Pakistan Air Force | News & Discussions

[Michael]

What if we mount a gun on super mushak and use them for targetting drones? or we can built one drone with mounted gun on it and used that just for drone swarm attack? it will be the cheapest solution to deter any small drones attack like kamikaze and loitering munition?

Under the current state of the art, this option is of little practical significance.

This scheme is actually a variant of CIWS. It is equivalent to moving the Chinese 625E air defense system to an airborne platform (manned or unmanned).

The main difficulty with this option is the weight of the system itself.

CIWS utilizes high velocity and large numbers of flying projectiles to form a flying shield. It requires a large number of projectiles and a bulky feed/control system. It is usually used in naval shipboard defense systems. China adapted it for land-based air defense systems (625E). And similar airborne launchers (helicopter gunships, fighter guns, A-10/AC-130, etc.) have a very small reserve of projectiles (compared to the CIWS). They are all used for offense rather than defense. ------ The bullets and the automatic feeding system itself weigh too much.

Currently, a number of Chinese organizations are developing “airborne laser weapon systems”. ------ This is a better solution.
The difficulty with the current program is to increase the power of the laser, but it is not too difficult.
Maybe, at the next Zhuhai Airshow, you might see a Chinese company displaying a UAV with a laser weapon system.

 

[Pakistan Space Agency]

Batch of 6. This is the 3rd batch of 6.

Was the second batch also of 6?

Did the 22-119 and 22-120 come in the 4th batch of 2 aircraft only? If so, do you have the date for that please?

 

[ghazi52]

Fly to protect the sky.

 

[Trailer23]

Fly to protect the sky.

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Its on a Roundabout.

 

[Fatman17]

Was the second batch also of 6?

Did the 22-119 and 22-120 come in the 4th batch of 2 aircraft only? If so, do you have the date for that please?

I don't have that info

 

[Tariq Habib Afridi]

Under the current state of the art, this option is of little practical significance.

This scheme is actually a variant of CIWS. It is equivalent to moving the Chinese 625E air defense system to an airborne platform (manned or unmanned).

The main difficulty with this option is the weight of the system itself.

CIWS utilizes high velocity and large numbers of flying projectiles to form a flying shield. It requires a large number of projectiles and a bulky feed/control system. It is usually used in naval shipboard defense systems. China adapted it for land-based air defense systems (625E). And similar airborne launchers (helicopter gunships, fighter guns, A-10/AC-130, etc.) have a very small reserve of projectiles (compared to the CIWS). They are all used for offense rather than defense. ------ The bullets and the automatic feeding system itself weigh too much.

Currently, a number of Chinese organizations are developing “airborne laser weapon systems”. ------ This is a better solution.
The difficulty with the current program is to increase the power of the laser, but it is not too difficult.
Maybe, at the next Zhuhai Airshow, you might see a Chinese company displaying a UAV with a laser weapon system.

you are right. As because of our poor economic condition we will need an indegenious kind of system where costs can be minimized. so we can cheaply neutralize the drone attack

 

[Hakikat ve Hikmet]

An old friend can't be an arch enemy - a Turkish saying

Keep your friends close, and enemies closer - a monologue from the movie, The Godfather

Looks like the Pentagon is "concerned" about the competence shown by the PAF. They want to ensure that it's only Bharat-centric. Of course Dua also requires Dawai....

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[m52k85]

What would you do to the F-16s if you were the CAS?

18 Block-52s to upgrade to V
18 new Block-72s

36 - F-16s


use current relationships to push through in cash (trump knows we have it for that)

Insist that 120D is provided - They know India is just stringing them along and has no intention of buying US fighters anymore.

F-16s serve both as potent assets - and diplomatic connection allowing participation in NATO exercises

What would you do to the F-16s if you were the CAS?

According to bawosooq zarai, the CAS went for something not available to PAF from alternative sources. Block-72 AESA and long stick equivalent are available in the form of J-10C package. That just leaves the HTS and HARM as far as I can tell.

 

[Fatman17]

 

[Watandar]

Hi,

About time---it will be a pay back of how the south africans helped our air force around 3 decades ago.

never heard of that. What did south africa do for PAF three decades ago ?

 

[Rational Philosopher]

Very comprehensive article on the PAF's possible future plans. Good piece.

Report: Pakistan’s Air Warfare Plans for the Decade - Quwa

Pakistan's air warfare plans for the rest of the 2020s aim to achieve area-denial and the ability to sustain large-scale air operations.

quwa.org

 

[Fatman17]

 

[Scorpio]

Is there any official number out there on how many fighter aircraft PAF plans to maintain as a minimum figure?

400 fighters apx

 

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Alan directly qouting ACM PAF.. both are reliable. means we have shot 4 rafale? so the politician were right from the beginning