Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

Falcon29 said:
Iran did not achieve any kind of strategic victory. That's a delusional take.

They achieved a few tactical victories.

However, we know their air defenses were actually destroyed after TP2 as Israel claimed and their airspace is now open to Israeli attacks.

The only way this turns into a strategy victory is if they now actually weaponize their nuclear program and race to a nuclear weapon, and successfully test one.
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Iran's IADS remained intact and showed its capability during TP-2. That is why Israel relied on small attack drones (Just like the attack on russian Bombers) and Special forces with spike missiles to punch a hole in Iran's western IADS for the IAF to come in and strike Iran.
 
the saint said:
Marandi the great fighter and destroyer of false narratives against Iran in international media is 1000% more reliable than you, when he posted that at that tine there was no such ceasefire agreement.
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Yes, this was posted before ceasefire and after intense Israeli firing despite Trump asking them to wind down.

Morandi has done a great job defending Iran and has gained some fame yet because of his links to current governance structure any excuse to discount him.

Interesting.....true nature of certain individuals has become apparent.
 
Persian Gulf said:
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The only reason Israel survived large-scale, devastating attacks was weakening of Iranian AD & establishment of at least partial air superiority over Iran which prevented Iranians from launching 200–300 missiles per day. Otherwise, Tel Aviv would have been reduced to rubble!
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That's actually a big Israeli success and massive Iranian failure. Need to learn hard lesson to not repeat next time.
 
Falcon29 said:
Iran did not achieve any kind of strategic victory. That's a delusional take.

They achieved a few tactical victories.

However, we know their air defenses were actually destroyed after TP2 as Israel claimed and their airspace is now open to Israeli attacks.

The only way this turns into a strategy victory is if they now actually weaponize their nuclear program and race to a nuclear weapon, and successfully test one.
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only s-300s were neutralised, other systems were destroyed through ATGM/drone strikes from within Iran on day 1
 
Falcon29 said:
Netanyahu and Israel are terrorists

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every time Israel does some sabotage or attack on Iran's nuclear program, it only advances the program

now the US destroyed Natanz and damaged Fordow (not severely, it seems)

Iran will move enrichment to the massive new Natanz site and undeclared sites (Qazvin?). enriched uranium was moved in advance and now no one knows where it is!

Natanz-1: 10-20m underground
Fordow: 80m under mountain

Natanz-2: 150-200m under mountain
Qazvin: 200m+ under mountain

Israel couldn't reach Natanz-1 let alone Fordow, so the US had to do it, and even the US couldn't destroy Fordow with 12 (!) GBU-57s at once. so they have no chance in Natanz-2 and Qazvin other than group ops.
 
Falcon29 said:
Netanyahu and Israel are terrorists

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I think bibi bombing campaign has almost guaranteed the Iranians will go nuclear
 
Persian Gulf said:
only s-300s were neutralised, other systems were destroyed through ATGM/drone strikes from within Iran on day 1
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I’m waiting for what was destroyed in Israel takes forever before it starts leaking out especially the sites that couldn’t be observed because of milk censors but we will get it soon enough
 
Perhaps, if the Arab govs organize protests by their own civilians against US bases instead of just saving it directly, Some sort of pressure could develop.

But unfortunately, the bases are a part of defence strategy by the Arab govs…

@RescueRanger
 
the saint said:
Marandi the great fighter and destroyer of false narratives against Iran in international media is 1000% more reliable than you, when he posted that at that tine there was no such ceasefire agreement.
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Well as far as we know...
There is no written agreement... or one anyone knows about.
 
by the way, if anyone thinks Fordow is buried deep (80m under mountain) or new Natanz site (200m under mountain)... Iran's main missile bases are buried 250-500m under mountains!

Iran will learn lessons: build many more entrances to each base, keep bulldozers within inside bases, and use more launch methods
 
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Iranian people have never been this united
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Let’s wait for bib smotrich and gvir makes the rounds at bombed out cities definitely gvir I think Israelis aren’t going to cheer but try to lynch them if they decide to do it
 
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