Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

Avicenna said:
I wonder if Israel is rearming quickly and will try some other action sooner rather than later.

It's basically a race to re-arm and prepare for the next round me thinks.
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Yes and they will always be able to rearm faster. They are getting constant resupply flights from every western country.
 
ShapurII said:
That's also a type of regime change. A soft regime change.
The situation between the US and Iran has become so complicated after nearly half a century that it takes a lot of concessions from both sides to restore ties. And obviously, since Iran is the weaker party to this, Iran needs to make more concessions. First and foremost, we should stop our anti-Israel narrative.
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1953 was 72 years ago!
 
BigMela2onin said:
Yes and they will always be able to rearm faster. They are getting constant resupply flights from every western country.
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Yea I am noticing on FR24.

The question is will Iran approach China and Russia for help as well.
 
Avicenna said:
I wonder if Israel is rearming quickly and will try some other action sooner rather than later.

It's basically a race to re-arm and prepare for the next round me thinks.
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from the start they were sure that with first iraninan hits on israelis cities usa will enter the war, and fight iran instead of them... that will not happen... for iran now is more important cleaning-house process of traitors in secret services, that was main weapon of idf in last clash...
 
PakAl said:
Pakistanis love Egyptians and GCC people, but ofcourse the genocide in Gaza is disturbing. We also want Arabs to unite and not be used by world powers. You will be surprised how much our people love Arabs. Ofcourse criticism is at its own place, same way Arabs may think of us as lower class than them.
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No we don't love the camel jockeys of GCC. Egyptians are just like Pakistanis beaten and oppressed by their US/Zionist slave military establishment.
 
ShapurII said:
There's a flaw in your logic though.
If we resolve our issues with the US (and consequentially, Israel), we won't even need a strategic alliance with Pakistan or China to begin with. We need China to stand against the US. If there is no feud with the US anymore, China can at best be an economic partner of Iran. And Pakistan may finally build their side of the pipeline after a decade of delay.

This is the exact problem with China that I was talking about, and you just confirmed I was right.
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Is it also in Chinas interest and strategy to be enemy or totally against US esp militarily now ? If not, then why should China fight US on behalf of Iran ? If so, cooperation on the matter with China is naturally likely. I dont know.
 
ShapurII said:
So, do you see the problem? You are contradicting yourself.
At some point you say that Iran needs to resolve its foreign policy issues, but then you say that it's impossible, then again move on to say that we should resolve our differences with the US. Do you see how complicated the issue is?

You are very gullible if you think it's about our "tone". You think China doesn't want to trade with Iran because some people chant death to America in Friday prayers? It's about US sanctions, not our tone. And the US hasn't sanctioned us for our tone, but because Iran is run by an anti-imperialist/anti-Zionist ideology. Do I agree with it 100%? No, but I am not a decision maker.

Because the only way we can resolve our issues with the US is to guarantee them that we will not act against their interests. Iran is not a super power for sure, but we are one of the richest countries in natural resources and fossil fuels. I'm sure if the US wants to resolve their issues with us, one of their conditions will be to ensure that we won't get too close to China as it is against their interests.

And your comment about India is really biased. We do not have a strategic partnership with India, but we do have a strategic partnership with China. We have a 25-year strategic partnership deal with China. China is simply not interested in deeper ties. As I said, at this point, the best we can do with China is to ask North Korea to act as a proxy between us, like in the Iraq-Iran war.
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Iran also has strategic relationship with India, as you two signed strategic parnership treaty years ago.
 
ety said:
Is it also in Chinas interest and strategy to be enemy or totally against US esp militarily now ? If not, then why should China fight US on behalf of Iran ? If so, cooperation on the matter with China is naturally likely. I dont know.
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You misunderstood me. I never said that China should fight the US on our behalf. I didn't even try to imply it. So, I wonder from where you got that idea.

We desperately need to rebuild our air force from scratch. China, unlike Russia, has the industrial capacity to deliver large number of jet fighters. Iran has enough gold reserves and oil to barter for the deal, but I think China will still not be interested in the deal but I hope I'm wrong.
 
BigMela2onin said:
Yes and they will always be able to rearm faster. They are getting constant resupply flights from every western country.
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they will never be able to take devastating strikes on chin, this not about nato support line of supply, they are simply unable to neutralize Iran to fight back...
 
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