US to soon initiate Military support to Pakistan along with bi-lateral Trade growth, the Economist report

According to your Indian understanding, QUAD is just a leisurely gathering? A gathering where India gets to decide what it can do without the disapproval of other QUAD members?

Don't be a toddler. I know your ego is badly bruised.

Why is Trump accusing India? Shouldn't your leader Modi give a befitting reply to Trump if India feels it has no obligations towards the US? Why is the US making demands and India remaining silent?
They are discussing. Already switched to US and ME oil purchases
 
You could have just said renewal of Transactional Relationship

Which was ONLY allowed because Pakistan defeated the much vaunted indian military, wasting the trillions of dollars america and the west invested in india for over 30 years in building it up as a bulwark against China.
 
Raja baba you are overly optimistic about this latest bonding between the 2 countries. Trump is like a chameleon changing his colours. Take it with a grain of potohar pink salt 🧂

G Sir, someone has to be optimistic :). I think we've learned the trick called true diplomacy, per my understanding. For once in our lifetime, we are dealing with the world based on "interests only". Not "friends" and "brothers" and "allies" tags like we did for 70 years. Interests are long term so relations will remain long term also. No one dislikes profits coming in billions over time.
 
American administrations have always preferred to do business with the Pakistan military especially the Republican presidents
Eisenhower
Nixon
Ford
Reagan
Bush Sr was the only exception
Bush Jr
And now Trump
 
Which was ONLY allowed because Pakistan defeated the much vaunted indian military, wasting the trillions of dollars america and the west invested in india for over 30 years in building it up as a bulwark against China.

US should have known the Indians would use them for their influence and embolden them.

This nearly risked a nuclear war. I am sure the Americans have now realised Indians are not sincere and a danger to the world.
 
G Sir, someone has to be optimistic :). I think we've learned the trick called true diplomacy, per my understanding. For once in our lifetime, we are dealing with the world based on "interests only". Not "friends" and "brothers" and "allies" tags like we did for 70 years. Interests are long term so relations will remain long term also. No one dislikes profits coming in billions over time.
But with China we are Iron-brothers right ✅
 
US should have known the Indians would use them for their influence and embolden them.

This nearly risked a nuclear war. I am sure the Americans have now realised Indians are not sincere and a danger to the world.

Also, the americans and the west have realised that no matter how many trillions of dollars you invest in india, they will NEVER EVER be able to take on China.
 
Anything at the expense of India is a bonus. We understand who our real ally is. It doesn't mean that Pakistan should refuse the offer. Pakistan needs to focus on trade with the US.
Pakistan never developed any industries or products that Western consumers or corporations would be interested in. For example Japan offered better cars and electronics, China offered cheap manufacturing and India offered cheap IT services. The GCC offered cheap energy. These formed the basis of big trade relationships with the West. What do we offer ? A few more towels or rice ? Some more pink salt ? I don't really believe the news over these mineral deposits that have now magically appeared.

The only reason the US cozied up to Pakistan in the past was to use the country against somebody, so who is it this time ? The only logic I see is trying to prevent Pakistan from getting closer to Iran and China and as a foil against India.
 
But with China we are Iron-brothers right ✅

1) Iron brothers with China. ALL Strategic defense, research and scientific development with China. Add Turkey as number 2 for strategic defense ties.

2) US: Largest trade partner and growing investments into Pakistan worth billions. US will have dependency on Pakistan to get Rare earth minerals outside of China (currently 90% China, its a Monopoly). Future business in extraction and selling Oil, Minerals (Gold, Copper, Rare Earths). Limited military cooperation for NON-critical defense articles.

3) EU plus Russia: Second tier business and trade partners. Limited defense cooperation for NON-essential items.

We are the 5th largest population in the world. If we start to grow properly, just like India and China, we become the 5th largest market for other nations.


1 India 1,463,865,525

2 China 1,416,096,094

3 United States 347,275,807

4 Indonesia 285,721,236

5 Pakistan 255,219,554
 
Also, the americans and the west have realised that no matter how many trillions of dollars you invest in india, they will NEVER EVER be able to take on China.

They’ve realized that India will never sacrifice its own people to fight someone else’s war — no matter how hard they try to push.

India is acting purely in its own national interest, and now they’re frustrated because they can’t control that.
 
Pakistanis will get happy and stat jumping up and down like monkeys on a hot surface

then new administration will cancel it and same Pakistanis will cry

move away from US and their weapons its not 1990s anymore

PL-15 scored a kill on the most advanced Western jet from over 200km and yet Pakistanis still begging

Its lunacy. While some fanboys get their juices going with the thoughts of F16v and aim120ds, in their over excitement, they are not thinking this through. F16 a,b,c...x,y,z will not be carrying the new generation of American a2a missiles. aim120d is the ceiling of F16 platform. While J10c/PL15 combo is already deadly, it can further be enhanced, if needed.
 
They’ve realized that India will never sacrifice its own people to fight someone else’s war — no matter how hard they try to push.

India is acting purely in its own national interest, and now they’re frustrated because they can’t control that.

This realization should've been explained to them when $3 Trillion worth of American economy was being asked from Clinton to grow India to fight China....... at that time you guys only promised to fight China and be an all weather American ally. That's why Trump is tripping now. Because if they had kept that economy internally, their debt and money problems will be much less today.
 

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