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[the saint]

No one is talking about F5 and F14s , in fact if its was me , I would start from scratch rather than wasting time with aged USA platform ...

we need fighters, no one is willing to sell. Russia doesn't want to honor their contract and China publicly said that won't provide weapon to either side of conflict. So we only have one option left, is it hard to understand!?

where did China say ? source?

 

[Kyussis]

where did China say ? source?

China's ambassador to Israel told that to the Israelis.

 

[Hack-Hook]

Stop trolling lol

That's a fact.
They are not reformist they are moderate at least go and look it up

 

[the saint]

China's ambassador to Israel told that to the Israelis.

Is it israhelli source? How come Chinese journalist Carl Zhao doesn't know this?

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[mulj]

Russians will get bombed soon by american weapons and once again exposed as stupid or enslaved stalling weapon deliveries to Iran.
At this point judged by information best air force Iran could get is ramping up buying and producing escavators, tunnel machines and concrete factories.

 

[Kyussis]

Is it israhelli source? How come Chinese journalist Carl Zhao doesn't know this?

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How should I know?

 

[Adam Barfy]

How should I know?

I think it was rhetorical

 

[Navid09]

So obviously after the recent 12 day war Iran's weakness in air force has shown.

The argument is if it had an air force, Israel would not have done as much damage or maybe even been deterred from attacking, which I agree with.

At the same time, the counter argument is, what if America gets involved and you have hundreds of aircraft involved in attacking iran, would the dozens of new Iranian jets just be destroying or be forced to stay hidden?

If this is the case, then one could argue that the money would be better spent elsewhere providing more deterrence for same amount of funds.

At the end of the day, if Israel can't weaken Iran, it will find a way to get USA involved, and that's where the real threat is.

Curious what others takes are on this.

 

[Sarhang]

So obviously after the recent 12 day war Iran's weakness in air force has shown.

The argument is if it had an air force, Israel would not have done as much damage or maybe even been deterred from attacking, which I agree with.

At the same time, the counter argument is, what if America gets involved and you have hundreds of aircraft involved in attacking iran, would the dozens of new Iranian jets just be destroying or be forced to stay hidden?

If this is the case, then one could argue that the money would be better spent elsewhere providing more deterrence for same amount of funds.

At the end of the day, if Israel can't weaken Iran, it will find a way to get USA involved, and that's where the real threat is.

Curious what others takes are on this.

No nation on earth can stand up to the full might of the US Air Force. Anyone who thinks otherwise is just day dreaming and a brainwashed fanboy.

If you actually want to prevent a US assault the best strategy will not be building some fancy air force but simply not picking a fight in the first place. Keep peace, keep trade flowing, exactly like Turkey is doing. It’s working pretty well for them.

Iran can build quite a powerful air force when the time is right and when the nation isnt a pariah anymore. That alone would be enough to keep the real regional rivals Turkey, Iraq, Saudi etc in their place.

No need to fantasize about taking on the US. Just having enough strength to dominate your own region is already a huge strategic edge.

 

[Persian Gulf]

Our air defense lacked in number.
But loot at how many air defence Ukraine had and how many we had.
And also look at how many short range air defence we had and how we lacked the capability to deal with swarm.

Our lack of adequate amount of air defence equipment was clear when Mr. Khamenei went to another city they had to send an airdefence battalion in front of him

it is not difficult or expensive to create a few hundred Majid trucks

at least they could stop MALE drones flying over Tehran and Esfahan

 

[MMCM]

No nation on earth can stand up to the full might of the US Air Force. Anyone who thinks otherwise is just day dreaming and a brainwashed fanboy.

If you actually want to prevent a US assault the best strategy will not be building some fancy air force but simply not picking a fight in the first place. Keep peace, keep trade flowing, exactly like Turkey is doing. It’s working pretty well for them.

Iran can build quite a powerful air force when the time is right and when the nation isnt a pariah anymore. That alone would be enough to keep the real regional rivals Turkey, Iraq, Saudi etc in their place.

No need to fantasize about taking on the US. Just having enough strength to dominate your own region is already a huge strategic edge.

Agree with your statement, thou mone must not forget that the Yanks threw everything at Vietnam, short of nuclear weapons but still lost, despite having superior weapons and technology

 

[gambit]

Agree with your statement, thou mone must not forget that the Yanks threw everything at Vietnam, short of nuclear weapons but still lost, despite having superior weapons and technology

You obviously do not know the military details of the Vietnam War.

Sure, you can say that the US 'lost' the war, but then you would have to explain why did the US have complete autonomy over North Vietnam airspace.

 

[Navid09]

No nation on earth can stand up to the full might of the US Air Force. Anyone who thinks otherwise is just day dreaming and a brainwashed fanboy.

If you actually want to prevent a US assault the best strategy will not be building some fancy air force but simply not picking a fight in the first place. Keep peace, keep trade flowing, exactly like Turkey is doing. It’s working pretty well for them.

Iran can build quite a powerful air force when the time is right and when the nation isnt a pariah anymore. That alone would be enough to keep the real regional rivals Turkey, Iraq, Saudi etc in their place.

No need to fantasize about taking on the US. Just having enough strength to dominate your own region is already a huge strategic edge.

Not to an enemy that wants to overthrow your government, just like they did to Iraq, Syria, Libya, etc. and now with Iran and Venezuela and more.

Some of these countries had no beef with US but yet they still were attacked.

Turkey is a western puppet and also we don't know, they could be a target in the future

 

[Fatman17]

 

[Hack-Hook]

it is not difficult or expensive to create a few hundred Majid trucks

at least they could stop MALE drones flying over Tehran and Esfahan

I don't now , I'm also certain building several hundred of those majid truck cost less than the damage of those drones .

My only guess is that majid was a prototype and not a finished project that they had to rush out of the research facilities to deal with drones.
pobably we later see a version of majid with a gun also added to dead to deal with drones and swarms and they produce it