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[Yasser76]

That seems to be the motto. Do nothing, win.

Yeah, lots and lots of Indian "Winning" going on I see....

 

[Dalit]

@Dalit bro,

India will have to accept US demands.

What are those US demands?

Regards

On the trade front, Trump has criticized India's tariffs, calling them "far too high" and among the highest in the world. He has also highlighted what he calls "obnoxious non-monetary trade barriers." As a result of a failure to reach an interim trade deal, the US has imposed a 25% tariff on all goods imported from India. A key sticking point in negotiations has been India's reluctance to open its agriculture and dairy sectors to American imports, as these are politically and economically sensitive areas in India.

Beyond trade, Trump has also demanded that India align its foreign policy more closely with the United States. He has announced an additional, unspecified penalty on India for its continued purchase of energy and military equipment from Russia. He has also expressed disapproval of India's membership in the BRICS group, which he views as "anti-American."

Does that clear things up for you?

 

[Vkdindian1]

Bookmarked this thread. I hope many of these experts would be here to accept that they have bitten dust.

Like many times before.

 

[SoulSpokesman]

@Dalit bro,

Thanks, that was very helpful. So we will have to do three things.

1. Cut down import duties
2. Cut down on Russian oil and arms purchase
3. Open up our agri/diary sectors.

Now, I see IND complying on #1 and #2, but not on #3. In fact on 1, I believe we are open to zero reciprocal duties, barring agri and dairy sectors.

What do you say>

Regards

 

[r3alist]

I rate them if they stand by Russia through all this.

I would also agree.

Trying to be fair and sensible, India is the biggest post-colonial state, what do they not know? Therefore ultimately, alongside this comes a burden to decide how they align themselves and stay true to their historical experience


If they go pro Russia, this could accelerate brics, and potentially brics new currency

Trump has opened an ambiguously said India cannot support brics

 

[r3alist]

US and Indian relations weren’t at this level just 2 decades back. The change happened Jaswant Singh was our EAM under Vajpayee.
Till then Delhi used to be against US and had taken many principled positions that didn’t allow relations to prosper. There is historical background to that and 1971 was one of the big ones.
It was under Jaswant that India decided to manoeuvre the Indian policies so as to make them dynamic to weigh in what is good for us ans what is not.
Multiple US administrations and Presidents too worked to make it deeper. India ended up buying more military equipment from US than any non-NATO ally.

Were these steps taken by blindsiding the other side? NO.
Both sides moved forward after weighing in all the angles.

But, few kids here are trying to infer that India blindsided the US. Indo-Russian relations were always known very well to everyone.

Whatever, India does is in the open domain. It has clearly stated the reasons for what it does with nations.

India bought Russian oil. At that time the Europeans were buying more energy from Russia than anyone else, but they were pointing fingers at others. India openly showed the mirror to them and they backed off. Gradually they have moved away but not yet completely.


Modi is no Imran Khan who announces his US policies on media by making bombastic statements. Much more happens behind the limelight.
That is what India is doing. It has drawn the red lines that it wouldn’t cross. Russian friendship appears to one of those.
If that means taking on Trump then it is for Trump to decide.

I can't disagree with much, it's a good post, however India will get accused of perfidy in the same way Pakistan was

Both nations are effectively managing their interests with a superpower


Every international relationship by definition is frenemy

 

[r3alist]

Yes, we know how the SEATO and CENTO membership helped Pakistan in the defence of Dhaka, how Pakistan was treated by Clinton after the Mujahidin drove the Soviets out of Afghanistan, how Bush threatened to bomb Pakistan back into the Stone Age, how Raymond Davies murdered Pakistanis in cold blood and got away after paying blood money, how Pakistan handed over Afia Siddique to the Americans, how Navy Seals violated Pakistani airspace, killed OBL in the heart of a garrison town and walked away without the PAF being able to do anything about it, and how Trump withheld billions of dollars in CSF for services Pakistan had already rendered. The list of what Pakistan has been through is endless.

I don't know what any of that serves other for your emotional benefit

 

[r3alist]

For decades, the americans gave india a lot of support, investment and privileges in ALL fields for a REASON. Now the americans want returns for everything they have done for india. Trump wants his and america's dues. indians can't deliver on this and so trump and the americans are furious with the indians.

