Pakistan-India Conflict 2025: News Updates and Discussion

[Mighty_Dragon_Strike]

The Pakistanis are borrowing a leaf from the Indians with their extravagant bogus claims and AI produced content.

Only makes Pakistan a laughing stock like the Indians.

he at least 3rd journalist I have heard that more than 12 jets either shot down or were damaged!

some thing is wrong here. Importantly, all jour. I have heard with these figures had close ties with deep state. That cant be all false.

on the other hand, IAF is'nt 'exuberantly rational' about Rafaeles too!

 

[NA71]

If anything it shows the incompetence of the Indian high command, how could not anticipate the Pakistan China connection??

What did they think was going to happen?

We should be grateful to Allah that the Indian Army has these Generals with chronic diseases caused by malnutrition and genetically low fighting spirits.

 

[Watandar]

he at least 3rd journalist I have heard that more than 12 jets either shot down or were damaged!

some thing is wrong here. Importantly, all jour. I have heard with these figures had close ties with deep state. That cant be all false.

on the other hand, IAF is'nt 'exuberantly rational' about Rafaeles too!

It's the lack of professional journalists in Pakistan. Most journos in Pakistan are on payroll and part of disinformation operations and then you have influencers podcasters who have zero standards and will say anything.

 

[Mighty_Dragon_Strike]

Someone purchased satellite image of IAF Base Adampur from 10/11th May morning and made it viral on twitter.

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yes, I trust you!

 

[Mighty_Dragon_Strike]

It's the lack of professional journalists in Pakistan. Most journos in Pakistan are on payroll and part of disinformation operations and then you have influencers podcasters who have zero standards and will say anything.

they are un-professional, but, I am not a panda?!

hello, I am a trained 'finance engineer', I can understand blackholes!

 

[Vkdindian1]

BTW, the stupid General blaming China's involvement

Stupid general? Why? That’s a common discourse in a large number of your brethren. Anyone you disagree with, becomes an idiot, clown or a fool. Grow up to disagree with dignity.

He is not blaming anything or anyone but bringing out the facts. Those facts that India would need to consider for all future conflicts.

In fact it is a rather laughable to claim his comments as “complaining “. What do you expect him to say - Bravo, great thing that China actively got involved and provided active support as the conflict was going on. How else he is supposed to bring put these facts? Please learn to differentiate between complaining and stating facts.

Israel has been just supplying India with equipment just like US has given you F-16s or China supplied J10s or PL-15. China went a step ahead during this conflict. There has been enough talk about that on this forum.

Was it wrong? No. Everything is fair in a war.

I am proud of the Indian General to state facts, knowing fully well, that propaganda mongers would twist and turn his statements to create a narrative, which is what is happening here.

 

[Mighty_Dragon_Strike]

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[Hakikat ve Hikmet]

Looks like the Bharati analysts are prepping their folks, of course with sugar coating that Bharat has come out absolutely OK and Pak destroyed after the recent ops, to accept that kinetic actions against Pakistan has crossed the point of diminishing return...

China, Pakistan And A Proxy War Against India? What The Army Just Revealed | Ctrl Alt Defence Ep 10​

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[NA71]

Stupid general? Why? That’s a common discourse in a large number of your brethren. Anyone you disagree with, becomes an idiot, clown or a fool. Grow up to disagree with dignity.

He is not blaming anything or anyone but bringing out the facts. Those facts that India would need to consider for all future conflicts.

In fact it is a rather laughable to claim his comments as “complaining “. What do you expect him to say - Bravo, great thing that China actively got involved and provided active support as the conflict was going on. How else he is supposed to bring put these facts? Please learn to differentiate between complaining and stating facts.

Israel has been just supplying India with equipment just like US has given you F-16s or China supplying J10s or PL-15. But China went far ahead of that and there has been enough talk about that on this forum.

Was it wrong? No. Everything is fair in a war.

I am proud of him to state facts knowing fully well that propaganda mongers would twist and turn his statements to create a narrative, which is what is happening here.

An Indian talking about Propaganda Mongering ....is actually another Joke.

The entire episode of recent events are pure Indian propaganda...from Pehalgam attack ....to Attack on Karachi ...lahore...Islamabad.....and finally .....Pakistan ney ham par hi hamla karna shuru kar dia....

