Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[koolio]

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[Davey Crockett]

Something to track the next few days.....

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[Watandar]

lol...
Iran would get nothing by attacking first but the blame. Iran should never provide a cause to get attacked.

counterpoint: Iran is going to get the blame anyway no matter what. Does anybody remember it was Israel that attacked Iran ? Nobody in the world seems to remember it and just blames Iran for everything.

 

[PakAl]

But maybe Israel will not care about a retrenched Iran?

Israel wants to harm and remove the mullah regime of Iran. They want their puppet in power so they will continue to harm Iran but for Iran its best to go defensive and come back stronger.

 

[Meengla]

Pakistan is well on it's way to joining the Abraham Accords, in conjunction with Saudi Arabia. Maybe you have missed the signals but they are all there. The establishment believes it will reduce the threat from Israel to them and instead they will be able to use Israeli tech against India. But that's off topic so wont go any further.

Yes, 'the establishment', 'the generals'. Tells me something!!
Bookmark this and let me know when/if Pakistan joins the Abrahamic Accord without a just solution to the Palestinian issue, okay??

 

[Persian Gulf]

What is the status of Fordow 2 (Natanz Enrichment Hall) and Fordow 3 (the one you alluded too).

It’s almost like Trump is obsessed with knocking out Fordow because the media thinks it can’t be done.

100% he will attack. Claim it’s been destroyed and only he could have done it (not Obama or Biden or Kamala). Then he will want to be done with the war and move on to his next shiny toy.

New Natanz is under construction for some time, it's a huge facility so I imagine takes many years

'Fordow 3' is the rumoured Qazvin site. they said it was ready for centrifuges to be installed. so it is built already. they should move the HEU and some centrifuges there if they can

but if Israel/US goes for commando raids then no facility is safe

Then what else is dropping 500lb and 1000lb bombs?

ALBM or stand off cruise missiles?

F-35 is obviously very capable too if they want to risk it

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whats this?

can any of you chaps explain, to non-military layman

they usually self destruct if they can't hit a target but here looks like some kind of failure

 

[Ali_Baba]

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And Pakistan will dismantle Israel .

 

[That_Guy]

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OSINTT says this was no interception

Good chance Israel is almost out of interceptors and are now using them in vital areas until Daddy USA can resupply them.

 

[Mighty_Dragon_Strike]

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really like eating one's words...
says alot!

 

[KingQamaR]

Well, Pakistani nukes are a long term threat and one major reason is being Pakistan will NEVER accept the state of Israel short of a just solution to the Israel-Palestinian conflict. But there are voices in Pakistan who even say that Pakistan should never accept Israel even if the Israelis agree to the 2002 Saudi Peace Plan for Israel-Palestine.
Pakistan is in the spotlight since the recent India-Pakistan conflict. And I believe Pakistan's profile has risen quite high globally after the recent skirmish with India and so does the profile of Pakistan's nukes in the context of the ongoing Israel-Iran war. And you can count on the Indians to keep bringing up Pakistan's nukes in order to try to neutralize the Pakistani nukes. And maybe that's not necessarily bad spotlight to be in!
We are certainly living in an interesting, albeit dangerous time.

Me personally. Pakistanis recognition of Israel will not halt these creatures from trying declawing us. It was no coincidence to me in a very short time 2 powerful Islamic country’s Pakistan and Iran were in a conflict. Pakistan went first round with India. Did not work out the way Tel Aviv and Washington planned it. Sadly iran turn came next and is now facing those creatures on its own. My text book says give Iran a nuke to stop this madness. Save Iran and save yourselves, Iran is buying us time sooner or later Zionists creatures are going to land on your shores.

 

[Goenitz]

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OSINTT says this was no interception

were they vaporised? they glow before breaking apart. any non-visible laser!

 

[Persian Gulf]

Good chance Israel is almost out of interceptors and are now using them in vital areas until Daddy USA can resupply them.

I think not easy for USA to supply them since USA does not produce Arrow or David's Sling interceptors

and they already have 2/7 THAAD batteries in Israel

and they are already heavily helping with SM-3s

 

[Meengla]

Israel wants to harm and remove the mullah regime of Iran. They want their puppet in power so they will continue to harm Iran but for Iran its best to go defensive and come back stronger.

But what if the 'mullah regime' of Iran is retrenched?? The policies since 1979, if they get reversed, then maybe Iran would be left alone while Israel consolidates its gains in the large tract of land to its east and west.

 

[Aggregate]

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whats this?

can any of you chaps explain, to non-military layman

Its a self destruct. The question is, why the missile was launched when it had nothing to attack and thus why the need to self destruct in the end ?

To answer that, you can see the trend from the last 4 days. This is the 5th time this has happened with Israeli AD systems. They fire for no reason and then self destruct. 2 Reasons are given for it:

1: False Identification : A glitch causes false identification, missile launches and then they destroy it to keep it from hitting anything else
2: Cyberattacks: A lot of people are claiming Iran is sabotaging Israeli ADs into these self firings for no reason. Sometimes it also accompanies false Air Raid Sirens when infact nothing is approaching, which points to cyberattacks on the C&C systems.

 

[Tehrani021]

Yes, 'the establishment', 'the generals'. Tells me something!!
Bookmark this and let me know when/if Pakistan joins the Abrahamic Accord without a just solution to the Palestinian issue, okay??

I have the reciepts for this and Israel attacking Pakistan to take out its nuke program. We will see.