Chinese SAC - FC-31/J-35 5th Gen Stealth Aircraft

The real question is - until that factory comes online - all famtasies of J-35s in Pakistan this year or otherwise lie in fantasia unless some token LRIPs are sent.

Infact @Deino - a recent interview by Acdre Chishti (who is “close” to the leadership circle) was now talking about J-20 in the context that if India gets Su-57 fast and J-35 is not ready Pakistan will ask for J-20.
So basically they underestimated (or were overpromised) delivery schedules and now taking reality checks.

But let’s not dampen the celebrations of “J-35 squadron ready by 2026”

In a recent interview, Air Commodore Khalid Chishti (R) hinted at a something other than the J-20. He stated that discussions are still in their early stages, which is why he couldn’t elaborate on television. What could it be?
 
"However, the target powerplant for the J-35A will be the WS-19, an engine in a similar thrust and size class to the F414 or EJ200"

Really?

F414 and EJ200 are the ultimate evolution of the 4th generation engines whereas WS-19 will be fully 5th generation with T/W ratio of 10-11:1, with 11:1 being more likely.
EJ-200 is 9:2 T/W ratio and F-414 is 9:1.

I think he kind of got confused with WS-21, since WS-13E is at 8.4:1 already and so a little over 9:1 for the ultimate evolution of the WS-13 core is reasonable.
I have seen you lurking around but didn't made any comments?
 
According to the information we have learned, Pakistan has formally or informally asked China to "sell J-20 to PAF" many times, but China rejected it every time.

It's not true. J20 is too big and expensive for Pakistan. Paf wanted something like J35, and we knew right at the beginning J35 will be inducted by China.
 
Rapidly changing geopolitics and newly emerging dangers for Pakistan from western side now demand PAF to go for J-20 instead of J-35. Longer range is a must for PAF now. That is why we have suddenly started hearing more and more about J-20.
 
Rapidly changing geopolitics and newly emerging dangers for Pakistan from western side now demand PAF to go for J-20 instead of J-35. Longer range is a must for PAF now. That is why we have suddenly started hearing more and more about J-20.


Exactly I also demand due to a "changing family situaltion and newly emerging dangers for my neighbour from western side now I demand my wife to go for a Lamborghini Revuelto instead of our currenent Renault Scenic Megane. Longer range is not really a must for me now but to impress my friends and my son now. That is why we have suddenly started hearing more and more about getting a new super-expecive and for me not available sports-car."

Guy ... get up, read and think on your own: We are not "hearing more and more about J-20" since it is possible or indeed a realistic option, but plain and simple since the PR-campaign against India is running on a high level and even more some super stupid fan-boys think they can make some points with this BS!
 
@MastanKhan is always right about you. Mind your tone while talking to others or don't bother talking.


It's really funny ... Yes, I'm tough when it comes to facts, perhaps brutal—some would say arrogant—to those who boast, lie, spread fake news, and, above all, denigrate others regardless of their origins.

And now you have a strange German here who's obsessed with numbers and data, who, in typical German fashion, doesn't take much pleasure in such things, and a whole bunch of fanboys who've been spreading all sorts of BS, boasting, and lying for years, but I'm the bad guy?!

And we have someone like MK, an arrogant old man, bitter, frustrated, at the end of his days, perhaps even sick, who's fine with anything, any means of lying, twisting the facts, deception and fraud, slander, and breaking promises, as long as his worldview looks good. He doesn't even care that the JF-17 doesn't have an Italian engine, isn't AMRAAM-compatible, doesn't have fuel tanks in the cockpit side walls as he claimed thru the years ... that you won't get a J-35 in August, that it won't be a Pakistani special version in the style of the F/A-18 – he spread all of this either just to spread lies or because he's actually too stupid to recognize a J-10 – but instead of admitting a mistake for once, perhaps even apologizing for inappropriate tone and lies, nothing... and his fan community like you follow their guru no matter how stupid, deluded, or deceitful what he says is, because he's "one of you" and I'm just an evil German.

As I said, some of you are really funny... even if such behavior is actually just embarrassing and pathetic!

Honestly, this whining about "Pakistan wants J-20 now" is just as embarrassing and pathetic as a three-year-old crying at the supermarket checkout because he doesn't get another lollipop from his mom, and the lady at the checkout (my role in this case) is definitely the bad guy because she's telling the little guy that things just won't go his way.
 
It's really funny ... Yes, I'm tough when it comes to facts, perhaps brutal—some would say arrogant—to those who boast, lie, spread fake news, and, above all, denigrate others regardless of their origins.

And now you have a strange German here who's obsessed with numbers and data, who, in typical German fashion, doesn't take much pleasure in such things, and a whole bunch of fanboys who've been spreading all sorts of BS, boasting, and lying for years, but I'm the bad guy?!

And we have someone like MK, an arrogant old man, bitter, frustrated, at the end of his days, perhaps even sick, who's fine with anything, any means of lying, twisting the facts, deception and fraud, slander, and breaking promises, as long as his worldview looks good. He doesn't even care that the JF-17 doesn't have an Italian engine, isn't AMRAAM-compatible, doesn't have fuel tanks in the cockpit side walls as he claimed thru the years ... that you won't get a J-35 in August, that it won't be a Pakistani special version in the style of the F/A-18 – he spread all of this either just to spread lies or because he's actually too stupid to recognize a J-10 – but instead of admitting a mistake for once, perhaps even apologizing for inappropriate tone and lies, nothing... and his fan community like you follow their guru no matter how stupid, deluded, or deceitful what he says is, because he's "one of you" and I'm just an evil German.

As I said, some of you are really funny... even if such behavior is actually just embarrassing and pathetic!
I always thought a German obsessed with numbers and data is just a normal German, not a strange one.
 
I always thought a German obsessed with numbers and data is just a normal German, not a strange one.

Well, but surely not to this obsessed level I have ;)
 
Well, but surely not to this obsessed level I have ;)
Maybe, you can try the Chinese way.

Often, we are very patient and engage in serious discussions of issues with those who disagree with us.

However, if we sense that the other party is not willing enough or that they are in a completely different class, we will terminate the dialog at the third step of the argument.

My Ignore List ...... Very long ......
 
Indeed, as it seems, also the PLAN Naval Aviation has finally revealed its first two operational (?) J-35 fighters.
And if I read their construction numbers correctly - namely 0011 & 0012 - they are LRIP aircraft!

(Image via @沙丘里的回声 from Weibo)

J-35 PLAN NA operational - 沙丘里的回声 - 1.jpgJ-35 PLAN NA operational - 沙丘里的回声 - 2.jpgJ-35 PLAN NA operational - 沙丘里的回声 - 3 + J-15T.jpgJ-35 PLAN NA operational - 沙丘里的回声 - 1 tail.jpg
 

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