Syrian Civil War and The future of Syria after liberation

[hyperman]

I think using chatgpt is in many cases better than randomly typing somethiing.
It's like someone asking 15 years ago: "are you seriously using google"?

except its not, you guys think its something from the Hitchhiker's galaxy or something, where it gives an absolute truth. when in many instances, it will curate the response based on how the query is fed. It also hallucinates.

Its not a source for anything. I can make it print contradictory results based on how i feed the query. And it will believe its accurate/true.

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[shapurzolaktaf]

I remember when the Assadists used to do the same with Sunnis, pulling their beard, I hated it then and I hate it now. Dont humiliate just kill them if they are rebels and collaborating with Israel.

Assads army soldiers/fighters were majority Sunnis. Many Syrian Sunnis have a moderate understanding of Islam and are not waiting for some radicals from central asia to decide their faith and future.

I can give you a related and historical case, when Afghan Sunnis (part of mujahedin in that time) captured some foreign salafists with beards, after the defeat of taliban, they pulled their bears by force.

In these cases, the cause was not religiously motivated.

 

[hyperman]

In these cases, the cause was not religiously motivated.

You know that the majority of Assad's Shabiha were Alawites right? And the elites forces and the higher up officer class was Alawites. There are plenty of sectarian things documented by these people, they filmed it themselves. The Assad Clan made sure to have the higher position and positions of power from his group, to avoid any internal coup. I remember one scene where they buried a man alive and he is saying the shahadah with his last breathe and they mock him, by saying there is no god but bashar. Other videos from Miqdad Fatiha and others from the Shabiha doing things.

 

[Bharatah]

According to the official statement, in the past 48 hours, 158 Salafi terrorists have been killed in attacks by the Druze and the Israeli regime.

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I've been saying this here for a while and I'll say it again: the post-government agenda that took years to happen in Iraq, Libya and Yugoslavia is taking months in Syria.

Trump promised the new regime a unified Syria. But Israel prefers a fragmented one. Despite the regime’s charm offensive toward Israel, Israeli airstrikes continue—targeting not only Syria's conventional military infrastructure, which also belong to the new regime, but also al-Sharaa-backed jihadi forces. Al-Sharaa himself was just threatened with assassination. Trump is trying to rein in.

The region is taking note: even with regime change, Israel shows no intention of stopping. If its interests demand it, it will disregard any country’s right to self-defense or territorial integrity to expand its sphere of influence.

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I don't think so exactly, I think that Trump wants to follow the standard agenda where you remove the government, put the puppet and after years undo it (waiting for a generation of people and spectators in the media, this creates the idea that it is already a new event occurring and the colonizing agenda continues as if they were separate events. This softens the genocide, and people at home don't understand it as "a single war" but separate events that coincidentally benefit the US or "Israel") - it was like that in Iraq, Libya etc. Netanyahu and Zionism don't want to wait (because they fear) so they want to do what we experts in globalism call "ACCELERATE THE GLOBAL AGENDA", in short: what would have to happen in 10/15 years, happens in months or in 1/2 years.

 

[shapurzolaktaf]

You know that the majority of Assad's Shabiha were Alawites right? And the elites forces and the higher up officer class was Alawites. There are plenty of sectarian things documented by these people, they filmed it themselves. The Assad Clan made sure to have the higher position and positions of power from his group, to avoid any internal coup. I remember one scene where they buried a man alive and he is saying the shahadah with his last breathe and they mock him, by saying there is no god but bashar. Other videos from Miqdad Fatiha and others from the Shabiha doing things.

No one defends Shabihas, they were killers and should have been executed for killing innocents (case by case, not massacring alawites and stealing their women as slaves like what HTS did recenty). So don't get me wrong here.

But you can't deny that the majority of assads army were sunni fighters, which is still not surprising, majority of Syria are Sunnis. I'm saying this because some members make the mistake of Assad army fighters=Alawites.

 

[hyperman]

No one defends Shabihas, they were killers and should have been executed for killing innocents (case by case, not massacring alawites and stealing their women as slaves like what HTS did recenty). So don't get me wrong here.

But you can't deny that the majority of assads army were sunni fighters, which is still not surprising, majority of Syria are Sunnis. I'm saying this because some members make the mistake of Assad army fighters=Alawites.

Well it depends what you mean by "Assad's Army", the majority of that army towards the end was indeed Alawites and forced conscripts that were Sunnis. Before the war you can say its "majority sunni", but even then its misleading b/c the overwhelming amount of the officer core was Alawites, and that was by design, to prevent coups.

