Pakistan-India Conflict 2025: News Updates and Discussion

A lot of western air forces, militaries, and intelligence agencies will be VERY keen to get more details from the PAF. In my view, this is one of the main reasons we heard a change in tone from Trump, and wooing Asim Munir. Don't be surprised to see the PAF involved in a lot more air force exercises with western forces. But, Pakistan needs to be careful. They've already revealed far too much capability in the most spectacular manner, and that could make them targets just as easily.
Agreed. As Pravin Sawhney has observed, this conflict has given a tremendous overnight boost to Pakistan military’s standing abroad.
 
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Not an impartial YouTuber. Very pro US / anti anything Chinese. Hence you won’t find him analysing all the crash site evidence but when the Dassault CEO shamelessly tries to toe the Indian line, for obvious reasons, u get a video from him - best avoided.
 
I thought Admins can trace every members IP address... shouldn't be difficult then to smell out a slumdog stray .
The fact that we allow the slumdogs to come and infest this place...at our choosing! reflects the whole "restraint" mindset.
 
Ok frenchie let me break this down for you ..

I only consider information briefing from PAF as accurate. Don’t care what you post or any one else for that matter. If PAF claims it shot down 6 then six is the number…


As some one who has followed PAF for a long time I have very rarely ever seen them making a mistake or false comments. For eg PAF claimed destruction of the entire Mig21 squadron on the ground in 1965…

do you know when the Indians accepted that ? In the year 2000 in an article in India today …. Decades later…

now run along and buy some tissues as China is set to become the number one manufacture in every thing while you people will be happy to sell a few Peugeot cars to Lebanese Christian’s and fags
6?
another day 10 ?
My bet is that PAF received during this air campaign a lesson. It is what is linking from all the west services.
Nationalism and nation proud (something good at some extent) let you a little bit blind.
 
Not an impartial YouTuber. Very pro US / anti anything Chinese. Hence you won’t find him analysing all the crash site evidence but when the Dassault CEO shamelessly tries to toe the Indian line, for obvious reasons, u get a video from him - best avoided.
And all the contributors here are impartial ?
big big LOL.
 
Not an impartial YouTuber. Very pro US / anti anything Chinese. Hence you won’t find him analysing all the crash site evidence but when the Dassault CEO shamelessly tries to toe the Indian line, for obvious reasons, u get a video from him - best avoided.
Replied to you in the other Topic (too). This is just for others, so we can continue the discussion...



They are American, obviously they are Pro-West, however, in their previous video on the Pakistan-India conflict, Mover himself hasn't really bought India's narrative even once.

If anything, they have mostly sided with Pakistan with exception of (once) questioning AVM Aurangzeb in his main Briefing after the 7th of May. In it Mover said the AVM was trying to hard to sell that PAF shot that many jets.

He wasn't questioning the AVM..., infact called him very knowledable & refered to him a 'Gentleman'. But yeah, he did once question as to why he kept trying sell one thing, instead move on.

Even in this video - he hasn't said anything negative about PAF, Chinese equipment OR the PL-15.

Infact..., he & Gonky are doubting the Dassault CEO by saying that 'obviously' he's gonna try to sell his jet.

Lets not forget people that this is a very difficult time for Dassault. Barely a month back their Jet(s) were shot down by Chinese equipment & today as the Paris Air Show is taking place, that very Jet & the Missile are showcased in Dassault's hometurf.
 
And all the contributors here are impartial ?
big big LOL.
I think as a French, like the CEO, you're having a difficult time accepting that the 'Mighty' Rafale could be taken down by a J-10c ...

I'm sure by now you've seen the evidence & views by many International defence analysts..., including some French Intel individual on CNN.

Even our Air Vice Marshall said that the Rafale was good, if the operator knew how to employ it.

Take your beef up with the Endians. We're not the ones who told you to sell your equipment to those morons. Oh & its not only the Rafales, but one Mirage 2000 too.

#Sorry

Finally, could please ask Dassault's CEO to kindly visit India (personally) & do an audit of their inventory of Rafales & Mirages.

As the saying goes: I'll show you mine, if you show me yours :rofl:

Must be hard for the poor guy to sell something in his hometurf with the Chinese J-10c & PL-15's present at the Paris Air Show. I can understand his "French" Frustration.
 
6?
another day 10 ?
My bet is that PAF received during this air campaign a lesson. It is what is linking from all the west services.
Nationalism and nation proud (something good at some extent) let you a little bit blind.

Four unanimous from experts the world over. 5 very possible, 6 unlikely.

Bottom line, terrible, embarrassing outcome.

What do you propose to do? Teach them how to fly and fight?
 
And all the contributors here are impartial ?
big big LOL.
Sources that are referenced from third countries are expected to be impartial, not sure how u equate that to the same requirement for random members on a forum. However there are some very impartial and knowledgeable members on this forum with proven track record of integrity. Obviously you are not one of them.
 
Did you see Page 7 of the same magazine in the News section by Alan Warnes, preview below for those who can’t get it….

Bro you got the link to the single edition I want to buy it? Went on the site, all I see is subscriptions.
 
One BIG thing people are missing out here is how the army destroyed so many forward positions of the Indian army with the SH-15's;

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This literally left their entire front vulnerable after their air force retreated deep into to launch strikes.
 

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