PS Did ANYONE EVER believe that the indians could take on the Chinese and be a bulwark against the Chinese on behalf of the americans and the west?...........

Well they had to do a better job than they are, they had to be enough to at least give Chinese something to think about

I still maintain some niggling thought that India is showing strategic incompetence with its air force procurement.... After all if you are impotent no one will ask you to do anything

And this might be fairly smart, eventually the other side will Work it out and get annoyed

It's very much a frenemy scenario

The door is still open for India to come into the tent, simultaneously the more India resists the less patience there is and patience will become coercion

However, just like human to Human relations, if you feel like you have been exceptionally patient with someone and they have disappointed you, then your anger will be proportional to that

Through much pain and angst, the Pakistan America equation at least has a level of transparency and realism on expectation

Indian America meant to have shared values

 

[r3alist]

Neutrality doesn't really exist in this world, unless you don't have to do anything with both of the parties.

Some nations are simply too big to be neutral

When you are too big, and you are fighting for neutrality, you don't just have one potentially enemy, but several, I don't get these big Indian strategic thinkers who think that neutrality is not an aggressive position, it really is, and everyone can see it

China will not miss the opportunity to assert its dominance in the region, and America will also not miss the opportunity to show that they cannot be fooled and will allow India to just increase its global power

So you have India, then the two biggest powers in the world trying to coerce it.


No Russia for meaningful support


just my view of things

 

[PakFactor]

Let's see how the Indians survive Trump. I want to see how shrewd the Indians really are. Can they outsmart Trump? I don't think so, but time will tell.

They will. Trump does more U-turns than Imran Khan, and none within the U.S. is taking him seriously enough. Remember, overall, Trump is here for a limited time. He was an anomaly, a black swan.

 

[Dalit]

They will. Trump does more U-turns than Imran Khan, and none within the U.S. is taking him seriously enough. Remember, overall, Trump is here for a limited time. He was an anomaly, a black swan.

Trump will only do a U-turn once his objectives are met. Be rest assured.

 

[Dalit]

Bookmarked this thread. I hope many of these experts would be here to accept that they have bitten dust.

Like many times before.

I have bookmarked many other threads where Indians were dead wrong. You guys still haven't answered.

 

[PakFactor]

Trump will only do a U-turn once his objectives are met. Be rest assured.

No, he does it when he knows his actions will lead to a f-ck-up, as we've already seen in the first half of this year.

 

[Surya2023]

@Dalit bro,

Thanks, that was very helpful. So we will have to do three things.

1. Cut down import duties
2. Cut down on Russian oil and arms purchase
3. Open up our agri/diary sectors.

Now, I see IND complying on #1 and #2, but not on #3. In fact on 1, I believe we are open to zero reciprocal duties, barring agri and dairy sectors.

What do you say>

Regards

Agriculture and Dairy should never be open to USA. Our small farmers will never be able to sustain the onslaught of mega corporations. This will go the same way as mom and pop shops in USA. Now you can rarely see them in USA as they could not survive the tactics of corporations.
Our society will be torn and we will be devastated as our farm holdings cannot compete with US Farming companies. What ever trump imposes as tariffs or penalties it is ok. India is standing up to many western countries on behalf of small farmers in many developing and under developed countries. Once we allow them we won’t be able to undo it.

 

[fitpOsitive]

Some nations are simply too big to be neutral

When you are too big, and you are fighting for neutrality, you don't just have one potentially enemy, but several, I don't get these big Indian strategic thinkers who think that neutrality is not an aggressive position, it really is, and everyone can see it

China will not miss the opportunity to assert its dominance in the region, and America will also not miss the opportunity to show that they cannot be fooled and will allow India to just increase its global power

So you have India, then the two biggest powers in the world trying to coerce it.


No Russia for meaningful support


just my view of things

Correct.
Think of a situation where you a distributing free stuff to people. They start fighting with each other and your whole program gets spoiled. When you discipline them, are you neutral? You are. But will they see you as neutral?
USA is literally running the world economy at the moment. India earns from USA and tries to be smart. JS and RT started lecturing west on how to be smart and civil. Then India became part of Brics. It's like you are earning from USA and at the same time you are trying to destroy USA. Then India started the rerouting of Russian oil. India tried to rape both Russia and Europe at a time. I heard some Germans expressing their concern over it.
India is simply not realizing what shit they are in. Pakistan is also getting dangerously close to us establishment.