Pakistan Rocket Force Command News and Discussions

Closer integration with PLA Joint Operations Command Center (JOCC).
PA officers are embedded with PLA JOCC for a long time per Prawin Sawhney.

Close integration with PLA doctrine and access to PLA EW, Detection, navigation, BEIDOU BDS for precision land and land to sea attacks.

Land based conventional and non-conventional missile under one integrated command for deterrence and offensive punishment, and close integration with PAF, PN, nuclear triad.
SPD can easily work with new PARF.

To achieve Anti-Access/Area Denial (A2/AD).

Multi-Domain Precision Warfare (MDPW) capabilities alongside PLA, and development at formal level for PA.

It is a strategic move by PA.
Before you express this view, you should first carefully study the PLA's current organizational structure and command system.
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The PLA's current joint combat system is built on this organizational structure, which is completely incompatible with Pakistan's command system.
 
What did I exactly 'spill' here? That how inept and out dated our entire setup is? Even if I was not under an oath, I aint stupid enough to spill out sensitive info anywhere bcz you can easily get caught. There's no anoymity in this age. On top of that, we have a duty towards Allah SWT to not siphon state secrets. Sensitive info is of a very different nature i.e Engineering drawings, plans, missile variants, numbers, launchers, locations, production sites, production rates, and a lot more. We'd never let anyone sniff that. And I dont understand this 'he might be an Indian' obsession with everything. Someone can be a Pakistani and still say things about our missile program that are quite humbling.

It is not what you say about Pakistan's missile programme, we have all been criticising this week, it is your conduct, it stands out much more then you think it does. You probably think you are being clever, people on here are brighter.

Just "bcz" you "aint stupid" does not mean we are not either chum. Why the sudden attacks all the time, how get some defensive and personal straight away?

Let me guess, you used to be French in a past life?
 
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China Will Help Pakistan to become the Leading Military Power in the Region​

 
Today's Pakistan Independence Day! And on this independence day comes a huge announcement to activate "Pakistan Army's Rocket Force". We are using the word "activate" as the organization had already been built under silence. There are two aspects to reading the purpose and need for this newly created "Rocket Force". We'll cover the geo-political and geo-Strategic aspects first:

A few things happened way too quickly for Pakistan that usually happen over many years. A short war with India, loss of critical and super expensive assets by India. A global embarrassment of losing French Rafale's by Chinese J-10C and overall excellent battlespace management by Pakistan's military. This was not a short war. This was a "reset" moment for many world militaries, including the US, UK and NATO. This was what they had been planning on a future war to be, this was a complete architecture and execution of strategy and tactics that they had spent billions after billions since year 2000 when they realized "China is growing". This is the war they expected them to have between US and China, India and China, or NATO and Russia. But as it was obvious, they never thought this war would be fought between Pakistan and India. With Pakistan gaining such a decisive edge that after the loss of it's strategic air cover with S-400, India called almost 4 big nations to mediate a ceasefire.

This war gave extremely rude awakening. Dreams shatter, plans mixed, moods depressed but yet, reality had to be understood. The US was quick to not only understand the reality, it accepted it and immediately course corrected its foreign policy. The hyphenation went into effect. "Indo-Pak" term and the region was born again. Per India's pressure and US's lack of Pakistan's military might, the term since Obama's time was "Af-Pak". How do you take a 6th largest military and a nuke power and link it with Afghanistan? It can't happen. The South Asian region did not belong to India only. There were two claimants, India and Pakistan.

Soon later, the US asked its trust worthy partner for three decades to stop buying Russian oil so Russia is forced to ceasefire and killings of innocent people can end. The US asked India to take some actions towards QUAD responsibilities against China. India, to US's surprise refused both requests, but NOT to Pakistan's surprise and Pakistan had warned the US years ago about deceitful tactics India employs.

US and Indian relations went near a halt and are further downwards lately. In this time, the US found that Pakistan was the ONLY country who was maintaining cordial relationships with the US, China, Russia, UK, Canada, EU, Iran, Saudia, Central Russian States, Bangladesh, and many other nation. Pakistan helped the US and China come to agreement on some issues already. This made it a trust worthy partner again to work together and have a strategic relationship so thing don't escalate to wars. The US could see BRICS and other anti-US alignments. So it was better to have partners like Pakistan to mediate issues behind the scenes than get into conflict and push nations further away. So Pakistan and US will form a long term nation to nation strategic partnership and both economies will benefit. A smaller military to military weapons acquisition relationship will thrive also but Pakistan's war fighting machine is now China based and that's the way it will be in the future. No questions on China being a strategic ally.

