Tariq Habib Afridi
Registered Member
Acha inko b pata hai kay humaray jahazo say tau nahi giraaye jaanay PAF kay jahaz tau akash air defence say girwa diye?
India Lucky Not To Lose More Than Four Rafales
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Baibers_1260
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Fog of Denial
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DEFENCE SECURITY ASIA) June 01, 2025
In the wake of a deeply embarrassing series of reported aerial losses in the recent conflict with Pakistan, India’s refusal to allow French auditors access to its Rafale fleet has raised red flags across the global defence community.
Sources across international defence media and open-source intelligence channels indicate that Dassault Aviation, the French manufacturer of the Rafale fighter jet, dispatched an investigative audit team to India to determine whether systemic aircraft issues contributed to the alleged shootdowns.
However, the Indian government has reportedly blocked the team’s access to its Rafale squadrons, sparking speculation that New Delhi is shielding deeper operational vulnerabilities from external scrutiny.
On May 17, Pakistani Prime Minister Shehbaz Sharif alleged that his country’s air force had shot down six IAF fighters during what has become the most serious military exchange between the two nuclear-armed neighbours in nearly two decades.
Earlier Pakistani statements claimed five additional kills, including three Rafale multirole fighters, one Su-30MKI, and one MiG-29—all supposedly brought down by advanced Chinese-built PL-15E missiles fired from J-10C fighters operated by the Pakistan Air Force (PAF).
defencesecurityasia.com
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DEFENCE SECURITY ASIA) June 01, 2025
In the wake of a deeply embarrassing series of reported aerial losses in the recent conflict with Pakistan, India’s refusal to allow French auditors access to its Rafale fleet has raised red flags across the global defence community.
Sources across international defence media and open-source intelligence channels indicate that Dassault Aviation, the French manufacturer of the Rafale fighter jet, dispatched an investigative audit team to India to determine whether systemic aircraft issues contributed to the alleged shootdowns.
However, the Indian government has reportedly blocked the team’s access to its Rafale squadrons, sparking speculation that New Delhi is shielding deeper operational vulnerabilities from external scrutiny.
On May 17, Pakistani Prime Minister Shehbaz Sharif alleged that his country’s air force had shot down six IAF fighters during what has become the most serious military exchange between the two nuclear-armed neighbours in nearly two decades.
Earlier Pakistani statements claimed five additional kills, including three Rafale multirole fighters, one Su-30MKI, and one MiG-29—all supposedly brought down by advanced Chinese-built PL-15E missiles fired from J-10C fighters operated by the Pakistan Air Force (PAF).
Fog of Denial: India’s Rafale Debacle Deepens as Western Partners Demand Answers - Defence Security Asia
In the wake of a deeply embarrassing series of reported aerial losses in the recent conflict with Pakistan, India’s refusal to allow French auditors access to its Rafale fleet has raised red flags across the global defence community.
defencesecurityasia.com
Ali_Baba
VIP Member
lol - unbelievable.
So, Pakistan has not learnt anything from the red flag exercises it has attended, various antolian eagle exercises, but it needed China to teach Pakistan "NATO" tactics.
They really are clutching at straws and pissin in the wind to provide reasons for PAF successes in air combat.
Yasser76
Elite Member
We know their media lost it ages ago "20% of PAF destroyed", "Lahore Port destroyed"
PAF has instructors at RAF and TuAF, trains with USAF, TuAF. Used F-16 for 40 years
Yet China taught us NATO tactics....
NGAD IS THE BEST
Elite Member
Yeah brother we have western tactics and doctrine and IAF still has a Russian cold war era doctrine and tactics
BonPlan
Registered Member
only EF2000 from 3 of the 4 country that produce it.Interesting fact : There were at least four Rafale operators who participated in the RIAT 2025....France, Egypt, Greece, Qatar.
Although plenty of Eurofighter Typhoons were present but none of the above four operators brought in their Rafale jets .
Egypt, Grrece and Qatar were not represented if I remember well, so no risk os seeing a Rafale or a EF2000 (Qatar) or F16 from them.
so another tempest in a glass of water.
Windjammer
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If you had a brain you will be dangerous to humanity .
A simple Google search will rain on your parade.
And it was only the French President who had to go on Twitter to promote his endangered bird .
Yasser76
Elite Member
Tragically when you make up your BS you sometimes forget we have access to the internet
Egypt, Greece, Qatar and France (both AF and Navy) were all there and not a single Rafle was bought along. Below is official list of confirmed aircraft, but do not expect you to believe that or your eyes as it must be Pakistani propaganda.....
Baibers_1260
Trusted Member
Désolé, mais votre niveau d'anglais est insuffisant. Tous les Français instruits parlent et écrivent bien anglais.
Votre anglais ressemble à celui d'un Indien peu instruit. Vous avez très peu de connaissances sur l'industrie aéronautique française.
Hakikat ve Hikmet
VIP Member
The PAF cracked the Ra-fails like coconuts and squeezed them like lemons....
Blain2
THINK TANK: CONSULTANT
Lol, these clowns in their Bollywood media are a cunning bunch.
They have suffered reverses at PAF's hands since 1959 (first PAF shoot-down of the IAF aircraft), then initially US/UK trained PAF going into action in 1965, 1971 and delivering further reverses to them, and then PAF evolving its own doctrine which came to fore in 2019 and 2025. We have had close to 50 major exercises with US/NATO in just the past 20 years yet as per these cunning morons looking to deflect, PAF learned its "NATO tactics" from China.
PAF employs "Pakistani" tactics (which we learn, exercise and evolve on our own) after interacting with various other air forces and even more intensely in our own annual exercises. They know this as clearly as night and day yet they have a habit to excuse their own failures by externalizing Pakistan's capabilities.
In 1965 and 1971, they cried about PAF using American tactics and weapons. Then they did the same in 2019 and now in 2025, they are using the China card to somehow claim and get sympathy for fighting a two front war.
In any case, as long as Pakistan continues to enhance its air power, let there be more "NATO tactics" conveyed to us by China.
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TopGun786
Trusted Member
It was better if you made some research before speaking. But as said before you are just a normal troll.
RafaleSlayer
Registered Member
very rare breed as in only found in India not rare as in numbers there is a whole 1.5 fucking billion bunch
