the Americans do not mind sharing technology with you. The important thing is to stay under their control.

If Iran becomes pro-Israel and defends Israel, 90% of their problem with Iran will vanish over night.

You're mixing stuff up... Iran was bulwark against Soviet expansion. No sooner than the collapse of Soviet Union would that policy flip on its head.
Pakistan was hit with pressler amendment while being an ally and fighting Soviets. You cannot have mass, people and land, resources and power to project militarily. Egypt is dependent on US largesse and in return bent the knee... Watches Gazans being destroyed. All the GCC Arabs are unstable regimes... who buy weapons for vanity and live under the thumb... they're the regional Satan's minions pushing it's agendas. Iran could have resources and mass but never military power! It would be destabilized incessantly.

 

[tower9]

Similar language was used with Pak v India and Chind did a lot. Do not underestimate Chinese diplomatic language, they do not mouth off like the US/israel

Chinese people communicate very subtlely but are serious in their actions. Unlike MOST OTHER COUNTRIES (Western countries, Middle Eastern, India etc who are loud mouths with no action behind it)

I think if Wang Yi, who is basically at the core of power in China, is telling Netanyahu to his face that China will defend Iran, then that means China is going to take serious action in doing that. Otherwise, you would have heard a mealy mouthed talk about "being concerned" like you got from Modi.

We'll see what happens. I think this means China will be supplying Iran with critical military supplies at the VERY LEAST.

 

[Brutal.]

If any country can face cruel israel among all the muslim countries in these times, its Iran. All muslim countries need to back them or wait for their turn. The US-israel alliance wont stop until they neutralize all strong muslim countries and Pakistan could be next after Iran.

 

[Viet]

Russia is a bad ally, that is why it is not doing anything. Look at how China helped Pakistan with the standoff with India.

Iran needs to make up with China and rely on it as an ally.

yes, China probably a more reliable ally because China has a massive industrial complex
but I am not sure the Chinese love the Mullahs, in the same way they love Putin.
in my opinion the russians just have a bigger mouth.
I am little shocked of the weakness of Iran military.
The Israelis military has proven again they are world class, nobody comes close.

 

[Fatman17]

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[That_Guy]

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200 missiles and 200 drones

very very low numbers... far from the 10,000 they promised...

200 drones in particular is hard to fathom. are our stocks of drones this low? we should be launching that many drones and missiles per hour.

Perhaps they're preparing for a longer war, and want to make sure that Iran has some amount it can fire off every day for at least a few weeks.

The Israelis claim Iran only has roughly 2,000 missiles, others claims roughly 5,000 to 10,000 missiles.

Regardless, between losing them to Israeli strikes, or wanting to preserve them for a longer war, Iran doesn't have the means to fire off more than a few dozen at a time.

And again, this is why maintaining a fleet of modern fighters is so vital. Even if they wouldn't be able to shoot down a single Israeli jet, they'd at least present a threat, and force Israeli fighters further back, not allowing them the air superiority that Israel now enjoys over Iranian skies.

 

[Bilal]

Chinese people communicate very subtlely but are serious in their actions. Unlike MOST OTHER COUNTRIES (Western countries, Middle Eastern, India etc who are loud mouths with no action behind it)

I think if Wang Yi, who is basically at the core of power in China, is telling Netanyahu to his face that China will defend Iran, then that means China is going to take serious action in doing that. Otherwise, you would have heard a mealy mouthed talk about "being concerned" like you got from Modi.

We'll see what happens. I think this means China will be supplying Iran with critical military supplies at the VERY LEAST.

The alliance has to protect the region from falling. If you understand what I mean. Time has come to assert in the region.

 

[TallGuy]

How Much CHina is dependent on Iranian Fuel Supply??

because if its large amount then Fall of Iran, will be catastrophic for China, it is bound to intervene. if oil facilities and ability to export oil is destroyed or even damaged severely.

If Mr. Yang Wi is calling come calling - things will change drastically. t depends on the Chinese interest.

 

[R2D2]

Pakistan, China, Russia and North Korea should send anti aircraft weapons along with operators to Iran.

 

[That_Guy]

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Honestly sounds like cope.

 

[Blueishere]

Iranian President phones Pak PM and tells him Israel will get more severe response

Iran missiles cause multiple casualties after strikes in Israel

Strikes hit central and north Israel as the Israeli military carries out further attacks in Iran.

www.bbc.co.uk

Genuinely starting to feel like Pakistan and China are starting to openly side with Iran now

Is there any proof of this?

 

[Pakistan Space Agency]

The longer the war goes the deeper hole Iran digs itself into.

The US is putting Iran in a position where it only leads to regime change.

 

[Falcon29]

Sanctions What? Iran weapons sanctions were lifted five years ago. You just don't buy it

Doubtful. China would not sell to Iran to not upset US/Israel/Arabs/EU.

Didn't Iran order Russian jets and Russia never delivered them?

 

[That_Guy]

Pakistan, China, Russia and North Korea should send anti aircraft weapons along with operators to Iran.

No, they should not. It would end up being a wider war.