Pakistan-India Conflict 2025: News Updates and Discussion

By constantly repeating untruths - they dont become truths. For 2 days your planes were grounded for a start off. Your nation begged for a cease fire - has that disappeared from your mind?
Please yaar drop the "im more French than the French". Your avatar and flags cant hide the that you have brown skin originating from India. Just dont be embarrassed by your roots - its becoming monotonous.

Yup, been saying this for ages. Guys whole English sentences stand out a mile off (French people construct English very differently) think he is being clever using Google transplate sometimes.

On another note, they come in in different IDs, repeat fake news, get debunked, then come on as a different ID, rinse and repeat....
 
That guy that come after Topi doesn't make much sense. USA have never denied any aircraft loss. Israel didn't loss any aircraft against Iran.

Whole world saw 5-0. Only 6-7th have question mark. Bathinda one was 100% Rafale.

Confident new evidence will show 7 minimum....
 
After 2019 action when Abhinandan was captured, most, if not all members from Pakistan had summarised that it was the last attack ever by India.
Then May 2025 happened in which India lost few fighters. Most members have again summarised that the loss of few fighters has made a debilitating impact on Indian war fighting capabilities. This was a tactical loss of platforms, and this assumption is likely to be proven wrong.

PAF definitely created a nasty surprise, but, considering this loss as having created a deterrent appears overestimated. Most members just start and end with PAF, because that was a sure success and they don’t want to talk about rest of the days. PAF was just one element and the dynamics changed when India changed the tactics and employed right platforms.

I am pretty sure that India would respond with a military action again, if a Pulwama like incident happens. I am not getting into the debate about who carried out the Pulwama attacks and if India has produced any proof or not.

The next one is likely to be more comprehensive with likely attack on military installations too. The consequent counterattacks are likely to be of higher intensity and limited usage of Navy as well as surface action can’t be ruled out either.
A bigger war is coming, that I am sure of.
That may well be the case, but then there goes your entire doctrine of keeping under the "threshold". As I've already described, your policy of "punishing Pakistan" for your own security failures is idiotic and doomed to fail. After every attack in Kashmir you've escalated, the attacks will not stop in Kashmir and your attacks will not deter Pakistan from supporting the Kashmiri Freedom fighters. You'll have to escalate after each attack until you will be forced to breach that threshold. The only end game in sight is a full blown war, in which case it's anyone's guess what will happen.
 
Lol who said that?? Nobody said anything like that.
That was the gist of most discussions on the previous iteration of this forum. If you disagree then, you are most welcome because it would turn into my word against your’s.
As Praveen Swamy said.
The issue with Parveen, is that he has to find faults with each and everything done by the government. Had they done what he is demanding, then he is likely to have criticised that too. That’s why no one listens to him anymore. He could be right or wrong, but I find him a nuisance because of this trait of his. Parveen has to display better line of thinking rather than one of always saying 180 deg opposite of what Indian government does or says. There are adequate number of professionals this side, who can analyse things pragmatically. Parveen is not the last word on these matters.

I am not defending a war, but trying to dispel the belief prophesied by many members that Indian forces have gone into a shell and don’t know what to do.
 
After 2019 action when Abhinandan was captured, most, if not all members from Pakistan had summarised that it was the last attack ever by India.
Then May 2025 happened in which India lost few fighters. Most members have again summarised that the loss of few fighters has made a debilitating impact on Indian war fighting capabilities. This was a tactical loss of platforms, and this assumption is likely to be proven wrong.

PAF definitely created a nasty surprise, but, considering this loss as having created a deterrent appears overestimated. Most members just start and end with PAF, because that was a sure success and they don’t want to talk about rest of the days. PAF was just one element and the dynamics changed when India changed the tactics and employed right platforms.

I am pretty sure that India would respond with a military action again, if a Pulwama like incident happens. I am not getting into the debate about who carried out the Pulwama attacks and if India has produced any proof or not.

The next one is likely to be more comprehensive with likely attack on military installations too. The consequent counterattacks are likely to be of higher intensity and limited usage of Navy as well as surface action can’t be ruled out either.
A bigger war is coming, that I am sure of.
You cant attack a sovreign nation and 3 months later still provide not 1 ounce of proof of proof the reason why. You cant kill children of the Pakistan soil and not expect a befitting response. You then get a bloody nose and ask the USA for a cease fire.
India ought to sort its shit out and get to the source of the Pulwama attack.
Your neighbor has already shown an adequate and professional response to you misdemeanors.
Your last sentence is correct IF India again thinks its some sort of bully - Pakistan is no Palestine bro - and India is certainly no Israel. The incompetence and carelessness of the air-force have shown us what India is capable of..........
 
That may well be the case, but then there goes your entire doctrine of keeping under the "threshold".
What is that “threshold”? When Kargil happened it was supposed to be Indian fighters crossing that side. That’s why Indian fighters were asked to remain our side due to that “threshold”.
2019 changed that. May 2025 has taken it even farther.
Basically that “threshold” is an unknown.
A risky assessment but still.
 
