Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

There can always be ceasefire, the question is for how long? weeks? months? years? Bear in mind the current time time we have Trump sitting until 2029 and Bibi for whenever he liked, do you think Iran should take the hit everytime Bibi had some kind of political crisis and send some missile Iran way?
If you are going to fight anyway, why not fight now instead of being degraded down a couple of years of back and forth? That's the issue here.

Iran is caught flat footed on many levels during this conflict. Israel had the advantage of years of planning for this, sobateurs, spies, fake negotiations through America, surprise attack... But Iran has not taken a mortal blow and needs to regroup.
Next time Netanyahu will find a more determined Iran. A ceasefire is needed right now but I think it is also needed by Israel.
Right now: looks like, as always, it is the mighty Israeli ego and arrogance which wants to defy Trump and keep attacking. Won't be good for Israel to cross Trump: His ego has no limits.
 
interesting analysis

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so Ceasefire has broken ...even before implementation.
 
I guess everyone on PDF (and everywhere else on social media) is a suspected Indian unless proven otherwise. Someone needs to invent a good AI based Indar (Indian Detector). It would make life easier for billions of people.
A guy that lives on bharatshit site and hates Pakistan is an indian bro ive seen his posts - we know.
 
From pure military POV,

Thickest majority of airstrikes on Iranian cities came from Aeroballistics and ALCM launches from Iraqi Airspace. People do not understand wars. Had their been such "superiority of Israeli AIrfroces over Iranian skies" we would have seen 100s of videos of jets flying over cities or launching PGMs like we saw in Ukraine or in Syrian war when air operations started. It cant just be hidden by any means. Jets are seen easily, they are noisy, break sound barriers in war zone or fly in terrain masking, create plumes from their launched SOWS. We have seen that in Iraq, Syria, Ukraine. IRI has zero censorship policy or gag order. Instead we are constantly seeing drone attacks (EO cams footages) and SOWs from Iraqi airspace being fired. Only single evidence so far of any actual fighter jet activity over Iranian cities is F-15 losing its fuel tanks when was fired upon by Khordad AD. It happened twice or when Spice PGM was fired on Tehran. Gabriel, Delilah ALCMs and some 4-5 types of MaRVed ALBMs are what IAF launches from Iraqi airspace.

I posted a dozen of posts in IRIAF section in last 5-8 years that Iran needs to arm Iraq with AD and BMs otherwise we will be hit from airpace we cant even gaurd.
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Israeli jets heard of western Tehran region airspace.
 
My 2 cents:

- Publicly end nuclear program in exchange for end of sanctions. Revive RCD cooperation with Pakistan and Turkey. The stronger the economy, the more difficult it is for traitors to be bribed with passports to developed countries

- End hostile proxy militant programs in neighbouring countries and mend relations with them. Syrians despise Assad, Lebanese are tired of Hezbollah, Pakistan is wary of Zaynaboun. Don't be like India, a friendless obnoxious country hated by its neighbours to the extent it made Bangladesh and Pakistan become friends again. Turkey and Pakistan can use their influence on Azerbaijan to mend relations with Iran and resolve disputes.

- I don't think Iran should sever relations with India or anything like that, but Iranians seriously need to introspect as to why their government sucks up to a country that has shamelessly back-stabbed Iran so many times, especially at the expense of close relations with Pakistan/China.

- Mass production of Fatah-2 (Iranian Hypersonic Missile) and launchers. Disperse across Iran. Jointly produce with some facilities ``in Pakistan so Israel cannot hit production facilities and missiles/launchers can be supplied Ukraine-style in the event of a long war.

- Mass produce MIRV conventional ballistic missiles. Most countries cannot do this due to nuclear implications, but a non-nuclear Iran is in a unique position to leverage unstoppable MIRV BMs for conventional strikes.

- Join PFX (JF-17 upgrade) program with Turkey and Pakistan to mass produce an 'Islamic' 4.5 gen fighter. And join KAAN program to produce an 'Islamic' 5th Gen fighter. China has an exceptional relationship with Pakistan, don't expect it to be extended to the rest of the world. Remember China has its own disagreements with Turkey and Iran (over Uighurs and BLA attacks on CPEC/Gwadar).
- Initiate multiple joint Turk-Iran-Pak programs to develop anti-stealth radars and other military tech.

- Aim for an air force of ~300 PFX/Thunder + ~ 128 KAAN. Get ~24 Chinese/Russian refuellers to sustain prolonged ops across the region

- Aim for ~10 awacs (Chinese, but if they're understandably not willing to sell their best to Iran, in the long run a turk-iran-pak system can be developed and installed on a cargo/business/passenger jet). Pakistani awacs can cover south and west iran.

- Build a large submarine force. Iran cannot conduct sea control ops against USN, but Iran can do sea denial ops like China. Work with Turkey and Pakistan to build a navy and form an allied ELINT network from Kuwait to Kutch.

- Pakistani air/missile/logistic bases in Iran, will not only serve as strategic depth against India, but also as safe heavens for air defence, much like the US is for Israel. Whoops, our HQ-9B/P and EW systems intercepted those Israeli projectiles headed to our base's general direction! Although Pakistan may not be able to sustain a long supply of interceptions, we can blunt a surprise attack like the one Iran faced on day one of this war.

- Deep undeground supply tunnels between Iran and Pakistan to evacuate Iranian VVIPs and high value assets to safety (and vice versa)

- Work towards reducing sectarian politics and ethno nationalism, aiming for a pan-islamic alliance (radical mullahs, kemalists, and far leftist elites will be the most difficult groups to clamp down on)

- Mass cleansing of traitors and corrupt officials

- Joint operations against JuA, Fitna al Hindustan, Taliban, ISIS-K, etc.

below per @OldTwilight

-Buy 100-150 HQ-16 30-50 HQ-22

-rebuild all OTH radar ,

-produce new 3th Khordad and 9th Day systems along with Bavar 373 ,

-buy more S300-PMU2 / S400

-ask for joint production of JF-17

-immediate purchase of 100-150 J10C , should continue purchase of Su-35

Summary: Stop FAing, and there is no FOing.
 
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Israeli jets heard of western Tehran region airspace.

Doesn't sound like Israeli jets to me. The sound seems to be from a stationary source.
 
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