Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[SABRE]

Yes thats logical, a VP in the US is hand picked by the nominated presidential candidate, he literally is nothing without the president's selection, he owes everything to him and will fall in line. He has no individual powers, except in rare and exceptional situations.

Indeed the VPOTUS has extremely limited powers, but the post is important nonetheless as VPOTUS is generally considered successor of POTUS. However, Vance appears to be playing advisory role as well, especially on foreign policy. Trump also doesn't seem to mind him being around and voicing his opinion when foreign dignitaries are visiting. I am surprised Rubio is going along with it. As Secretary of State he should be more conservative about who talks on foreign policy.

 

[muhammed45]

Let's suppose we have imported 300 units of latest version of SU35. Let's again suppose we defeated F-22, F-18, F-16, F-15, French Rafales, British Eurofighters and Typhoons over Jordan, Iraq and Syria.

How are you going to pass through patriots, THAAD plus Israeli, German gifted, European gifted Air defense systems in Israel?

Fighter jets are good to defend skies and also monitoring airspace to avoid being surprised. Problem is that the opponent uses stealth technology.

Until we don't have a stealth jet fully built locally, we cannot waste resources on Russian inferior jets. Not even Chinese jets can help us in this case. China won't sell J-20 or 35. So forget about imports.

We need a local 5th generation jet which can be manufactured at will. And it takes time.

First and most important mission is to expel illegal refugees to the last one. And arresting all the American and European spies inside the country. Closure of European embassies must be on the table too. What benefit we receive from that? Use the psiphon on Europeans

You guys never learn anything

There's absolutely no proof that Azerbaijan was involved in this war. I get that there's a psychological urge to blame someone, but this has turned into pure propaganda.

As friendly as Baku is with Israel, Aliyev wouldn't do anything to jeopardize his hold on power. His whole approach to both domestic and international issues revolves around this key idea.

Launching drone strikes against Iran just to please Netanyahu? Not a chance. Direct your frustration towards the actual individuals in the Iranian government whose failures have dragged the country down in multiple ways.

Always remember, you can't say Azərbaycan without Türkiye and vice versa.

Focus on what matters right now. Build the bomb or get some sort of a deal that is good for the country, everything else is just waste of time.

Looks like after offering a thanks, you see a lion in the mirror.

Learn to take a thanks. Its not because we cannot do something, it's exactly vise versa.

We know well how to rebuke Ilham lady.

 

[Baibers_1260]

h

Russia has 6000 nukes, they're under daily attack.

Which basically proves the "new normal" today:

1. Nuclear weapons are only useful if they can be delivered on target with 100% assurance of penetration of enemy air defenses, This was the situation from 1950-1990 when both the Soviet Union, USA and NATO-Warsaw Pact nuclear ballistic and cruise missiles could penetrate enemy defenses. This was Mutually Assured Destruction.
2. In 2025, nuclear weapons have been rendered largely in effective because conventionally inferior non-Western powers ( Russia, China, Pakistan) have no ability to deliver nuclear weapons past the missile defenses of enemy nations. Also their own missile defenses are weak as has been seen in the Ukrainian-Russian war and the India Pakistan skirmish.
3. The option to use nuclear weapons lies solely in the Western camp, USA, NATO, Israel and India. Ironically given the immense conventional weapons superiority these countries enjoy over their adversaries, they have no need to use nuclear weapons. Additionally, given their advanced global strike capabilities Western powers can take out all potential nuclear threats whenever convenient.

It may be premature to say this, but the nuclear weapons era seems to be effectively over.

 

[Qaraca]

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Pezeshkian didn’t say such a thing. It says “Pezeshkian urged Azerbaijan to investigate the rumors”, not that Iran will investigate it. Although even mentioning this is ridiculous, he don’t say that Iran has suspicions or anything, but refers to rumors from social media.

https://president.ir/en/159946

He further said:

“Pezeshkian also thanked the Azerbaijani government and nation for their support and solidarity with Iran during the aggression by the Zionist regime.

Pezeshkian also expressed hope that relations and cooperation between Iran and Azerbaijan will become more profound and extensive.”

 

[Nuffle]

Let's suppose we have imported 300 units of latest version of SU35. Let's again suppose we defeated F-22, F-18, F-16, F-15, French Rafales, British Eurofighters and Typhoons over Jordan, Iraq and Syria.

How are you going to pass through patriots, THAAD plus Israeli, German gifted, European gifted Air defense systems in Israel?

Fighter jets are good to defend skies and also monitoring airspace to avoid being surprised. Problem is that the opponent uses stealth technology.