 

[battalion25]

Thats not exactly true, the najdi dawah narrative is that MIAW didn't differ in outlook compared to others in the earlier Hanabila or even Ibn Taymiyyah and Ibn al Qayyum, but if you look into it, there is a lot more to it that the lay salafis usually know about the movement. but thats a discussion for another time and place.

Find me a single Wahabi in KSA.. Brah it is fuking fictional. They never call themselves that stuff.. Never ever ever...

If you ask them they will tell you I am either Madkhali or just normal Salafi.

Maybe centuries ago but I swear there are no such thing today period

 

[hyperman]

They never call themselves that stuff

Yes, they don't call themselves that. B/c its a perogative term used against them. Its like Saying Qadianis don't exist, But clearly they do exist, even though anyone who is a Qadiani never calls himself a Qadiani.

The more accurate way to discern is to ask them, do you follow the Manhaj of MIAW, and then see whether they answer yes or no. The term Wahabi was used for those who follow MIAW and his outlook, nowadays they call themselves Salafis(a term they borrowed from Rashid Ridha), but this wasn't the term used by them in the 1st wave, where they referred to themselves differently, sometimes as al Muwahhidun.

 

[battalion25]

WASHINGTON, July 15 (Reuters) - The administration of President Donald Trump has asked Israel to stop its strikes on Syrian military forces in the south of the country, Axios reported on Tuesday, citing a U.S. official.
Israel told the Americans that it would cease the attacks on Tuesday evening, Axios reporter Barak Ravid posted on X, citing the official.

 

[Farhan23]

This is such a mood video.. This dude disarmed these causing mischief, he didn´t arrest them, harm them or anything but just left telling them to say Allahu Akbar (God is great) and he just left..

This is such a mood vid.. The video below

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[battalion25]

Yes, they don't call themselves that. B/c its a perogative term used against them. Its like Saying Qadianis don't exist, But clearly they do exist, even though anyone who is a Qadiani never calls himself a Qadiani.

The more accurate way to discern is to ask them, do you follow the Manhaj of MIAW, and then see whether they answer yes or no. The term Wahabi was used for those who follow MIAW and his outlook, nowadays they call themselves Salafis(a term they borrowed from Rashid Ridha), but this wasn't the term used by them in the 1st wave, where they referred to themselves differently, sometimes as al Muwahhidun.

Come on. COme on now!

This is apples and oragnes.. Qadians do exist they are Ahmadis.. But Wahabis don´t exist, then what are they if Wahabi is a perogative?

They have nothing to fall back on because they simply don´t exist..

There are many sects but that term doesn´t and don´t exist but rather used a term by some elements to describe anything against their political view.

Mark my words. I am an expert in this field.

This Term was first used by the Turks especially the ottomans to describe the followers of Abdul Wahab.. But he was a man and his followers followed him but they were not a sect.. It is like calling Assadists supporters a religious sect

 

[hyperman]

Come on. COme on now!

This is apples and oragnes.. Qadians do exist they are Ahmadis.. But Wahabis don´t exist then what are they if Wahabi is a perogative?

They have nothing to fall back because they simply don´t exist..

There are many sects but that term exist don´t exist but rather used a term by some elements to describe anything against their political view

Which Qadiani calls himself a Qadiani? 0

 

[battalion25]

Which Qadiani calls himself a Qadiani? 0

They call themselves Ahmadis... THey do exist..

The Wahabi term was first used by the Turks especially the ottomans to describe the followers of Abdul Wahab who were fighting them.. But he was a man and his followers followed him but they were not a sect.. It is like calling Assadists supporters a religious sect.

I have done a very extensive research on the matter and they never existed as a religious sect but more like a political ideology by anti-Ottoman elements during the ottoman period some of his saying were anti-Ottoman and turks but it never transformed into a religoius sect never ever.

Because he was turkish hater and Ottoman hater and all these who hated the Turks used his sayings and qouted him often, he was basically a hater and wrote a hate book on ottoman turks and but he was not a theologist

 

[shapurzolaktaf]

Well it depends what you mean by "Assad's Army", the majority of that army towards the end was indeed Alawites and forced conscripts that were Sunnis. Before the war you can say its "majority sunni", but even then its misleading b/c the overwhelming amount of the officer core was Alawites, and that was by design, to prevent coups.

I've a question for you, I expect honestly:
Could the "Turkish version" of these people enter the national Turkish army?

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[battalion25]

I've a question for you, I expect honestly:
Could the "Turkish version" of these people enter the national Turkish army?

He would enter in any army may it be the Turkish, Pakistan, Saudi, Egypt.. There is nothing wrong with a bearded singing man