Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

These idiots still think killing the leadership will win them the war.

Khameini was already on the verge of retirement anyway, killing him literally doesn't matter.
Actually that will be the biggest mistake they will do in this war. He is a marja for more than half of shia brothers in the world. marja is like imam abu haneefa live for sunni. These will bring all his followers into this war. Than nothing and no one will be safe.
 
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Not really last ones are also in dire need if their air carriers can count on any protection and price is astronimically high for those and production rates are even slower then for land based launchers.
I'm assuming they're willing to expend their left over ammo in the protection of Israel, and ignore their own self-interest as a nation, which honestly seems to be the case.

There are quite a number of scholars that have said that it won't be Russia or China that causes the death of the US empire, but rather it will be Israel that kills it in its obsession to take the region under its hegemony backed by US fire power.
 
I wonder what concessions Trump will ask of the Iranians if they agree to negotiate?

No less than complete surrender, meaning complete end of nuclear reactors and all the materials, aftet this war they may even ask for long and medium range missiles, like they did to Iraq to protect Papa.
 
Would be nice if the world didn't take every tweet / Fakebook / Instagram / Tiktok / what ever social media site as gospel.
It would be even better if the world didn't take every western press release, thinktank analysis and western so called experts as holy gospel
 
Americans need time to creat a false flag sitation and justify their invasion.

AT this point Israelis are hitting anything to score points but they know they have failed miserably to achieve their goals......Iranian facilities are somewhat demaged and will take few months to repair and Yes they CANNOT stop Iranians from making bomb now.

Their goal was the regime change hoping to kill top leaders and generals will cause Iranian nation to rise up....not a single demonstration took place and they failed there as well.

At this point killing Ayotollah will be counter productive as some one who forbade Nuclear bomb will be replaced by a hard liner who will order full speed development ahead.

Shia uprising is certain in case of Ayotollah and the entire region will explode.......Israelis will retreat to their occupied land and leave the mess for Americans to deal with for the next few decades......

Are Americans that stupid to fall for this Zioniist plan???
1000% correct
The goal was regime change, so far no cigar! Zip.....exactly the opposite, it has united Iranians.
Also, they never thought we'd be able to regroup and hit back....they were wrong again.
Third, they were sure the US would get in early....which would mean less casualties for them.....wrong on that part too.
Iran needs a multi prong strategy......it needs to gear up for the Strait of Hormuz, it needs to gear up for taking out the airbases of UAE and Qatar....perhaps even Saudi Arabia.
Lastly, Iran needs to get rearmed from China or Russia, or even N. Korea.
On the smaller fronts...it needs to park a battalion near Azerbaijan as a warning....or where ever they think is the most porous exit point for the Mossad...they need to head them off from returning safely.
 
Where is hizbullah??

The way I see it is they are dismantled largely. That pager attack really was brutal and then leadership decapitated. Remaining ones are afraid to go against Israel as they fear Israel will turn Lebanon as Gaza. They used to get support from Iran via Syria now that route is gone too. But, I think if War with Iran continues then Hezbullah might try to reorganize.
 
In Pakistan, 95% people have positive opinion about both Iran and Saudi Arabia. They don’t get involved in your personal fights and are well wisher for both countries.

If you notice, Pakistan is 80% Sunni but it has voted for Shia political parties in 1960s, 1971, 1988, 1990s and 2008. The PPP is ruling Pakistan’s second largest province since 2008 and most of its leadership is Shia.

We usually tilt towards Arab world due to our internal issues, our scholars often have close relationships with Arab countries and the Arab countries have helped us with free oil, oil with deferred payments, loans and politically… otherwise it comes to opinion about Iran or Saudi Arabia, most people prefer to stay neutral and are well wisher for both


And I hope this remains. Unfortunately nowadays there are a lot of wanna be liberals and “free thinkers” who like to ridicule the fact that we support Arabs and Turks and Iranians.

They look at our vision of one Ummah as a joke. They look at things like wearing a thoub or speaking Arab words as “slavery” yet same people are wearing jeans singing western songs

Sorry a bit of a rant but I hope Pakistani public always remains well wishers of the Ummah and not fall into this divisive trap
 
Great insight. I recently went to Gettysburg, took the tour and walked the battlefield. It’s a series of small hills and one large one around the town. Both sides could not see the other literally bidding behind one long hillock. The battle hinged on short distance of a mile between the armies and the third day decided by one army capturing a hill 10 minutes before the other army could arrive. Having see the slaughter at Gettysburg really hit home the war to Lincoln. The causalities as a proportional of the combatants were a small percentage, unlike what we would have believed considering the significance of the battle. His famous address was only a few minutes long, but considering Gettysburg was fought in the north, its ramifications really hit home.

If a war with Iran does happen, it might be too late, as the ramifications may echo for decades, including here at home in the US, just like Iraq still bogs us down in personnel but also trillions in debt, stabilizing a region and paying for a war fought on a false pretext, when we are energy independent ourselves.

Ironically I was listening to the full audiobook of Trump’s Art of the deal during my trip to understand the man better.
I should dislike you now. I was born and raised in Pennsylvania. In Erie. And not once did I ever get to Gettysburg. Now that I am retired, that is on the list.

In all seriousness, congrats on your visit to the Monument. I am actually jealous. Friends of mine who've been there have said similar. I though the same walking through the American Cemetery in Normandy. Lincoln was in a "damned if he does, damned if he doesn't" predicament. Still the bloodiest war in US history. Even today, there are areas in the Deep South where they've not gotten over it.
 
People have pointed out here, and they have a point, that the US does not manufacture David's Sling, Arrow, and Iron Dome missiles. So no, they can't restock them.
No, Arrow is a jointly designed and produced by Boeing and David Sling is jointly designed and produced by Raytheon.

 
Oh, I know she's still anti-Pakistan, it's just the pain she's going through that excites me.

Must be painfull for all these "south asia expert" to find out that the other parties too have weapons and know how to use them.

First with india and now isreal. I really really hope the iranians pound these settlers hard enogh to knock some sense into their twisted minds like we did with indians.
 
I'm assuming they're willing to expend their left over ammo in the protection of Israel, and ignore their own self-interest as a nation, which honestly seems to be the case.

There are quite a number of scholars that have said that it won't be Russia or China that causes the death of the US empire, but rather it will be Israel that kills it in its obsession to take the region under its hegemony backed by US fire power.
Have to agree with that they do not act rational with them, it is politicpatic situation where any logic and rules is non existent.
 

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