Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

Xiaolong said:
Indeed he was. The timing of the American delegation’s visit to Noorkhan Airbase, shortly after the ceasefire, raises suspicions. It appears that Pakistan may have been offered "lollipop" to limit its response to mere face-saving measures rather than pursuing full retaliation.

I understand that the FM’s lunch was scheduled prior to this conflict, and canceling it would have carried significant diplomatic consequences for Pakistan. However, the nomination for a Nobel Peace Prize seems perplexing and excessive (chukanay v ek hadd tak chiya). I hopes this was merely a miscalculated move by Pakistanis dumbs and that our Iranian brothers were fully consulted and kept in the loop regarding this decision.
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It was craven rent seeking duffer establishment behaving like it has since 1950s. Lets discuss it in separate thread.
 
So far, not a single missile launch has been confirmed. In fact, they have not even declared retaliation.
Iran seems to have already decided to surrender, and it is all over.
 
PakAl said:
If Usa wants they can join Israel and bomb everything that moves in Iran but so far has declined. I hope this war stops now so Iran can address their shortcomings, come back stronger. I don't think the zionist will ever allow Iran to rise, they will continue to target their ballistic missile facilities. Regarding iranian retaliation on USA bases in middleeast, it makes no difference to the Americans, this will actually turn all Arabs against Iran, this should be the last resort for Iran.
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The problem is that too many people approach this emotionally—mainly because of their hatred toward Israel—rather than thinking practically.

Let’s be honest: the U.S. will never let Israel lose a war. They'll support Israel until it reaches the edge of what it can handle. That’s when they’ll step in, push for a ceasefire, and shift their stance toward peace—just like we’re starting to see now.

Israel pushed hard for the U.S. to provide advanced weaponry, including bunker busters—and they got it. Now, with most objectives met, Israel will likely ease off and align with the U.S. push for a ceasefire.

The only thing that could pull the U.S. back into active involvement is a direct attack from Iran or if Israel starts taking unsustainable damage.

Let’s be real—this war already had a pre-determined winner: Israel.

Russia is tied up in Ukraine. It was already clear they will not get involved. China, despite being a so-called closed partner to Iran, has chosen to sit on the sidelines. This situation makes it clear: in a real conflict, China won’t risk a global confrontation, even if its allies are taking hits.
 
BigMela2onin said:
Why is the senile 86 year old man still running our country?
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TO hell with him but he is not wrong. Years of efforts by Iran in building up and supporting Hamas, Hzb and Assad are gone to north with one year as they were taken out one by one. No one is left.
Now Nuclear facilities are gone too. This much inveated in Air force would have very different results by now.

Israil has won in Gaza and Palestine, threw its arch enemy Syed Hassan martyered and entire leadership of Hzb, making it disfunctional. threw out Asad and now iran nuclear threat. All that without losing anything or anyone signifcant.
 
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