Aafia Siddiqi's lawyer speaks-gives new light on injustice and suffering

[Mav3rick]

In this case, she was practically given up on by the establishment, because they wanted better ties with the US.

The only ones who started making noise were a bunch of NGOs, including international ones. This out pressure on the Pakistan civilian governments as well.

To this day, the establishment doesn't give a damn about Asfia Sidiqi, and would rather she just dies and everyone just forget about her, because despite everything they want to increase relations with the US.

Not just Pakistan or the Pakistani Establishment, EACH & EVERY Country of this world wants to have relations with the US, every human wants to have better relations with the US, most of the world wants to migrate to and live in the US; even blocks want good relations with the US. So, buddy, don't portray our effort as something that is undesired or unwanted.

As for Aafia Siddiq, I wonder why the US chose this 1 lady out of what 20 million females her age (I guess 30% adult female population of the 50% female population of the overall population of the country in 2001) to bring to the US and make an example out of. My gut says, she must have done something or that she must have been involved in something. It's not like the US would undertake the kind of effort just to get this 1 woman for no reason at all. And she got convicted by a US court, which makes her a criminal. So, next I wonder why we are wasting the kind of resources on 1 criminal and why not all criminals of Pakistani heritage all over the world?

 

[That_Guy]

Reviving an old thread and replying to my comment from last year, huh? You must be special.

Not just Pakistan or the Pakistani Establishment, EACH & EVERY Country of this world wants to have relations with the US, every human wants to have better relations with the US, most of the world wants to migrate to and live in the US; even blocks want good relations with the US. So, buddy, don't portray our effort as something that is undesired or unwanted.

Exaggerated and irrelevant.

As for Aafia Siddiq, I wonder why the US chose this 1 lady out of what 20 million females her age (I guess 30% adult female population of the 50% female population of the overall population of the country in 2001) to bring to the US and make an example out of. My gut says, she must have done something or that she must have been involved in something. It's not like the US would undertake the kind of effort just to get this 1 woman for no reason at all. And she got convicted by a US court, which makes her a criminal. So, next I wonder why we are wasting the kind of resources on 1 criminal and why not all criminals of Pakistani heritage all over the world?

Your opinion here is so stupid and full of assumptions based on nothing that it's not worth addressing.

Its also clear that you don't remember the hysteria in the years following 9/11 where innocent people were picked up and thrown in prison.

I'm will to take a guess and say you're in your 20s, because that is the only thing that explains your ignorance.

 

[Mav3rick]

Your opinion here is so stupid and full of assumptions based on nothing that it's not worth addressing.

Its also clear that you don't remember the hysteria in the years following 9/11 where innocent people were picked up and thrown in prison.

I'm will to take a guess and say you're in your 20s, because that is the only thing that explains your ignorance.

Opinions can indeed be stupid, on the other hand, even the best of opinions could be percived as such just because someone does not agree to some point. Also, I don't really enjoy getting personal, and yes I am indeed that old to have learnt that.

As for the days when 9/11 happened, I was a University student at the time so I do indeed recall whatever happened. And thus I stick to my opinion, which is based on deduced logic, that the entire political and judicial force of the US would not target, and continue to keep this 1 woman under custody absent strong evidence. You can politely continue to disagree.

 

[That_Guy]

Opinions can indeed be stupid, on the other hand, even the best of opinions could be percived as such just because someone does not agree to some point. Also, I don't really enjoy getting personal, and yes I am indeed that old to have learnt that.

As for the days when 9/11 happened, I was a University student at the time so I do indeed recall whatever happened. And thus I stick to my opinion, which is based on deduced logic, that the entire political and judicial force of the US would not target, and continue to keep this 1 woman under custody absent strong evidence. You can politely continue to disagree.

If they had evidence, they would have allowed her a fair trial, and they did not.

Also, the US detained hundreds without evidence or fair trials, and continue to hold people without charge.

Keep your shit opinion to yourself, child. And stop pretending to be older than you are.

 

[Mav3rick]

If they had evidence, they would have allowed her a fair trial, and they did not.

Also, the US detained hundreds without evidence or fair trials, and continue to hold people without charge.

Keep your shit opinion to yourself, child. And stop pretending to be older than you are.

As I wrote earlier, I don't really like to get too personal, but there is a limit.

And, again, neither you nor your family were a part of the trial proceedings so it is you who must keep his narrow opinions to himself.

The US did not hold a single person "without charge" within the US borders, they were all held offsite; within the US borders, everyone is accountable. Perhaps, this too is something beyond your comprehension, perhaps your old age is a factor in your limitations.