Rocket Force's Military Aspects: Now we've covered the strategic aspect in details. Now we'll cover the military aspect. The outcome of above mentioned global issues has elevated Pakistan's status to a large military power with positive influence over half the world, at least on all countries that matter. Therefore it now needs to have structure in place that establishes proper mechanism within itself as a regional military power.

That means, like the US, Russia and China, it needs to also have a conventional war fighting structure and a nuclear command and control structure that is strategic in nature.

Pakistan has established to the world and to India that it employs a significant conventional war fighting capability. Currently, the nuclear command is the same that's also managing Pakistan's missile arsenal. So there was a need to change the structure. Pakistan due to its close relationship with US, China and other nations, always analyzes the "best practices". It used the ever growing Chinese military's example and like the PLA, it realized a Rocket force will be needed.

To manage India conventionally, thousands of missiles will be built, acquired and kept. These missiles will include subsonic rockets and cruise missiles, supersonic missiles and soon to be tested, hypersonic weapons. These thousands of high speed weapons of destruction need a proper structure under Pakistan's army that autonomous, understands its own weapon's requirements to create a deterrence. The rockets and missile acquisitions will become the highest growth area in Pakistani military in years to come. Especially with the introduction of hypersonic weapons. There will be an institution like approach by the Rocket Force, to keep, maintain and use thousands of rockets and missiles that will come under this specialized force.

The US and China have given Pakistan a status that will require Pakistan to act like a big military power. The Rocket force will ensure Pakistani military achieves its goals conventionally through its vast inventory of conventional rockets and missile stockpile.

Then there is the SPD aka, Pakistan's Strategic Command that in the future will only be responsible for nuclear attack, retaliation and strategic posturing. It will have it's strategic assets in the shape of Pakistan's existing nuclear delivery capable missiles, like Nasar's, Abdali's, Ghauri's, Shaheen series and Ababeel. The SPD or the strategic command will only focus on keeping nuclear deterrence and it's delivery mechanism. In conventional wars, the world will see a clear distinction between when a conventional war is being fought and when something escalates to a nuclear threshold. Although, in recent events, due to India's unwise and uncalculated warfare tactics, the nuclear threshold can be achieved relatively quickly, but having proper larger military structure in place furthers Pakistan's posture of a responsible nation and a top 6th largest military of the world.
 
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Please check this troll went too far in insulting members including me.
Yeah I would like the mods to check who started poking who first and who ganged up to throw sarcastic insults at me.

Also, you should probably leave the thread since you have really nothing to contribute except playing cat and mouse. Let serious discussions happen and stop derailing.
 
Indian media is already crazy-reporting on this issue. It's obvious, they are calling PA now an extension of PLA with the same structure. The Rocket Force idea has hit India pretty heavy. But it's starting of Pakistan's rise as a 6th largest military power in the world!!

Here is ONE analysis on this:

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@Waz @Yasser76 @Hakikat ve Hikmet @TopGun786 @MirageV3ff @PAKISTANFOREVER @Fatman17 Your opinions on the topic please?
 
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It's about damn time Pakistan stopped just beating its chest over past victories like downing a few jets and started plugging the real holes in our strategy. This new rocket force is the answer. It's the sledgehammer we need to make India think twice before pulling another stunt like Balakot or Pahalgam.

Let them talk about their their Brahmos missiles. This time, we will adapt and saturate their air defences and pound their airbases into the ground. The moment they blame us for another attack, our rockets should be hot and ready to fly. No more restraint. The next fight will be over in days, so we need to go for the jugular from minute one and hit them with everything we've got.
 
I think tis new Rocket force is telling India and world that in any future conflict we will activate this command for conventional weapons, hence the nuclear signaling won't be there, once a missile is fired its hard to know if its conventional or nuclear hence the rocket command will be strictly conventional.

In any future conflict I believe this is how Pakistan will saturate Indian Air defenses..
First they will launch Fateh-1's which are 1 Tel carry 8 Missiles which I assume compared to F2/F3/F4's are cheaper to Produce, hence we can launch many on one important target, second wave (If you want to call it) will be limited number of F2's and if they penetrate Indian AD systems than the job is done, but if they get intercepted or failed to hit Target, simultaneously launch F-4's which are more slow but low observing heavy warhead missile. One thing I am not sure how F3 will fit in all this, or what kind of missile we are looking for ?
 
Now what is this .....drone or what
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Loitering missiles or munition.
 

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