What is that “threshold”? When Kargil happened it was supposed to be Indian fighters crossing that side. That’s why Indian fighters were asked to remain our side due to that “threshold”.
2019 changed that. May 2025 has taken it even farther.
Basically that “threshold” is an unknown.
A risky assessment but still.
That "threshold" is the nuclear threshold that you indians keep barking on about, jumping up and down that you've responded to Pakistan's crying wolf all the time. The fact that you've been forced to escalate each and every time, and yet Pakistan continues to support the Kashmir freedom fighters means you can't deter Pakistan, and the attacks will continue, eventually leading to a full scale war. But that's ok, because you indians believe tantric technology will help you survive a nuclear exchange.
 
What is that “threshold”? When Kargil happened it was supposed to be Indian fighters crossing that side. That’s why Indian fighters were asked to remain our side due to that “threshold”.
2019 changed that. May 2025 has taken it even farther.
Basically that “threshold” is an unknown.
A risky assessment but still.
It's not a threshold. It's simply a continuation of your religious pogroms extended access the border to neighboring regions. Seen this before. It's an ancient religious war unlike anything anywhere in the world in recent history. The two day three day conflicts will continue sporadically until the escalation results in the big war.
Pakistan is fighting an existential struggle which in the long term it is going to lose. India will "win" going back 3000 years to the Vedic age it's masses so desire
 
You cant attack a sovreign nation and 3 months later still provide not 1 ounce of proof of proof the reason why. You cant kill children of the Pakistan soil and not expect a befitting response. You then get a bloody nose and ask the USA for a cease fire.
India ought to sort its shit out and get to the source of the Pulwama attack.
Your neighbor has already shown an adequate and professional response to you misdemeanors.
I am not taking any sides on this.
India has claimed that previous attempts to provide proof have not yielded any results and would not provide any proof due to that.

Israel-Palestine and India-Pak scenario are incomparable. The policy makers in India are well aware of that. I am not talking about Bhakts/fanboys though, who think that one side can decimate the other in a matter of few hours.

Kinetic action of past two times was started with very limited scope. My assumption is that it would be much larger the next time. Not justifying, but stating what appears to be the possibility.
 
Kinetic action of past two times was started with very limited scope. My assumption is that it would be much larger the next time. Not justifying, but stating what appears to be the possibility.
So we can very well assume a larger false flag by India.. resulting in attack on Pakistan?
 
That "threshold" is the nuclear threshold that you indians keep barking on about, jumping up and down that you've responded to Pakistan's crying wolf all the time. The fact that you've been forced to escalate each and every time, and yet Pakistan continues to support the Kashmir freedom fighters means you can't deter Pakistan, and the attacks will continue, eventually leading to a full scale war. But that's ok, because you indians believe tantric technology will help you survive a nuclear exchange.
Fact that your argument relies on “barking”, “jumping up and down”, “crying wolf” and “Tantric technology” shows that you could be frothing from your mouth while typing your argument.
This display of emotions is very common and quite a few people can’t argue even a simple line of disagreement without frothing from their mouth.
 
Fact that your argument relies on “barking”, “jumping up and down”, “crying wolf” and “Tantric technology” shows that you could be frothing from your mouth while typing your argument.
This display of emotions is very common and quite a few people can’t argue even a simple line of disagreement without frothing from their mouth.
Well, equally, the fact that you've had to rely on ad homin attacks about conspiracy theories and whatnot would equally suggest you have little to argue about. On the one hand you state all of this is leading to a full scale war, and yet somehow claim that can be achieved without triggering the nuclear threshold between two nuclear armed neighbours, which would certainly be a first in history. There goes your entire doctrine of staying below the nuclear threshold then.
 
Indian High Commissioner to Britain disclosing what we all knew.
"If Pakistan stops attacking Indian military facilities then the matter ends there"


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On the one hand you state all of this is leading to a full scale war, and yet somehow claim that can be achieved without triggering the nuclear threshold between two nuclear armed neighbours, which would certainly be a first in history. There goes your entire doctrine of staying below the nuclear threshold then.
I have no say on the nuclear threshold. It’s just an assumption based on the recent conflicts.
I am pretty sure that no one wants a nuclear conflict. But that so called threshold is based on many assumptions. The assumption of that threshold during Kargil was proven wrong in 2019 and again in 2025.
Will full scale conflict involving all forces breach that?
Many people might claim to know about it, but would have no idea about it.
 
Even after two months when India destroyed Rahim Yar Khan "airbase" of PAF but nobody is talking about it and only discussing shot down IAF aircraft

I wonder why???

Indians have explanation to do, to their Emirati overlords. It was their private airstrip they use during their hunting season.

I say leave it as it is. Let Emirati deal with their Indian lovers. It will be funny tough if the sheiks ask Indians to cough up the repair bill.
 

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