PAF J-10CE News, Updates and Discussion

[Blain2]

these Indians are so fucked up in their heads they can't make up their minds, on one end they say China produces junk and provided tier 2 junk to Pakistan on the other end they claim they were fighting China which provides 80% of arsenal to Pakistan, and Pakistan is a Chinese test lab.

It is their dismal inferiority complex which puts down Chinese industrial achievements, to their own detriment, in-order to make themselves feel good.
Chinese industrial quality is something that India cannot even grasp. This is the reality of the situation.
I am actually fine with them continuing to underestimate Pakistan and China. We need to continue working quietly and seriously preparing for the next war.
God bless Pak-China collaboration. It is a god-send and a fruit of 60+ years of trust and staying the course with each other.
BTW, to this day, Pakistan is open for talks but this offer is not coming from a place of weakness, rather it is from a forward-looking understanding that all of this will have to be discussed across a table:

Pakistan ready for ‘meaningful dialogue’ with India, PM Shehbaz reiterates in talks with UK envoy​

 

[SMC]

1 was found on the ground (pic of one engine and the tail). No one knows why, at least not a single one on this forum.
the rest is pakistanese fantasy.

No, why doesn't the Indian government or military tell what the numbers are?

 

[Ak01]

1 was found on the ground (pic of one engine and the tail). No one knows why, at least not a single one on this forum.
the rest is pakistanese fantasy.

amazing that during a combat situation the cope is that the plane just fell out of the sky. Literally bodes so much worse on dassault vs was shot out of the sky- something expected for literally any fighter

 

[Waz]

Brothers how many J-10's currently does the PAF operate? I have seen conflicting figures between 20-36.

 

[Ak01]

Brothers how many J-10's currently does the PAF operate? I have seen conflicting figures between 20-36.

20

 

[RafaleSlayer]

amazing that during a combat situation the cope is that the plane just fell out of the sky. Literally bodes so much worse on dassault vs was shot out of the sky- something expected for literally any fighter

it had to take a dump and saw the fields below, it landed vertically without French building that feature in the plane

 

[TopGun786]

No one knows why

Who told you no one knows?
99.99 % Indians and 100% of the rest of the world knows why Rafale parts were scattered there.

 

[SD 10]

It is their dismal inferiority complex which puts down Chinese industrial achievements, to their own detriment, in-order to make themselves feel good.
Chinese industrial quality is something that India cannot even grasp. This is the reality of the situation.
I am actually fine with them continuing to underestimate Pakistan and China. We need to continue working quietly and seriously preparing for the next war.
God bless Pak-China collaboration. It is a god-send and a fruit of 60+ years of trust and staying the course with each other.
BTW, to this day, Pakistan is open for talks but this offer is not coming from a place of weakness, rather it is from an future looking understand that all of this will have to be discussed across a table:

Pakistan ready for ‘meaningful dialogue’ with India, PM Shehbaz reiterates in talks with UK envoy​

just showing weakness nothing more!

 

[GriffinsRule]

Not so long ago, all the Indians here would be jumping up and down on how PAF was hiding it's crashes, after learning about the said crashes from the forum or online sources.
The current situation reminds me of the phrase, choor ki daari main tinka

 

[RajaBaja]

It's your opinion.
Mine is that India didn't expect a so strong opposition because
1) they had to answer to the terrorsit coup,
2) they nearly said where and when they wanted to bomb so as to avoid an escalation.
3) they didn't destroyed radars and SAM first.

They made an error. The counter strike was harde than expected. So they take time to adjust the tactic and, on the contrary of the first raid, destroyed some radars, SAM, airfields...

You can be sure than next time they will strike HQ, SAM, radars, runaway... FIRST OF ALL.

Ranjeet - Stop! You've been arguing with everyone like your Dad painted one of the Rafale's we shot down. It's ok, its human resource issue that out of 1.4 BILLION people, you couldn't find 26 good pilots that day to fly and save your nose in front of Daddy PAF.

Lastly, PLEASE keep this stupid narrative away. You were told to bomb and violate a sovereign country's airspace. THAT is the HIGHEST escalation to start a war. You don't need anything else.

But when the PAF started to shoot in SELF DEFENSE........and you couldn't defend yourself against PL-15's, now your claim that you were told to NOT escalate? How is defending against missiles in YOUR OWN airspace an escalation?

How dumb and illogical can it get?

Reality, in two lines: We created a perfect electronic storm. I call it "electronic chaos". In that chaos, Rafale couldn't detect the PL-15 missile's beams on it and fell like a drunk old man.

 

[Bentley777]

@Deino @Michael does China has something like AGM-158 JASSM stand off weapon or in development.

 

[Michael]

@Deino @Michael does China has something like AGM-158 JASSM stand off weapon or in development.

AKF98A

 

[Bentley777]

AKF98A
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Who can carry it

 

[Michael]

Who can carry it

Currently, it is carried primarily by the J-16. Theoretically, the J-10CE could carry the AKF98A. but I haven't seen pictures of it.

This missile is not in great demand by the PLAAF.The PLAAF does equip some, but not in large numbers. China's main purpose of developing this missile is technology reserve and foreign export.

The PLAGF undertakes strike missions up to 1,000 KM; the PLARF undertakes strike missions beyond 1,000 KM.
PLAAF mainly undertakes the mission of seizing air control, including air-to-air strikes and destroying enemy air defense forces. This reliance on stealth missiles to hit ground targets is not their core mission.

 

[Bentley777]

Currently, it is carried primarily by the J-16. Theoretically, the J-10CE could carry the AKF98A. but I haven't seen pictures of it.

This missile is not in great demand by the PLAAF.The PLAAF does equip some, but not in large numbers. China's main purpose of developing this missile is technology reserve and foreign export.

The PLAGF undertakes strike missions up to 1,000 KM; the PLARF undertakes strike missions beyond 1,000 KM.
PLAAF mainly undertakes the mission of seizing air control, including air-to-air strikes and destroying enemy air defense forces. This reliance on stealth missiles to hit ground targets is not their core mission.

Yeah i have been researching and I also found out that reliance on stealth missiles to hit ground targets is not their core mission of PLAAF. Was researching which airlauch missiles PAF can get for j10c like AGM-158 JASSM OR SCALP. China is using YJ12 and YJ83 saw YJ21E but don't know who can carry it its huge. PAF took cm400akg and HD1A already may be we should take AKF98A for indian airbases. Or maybe develop air launched supersonic cruise missile Based on YJ12.