 

[Vkdindian1]

If Iran is switching to Beidou, and considering Starlink works on GPS, is Iran going to permanently Jam GPS signals in an around its country?

Considering Iran-US relations, it is surprising that Iran was still dependent on GPS. They should have moved to Glonass, Galileo or Beidou long back.

The possibility of losing GNSS based services getting disrupted would exist even with Beidou. Beidou works on similar principles as GPS, Galileo and Glonass. It shouldn’t be very difficult to jam or spoof.

 

[Rational Philosopher]

Stupid general? Why? That’s a common discourse in a large number of your brethren. Anyone you disagree with, becomes an idiot, clown or a fool. Grow up to disagree with dignity.

He is not blaming anything or anyone but bringing out the facts. Those facts that India would need to consider for all future conflicts.

In fact it is a rather laughable to claim his comments as “complaining “. What do you expect him to say - Bravo, great thing that China actively got involved and provided active support as the conflict was going on. How else he is supposed to bring put these facts? Please learn to differentiate between complaining and stating facts.

Israel has been just supplying India with equipment just like US has given you F-16s or China supplied J10s or PL-15. China went a step ahead during this conflict. There has been enough talk about that on this forum.

Was it wrong? No. Everything is fair in a war.

I am proud of the Indian General to state facts, knowing fully well, that propaganda mongers would twist and turn his statements to create a narrative, which is what is happening here.

His comments were still immature by mentioning "3 or 4 countries" and Turkey, why mention Turkey which is merely a supplier? It's like Pakistan saying it was fighting 5 or so countries because India procures weapons from Russia, France, Israel, etc.

Also it seems he was mostly alluding to satellite support, I wouldn't be surprised if India had partners giving such support too like Russia. China is just more in the open with its ties because Indians tend to complain more (not referring to general here)

 

[hydrabadi_arab]

Nehru is like Peter Pan. He doesn't learn anything new or unlearns what he has already learnt - Jinnah

Indian Military Has Learnt Wrong Lessons from Op Sindoor

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Only sane Indian analyst who isn't afraid of telling the truth.

 

[hydrabadi_arab]

Someone purchased satellite image of IAF Base Adampur from 10/11th May morning and made it viral on twitter.

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He got it from this American geoint website for $140.

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lol

"BJP MLA from Udhampur East, RS Pathania calls INDIAN AIRFORCE, "NALAYAK"/ "WORTHLESS" & and said they were caught sleeping when Pakistan attacked Udhampur airbase. "

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[Vkdindian1]

His comments were still immature by mentioning "3 or 4 countries" and Turkey, why mention Turkey which is merely a supplier? It's like Pakistan saying it was fighting 5 or so countries because India procures weapons from Russia, France, Israel, etc.

Also it seems he was mostly alluding to satellite support, I wouldn't be surprised if India had partners giving such support too like Russia. China is just more in the open with its ties because Indians tend to complain more (not referring to general here)

I agree that 3-4 country was an open ended comment and should have been specific with the names of those countries, if it was so.

Chinese support was almost openly known but Turkish supply of some stuff as the conflict was raging is also a strong possibility. There were few C130s that flew from Turkey to Pakistan during those 88 hours. Military aircraft during those days aren’t likely to be for mundane cargo but something of great urgency, either to bolster or to make up for the losses.

Supplying weapons before a war and during a war aren’t the same things. During a conflict, is akin to directly participating in it.

There is nothing wrong or right in such support and any country can do that.

But, the parties involved, make their plans based on the known factors. China actively joining hands with Pakistan is as alarming as it can get. A country like China, providing open support can’t be treated lightly and a matter of grave concern for India.

This time it was most probably ISR support, but didn't that matter the most on the first day. Next time it could go one step further. Why next time, it could have happened this time itself, had things escalated.

Russian support to India is possible but unlikely during those days. Primarily due to limitations imposed on them due to war in their own backyard.

General, said these things openly. His talk also touched upon areas where we need to improve. All in all, it was an analysis of what worked and what didn’t and why.

But, there are multiple posts and even a thread, created to twist and misinterpret his comments, as an admission of defeat. Nothing but a lie and propaganda.