Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[shapurzolaktaf]

reformists have proposed temporary suspension of enrichment in Iran to make a deal to relieve the economy and unite people

they are coming under pressure from other factions for that

honestly, they are right. the cost of maintaining enrichment for the sake of enrichment with a religious edict not to build a nuclear bomb is not worth it.

The cost of giving up on nuclear program might increase... If military force works against Iran, they will demand more soon, by increasing sanctions and pressure and threatening more military strikes.
Missile program? Space program? what will be next?

These foolish defeatist "reformist" oligarchs (traitors) want to destroy Iran from inside. They're very very nasty, coupling political reforms to denuclearization and demilitarization. They want to hijack the idea of political reform.

Libya model was the goal of Netanyahu and zionists, it still is and with bunch of mossadist politicians in Iran waging soft war from inside, the zionists will be emboldened.

It's outragious that they're giving such irresponsible and dangerous signals to the zionists (giving up on international recognized rights under NPT while zionists have nuclear weapons).

 

[Hack-Hook]

The cost of giving up on nuclear program might increase... If military force works against Iran, they will demand more soon, by increasing sanctions and pressure and threatening more military strikes.
Missile program? Space program? what will be next?

These foolish defeatist "reformist" oligarchs (traitors) want to destroy Iran from inside. They're very very nasty, coupling political reforms to denuclearization and demilitarization. They want to hijack the idea of political reform.

Libya model was the goal of Netanyahu and zionists, it still is and with bunch of mossadist politicians in Iran waging soft war from inside, the zionists will be emboldened.

It's outragious that they're giving such irresponsible and dangerous signals to the zionists (giving up on international recognized rights under NPT while zionists have nuclear weapons).

offers us your model

 

[shapurzolaktaf]

offers us your model

Put Zarif in jail (for treason by accepting snapback mechanism), execute Rouhani and some other (reformist) oligarchs. This gives signal that other traitors might follow. Just like how politicians in Russia commit "suicide" or "jump" from buildings or poison them.

Allow non-islamist nationalist parties to participate in elections, by reforming guardian council and constitution. This way the Israeli-zionist game of Regime VS people will come to an end. The nagging of reformist traitors will also come to an end.

Unite the people around the government. If they activate the snapback mechanism, then either go for buying nuclear weapons from North Korea or create nucleair weapons in secret or enrich uranium there by investing in their nucleair infrastructure (proxy nucleair program).

If war happens destroy all energy infrastructure in the region and start a costly war to bankrupt Europe and GCC. Tell China and Russia we've no choice if you guys don't support us, this is what it is. We go down all together.

Now you can say yeah this is all so unrealistic, fantasy blabla. I would rather start a defensive adventure than becoming the next Libya or Iraq.

 

[Persian Gulf]

Commander of Iran’s Khatam al-Anbiya Central HQ: Armed forces are at full readiness, closely monitoring any enemy movements. If the enemy repeats its first mistake, it will face a response more crushing than the first. Enemy will be stunned by our defense capabilities.

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did they explain how they didn't detect > 100 fighter jets leave Israel and travel through Iraq yet even though heavy fighter jet activity in Iraq was openly reported on twitter at least 20 minutes before any attacks happened in Iran? @Hack-Hook

 

[Persian Gulf]

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even hardcore shias no longer unconditionally support everything the IR's leaders do. a good sign

 

[Persian Gulf]

Iran’s Defense Minister says Iran will use new missiles if Israel attacks again. He said, “The missiles used in the 12-day war were built years ago. Today we have far more advanced missiles and if the Israeli enemy engages in a new adventure, we will use them.”

why is he speaking like the 12 day war wasn't less than 2 months ago? how many missiles did we build since then? likely not many

 

[Hack-Hook]

Put Zarif in jail (for treason by accepting snapback mechanism), execute Rouhani and some other (reformist) oligarchs. This gives signal that other traitors might follow. Just like how politicians in Russia commit "suicide" or "jump" from buildings or poison them.

based on what law, why only rouhani and some other oligarch why not the rest of the guys who agreed to JCPOA and again based on what law

Allow non-islamist nationalist parties to participate in elections, by reforming guardian council and constitution. This way the Israeli-zionist game of Regime VS people will come to an end. The nagging of reformist traitors will also come to an end.

that change also allow monarchist and MKO terrorist to participate are you in agreement with that
by the way its what those reformist you several minute ago throw out the windows wanted for years , so i guess you also plan commit suicide by jumping out of the windows