 

[Eshay101]

I still don't have the slightest clue why a woman with 3 young kids and degrees in biology from U.S. universities, with no apparent militant training, was targeted by ISI for pickup, transported to Afghanistan, then tried and jailed for life in U.S. She does have a checkered personal life though. For example, she had an extremely brief 'marriage' with this character:

Ammar al-Balushi or Amar Baloch; born Ali Abdul Aziz Ali on 29 August 1977) is a Pakistani (Balochi) citizen who has been in American custody at the Guantanamo Bay detention camp since 2006. He was arrested in the Pakistani city of Karachi in 2003 before being transferred; the series of criminal charges against him include: "facilitating the 9/11 attackers, acting as a courier for Osama bin Laden and plotting to crash a plane packed with explosives into the U.S. consulate in Karachi." He is a nephew of the Pakistani terrorist Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, who served as a senior official of al-Qaeda between the late 1980s and early 2000s; and a cousin of the Pakistani terrorist Ramzi Ahmed Yousef, who played a key role in the 1993 World Trade Center bombing, the Philippine Airlines Flight 434 bombing, and the high-profile Bojinka plot.

I will reserve my sympathies for the thousands of Pakistani soldiers and civilians who had their lives ended by the Taliban and Al Qaeda the same Taliban which Aafia had sympathies with.

 

[That_Guy]

As I wrote earlier, I don't really like to get too personal, but there is a limit.

And, again, neither you nor your family were a part of the trial proceedings so it is you who must keep his narrow opinions to himself.

The US did not hold a single person "without charge" within the US borders, they were all held offsite; within the US borders, everyone is accountable. Perhaps, this too is something beyond your comprehension, perhaps your old age is a factor in your limitations.

No, they simply had a different classification, and passed laws that allowed them to detain people indefinitely. While most were held in Gitmo, not all of them were.

You have no idea what you're talking about.

You are a troll.

 

[fitpOsitive]

The biggest mistake of Aafia's life and Dr Abdul Qadeers life was returning to Pakistan.
Full stop.

 

[Saifullah]

She is where she needs to be, and she will likely die there. End of story.

Disgusting! Supporting the illegal detention of a person because she wasn’t even given a fair trial. People like you who support her illegal abduction such get the same treatment. In Sha Allah one day you or one of your family members suffers from what Aafia suffered so you understand what it means to have a free and fair trial.

 

[Saifullah]

Its also clear that you don't remember the hysteria in the years following 9/11 where innocent people were picked up and thrown in prison.

I know a few Canadian Muslims who were victim to that. Years wasted until they were proven innocent. They would literally send agents to masjids and talk about controversial subjects. A lot of the innocent ones who were picked up said something out of emotions to some undercover agent at a masjid. They spent years in jail and got their name tarnished just to be proven completely innocent in a few years and released from jail.
Not saying all the ones charged post 9/11 were innocent but a big number of innocents were also arrested.

 

[That_Guy]

And evidently, you are a senseless retard.

And there is absolutely no point in any communication with a retard!

You probably don't even know how many people are still being detained without charges.

And yet, I'm the retard.

 

[That_Guy]

I know a few Canadian Muslims who were victim to that. Years wasted until they were proven innocent. They would literally send agents to masjids and talk about controversial subjects. A lot of the innocent ones who were picked up said something out of emotions to some undercover agent at a masjid. They spent years in jail and got their name tarnished just to be proven completely innocent in a few years and released from jail.
Not saying all the ones charged post 9/11 were innocent but a big number of innocents were also arrested.

Quite a lot got picked up, including my cousin. They tried to pin charges on him, until my aunt and uncle showed video evidence that he was on a trip with his friends to Montreal, instead of Pakistan which he had never been to.

Couldn't even sue, because no lawyer was willing to take the case at the time.

 

[Feroze]

In this case, she was practically given up on by the establishment, because they wanted better ties with the US.

The only ones who started making noise were a bunch of NGOs, including international ones. This out pressure on the Pakistan civilian governments as well.

To this day, the establishment doesn't give a damn about Asfia Sidiqi, and would rather she just dies and everyone just forget about her, because despite everything they want to increase relations with the US.

I think it is also Aafia Siddiqui's fault too for working with extremist elements in Afghanistan. So she sort of deserves her punishment by USA.

 

[That_Guy]

I think it is also Aafia Siddiqui's fault too for working with extremist elements in Afghanistan. So she sort of deserves her punishment by USA.

To be clear, the evidence against her is questionable.

Regardless, whether she's guilty or not, it should have been a fair trial.

 

[Feroze]

To be clear, the evidence against her is questionable.

Regardless, whether she's guilty or not, it should have been a fair trial.

I agree with you that the evidence against Aafia Siddiqui is questionable.

Talk to you later.