Until we don't have a stealth jet fully built locally, we cannot waste resources on Russian inferior jets. Not even Chinese jets can help us in this case. China won't sell J-20 or 35. So forget about imports.

We need a local 5th generation jet which can be manufactured at will. And it takes time.

Dude, no country would be able to defend itself against an attack of this scope, you are considering that everyone is going all out against Iran, so, in this way, the best way for Iran to defend itself is to obtain its nuclear bomb, because only that would make deterrence have an effect on these imperialist desires, that's what the DPRK did and until now it has not been invaded.

 

[Maarkhoor]

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[Nuffle]

h

Which basically proves the "new normal" today:

1. Nuclear weapons are only useful if they can be delivered on target with 100% assurance of penetration of enemy air defenses, This was the situation from 1950-1990 when both the Soviet Union, USA and NATO-Warsaw Pact nuclear ballistic and cruise missiles could penetrate enemy defenses. This was Mutually Assured Destruction.
2. In 2025, nuclear weapons have been rendered largely in effective because conventionally inferior non-Western powers ( Russia, China, Pakistan) have no ability to deliver nuclear weapons past the missile defenses of enemy nations. Also their own missile defenses are weak as has been seen in the Ukrainian-Russian war and the India Pakistan skirmish.
3. The option to use nuclear weapons lies solely in the Western camp, USA, NATO, Israel and India. Ironically given the immense conventional weapons superiority these countries enjoy over their adversaries, they have no need to use nuclear weapons. Additionally, given their advanced global strike capabilities Western powers can take out all potential nuclear threats whenever convenient.

It may be premature to say this, but the nuclear weapons era seems to be effectively over.

So why don't they do what they did with Iran and attack the DPRK and denuclearize Kim?

 

[Bengal71]

Regardless of the nukes debate, It is just too odd that a nation with many scientists and highly intelligent people have a religious cleric as the Supreme Leader who can veto the most rational, consensus based policies of the govt.
But their country, their system. Just sayin'

Religious leadership isn't as bad as we think, it's certainly better than the hodge podge of systems we have in the Islamic world.

If Khamenei doesn't have the veto power and everything is left for the government to decide, then soon enough they will move towards dysfunctional and corrupt democracies we have in some parts of the Islamic world. Kanemenei here as a religious leader acts as the guardian.

With that said, I am not sure how solve this problem.

 

[Persian Gulf]

131 missiles failed?

or intercepted before they reached Israel ? 20% doesn't sound too high for that.

 

[Persian Gulf]

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this might be video from first use of Qasem Basir missile with EO sensor!

@ShapurII

 

[Lulldapull]

h

Which basically proves the "new normal" today:

1. Nuclear weapons are only useful if they can be delivered on target with 100% assurance of penetration of enemy air defenses, This was the situation from 1950-1990 when both the Soviet Union, USA and NATO-Warsaw Pact nuclear ballistic and cruise missiles could penetrate enemy defenses. This was Mutually Assured Destruction.
2. In 2025, nuclear weapons have been rendered largely in effective because conventionally inferior non-Western powers ( Russia, China, Pakistan) have no ability to deliver nuclear weapons past the missile defenses of enemy nations. Also their own missile defenses are weak as has been seen in the Ukrainian-Russian war and the India Pakistan skirmish.
3. The option to use nuclear weapons lies solely in the Western camp, USA, NATO, Israel and India. Ironically given the immense conventional weapons superiority these countries enjoy over their adversaries, they have no need to use nuclear weapons. Additionally, given their advanced global strike capabilities Western powers can take out all potential nuclear threats whenever convenient.

It may be premature to say this, but the nuclear weapons era seems to be effectively over.

No shit…….you can have 10 or a 1000……if yous can’t deliver em and beat the western defenses (like Iran punk’d them daily) in israel……what good are they no?

 

[Persian Gulf]

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[Nuffle]

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this might be video from first use of Qasem Basir missile with EO sensor!

@ShapurII

Is he a MaRV with EO?

 

[Lulldapull]

So why don't they do what they did with Iran and attack the DPRK and denuclearize Kim?

They can do it quick if they wanted to. North Korea is practically nekkid no? Like a little child against an adult. It’s too easy no?

SK will quickly invade and end the drama in no time.

Irans huge in area and resources, with tens of thousands of missiles and drones that’s why Israel’s failed and got beaten, but we’ve also seen NK weaponry in Russia/Ukraine and its primitive.

 

[Adam Barfy]

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These are the KIA from Iranian AD troops

Learn some lessons from their deaths, Iran.