Unite the people around the government. If they activate the snapback mechanism, then either go for buying nuclear weapons from North Korea or create nucleair weapons in secret or enrich uranium there by investing in their nucleair infrastructure (proxy nucleair program).

sadly the people who could unite the rest of the population commit suicide by jumping out of the windows several minute ago

If war happens destroy all energy infrastructure in the region and start a costly war to bankrupt Europe and GCC. Tell China and Russia we've no choice if you guys don't support us, this is what it is. We go down all together.

as a result on only israel but also USA, China , KSA , UAE, Kuwait , Iraq and Turkey and the rest of Europe also joined the fight . and all our factories , missile cities , energy infrastructure and ..... get targeted .
as the result civil unrest happens because this time Iran was aggressor against its neighbor not victim of an attack by it's neighbors

Now you can say yeah this is all so unrealistic, fantasy blabla. I would rather start a defensive adventure than becoming the next Libya or Iraq

no I'm glad you showed everyone how good your understanding of the situation is

 

[Hack-Hook]

Iran’s Defense Minister says Iran will use new missiles if Israel attacks again. He said, “The missiles used in the 12-day war were built years ago. Today we have far more advanced missiles and if the Israeli enemy engages in a new adventure, we will use them.”

why is he speaking like the 12 day war wasn't less than 2 months ago? how many missiles did we build since then? likely not many

maybe there was a missile in western missile cities they could not use last time

 

[BigMela2onin]

The cost of giving up on nuclear program might increase... If military force works against Iran, they will demand more soon, by increasing sanctions and pressure and threatening more military strikes.
Missile program? Space program? what will be next?

These foolish defeatist "reformist" oligarchs (traitors) want to destroy Iran from inside. They're very very nasty, coupling political reforms to denuclearization and demilitarization. They want to hijack the idea of political reform.

Libya model was the goal of Netanyahu and zionists, it still is and with bunch of mossadist politicians in Iran waging soft war from inside, the zionists will be emboldened.

It's outragious that they're giving such irresponsible and dangerous signals to the zionists (giving up on international recognized rights under NPT while zionists have nuclear weapons).

I challenge anyone here to name a single country where giving up on their nuclear program benefitted them or when making a deal with the West lead to peace.

Put Zarif in jail (for treason by accepting snapback mechanism), execute Rouhani and some other (reformist) oligarchs. This gives signal that other traitors might follow. Just like how politicians in Russia commit "suicide" or "jump" from buildings or poison them.

Allow non-islamist nationalist parties to participate in elections, by reforming guardian council and constitution. This way the Israeli-zionist game of Regime VS people will come to an end. The nagging of reformist traitors will also come to an end.

Unite the people around the government. If they activate the snapback mechanism, then either go for buying nuclear weapons from North Korea or create nucleair weapons in secret or enrich uranium there by investing in their nucleair infrastructure (proxy nucleair program).

If war happens destroy all energy infrastructure in the region and start a costly war to bankrupt Europe and GCC. Tell China and Russia we've no choice if you guys don't support us, this is what it is. We go down all together.

Now you can say yeah this is all so unrealistic, fantasy blabla. I would rather start a defensive adventure than becoming the next Libya or Iraq.

It is a good idea but ignores that khamenei is as bad as the reformists. He has given them free reign to destroy the nation internally, he has let capitalist oligarchs and corruption take hold while he went after people's dress. He must go as much as the rouhani-zarif gang. No factions will allow nationalists to take power because both sides hate Iran and Iranians. Pezeshkian loves Turks, Khamenei loves sunnis, zarif loves the whites, and outsider opposition like pahlavi love the jews. No one is after the interests of Iranians.

 

[BigMela2onin]

offers us your model

Military coup followed by replication of Chinese/Singaporean style state run development model + forced labor camps for current rulers and oligarchs + cultural revolution of Iranian society to end gharbzadegi.

 

[Shafagh]

I challenge anyone here to name a single country where giving up on their nuclear program benefitted them or when making a deal with the West lead to peace.


It is a good idea but ignores that khamenei is as bad as the reformists. He has given them free reign to destroy the nation internally, he has let capitalist oligarchs and corruption take hold while he went after people's dress. He must go as much as the rouhani-zarif gang. No factions will allow nationalists to take power because both sides hate Iran and Iranians. Pezeshkian loves Turks, Khamenei loves sunnis, zarif loves the whites, and outsider opposition like pahlavi love the jews. No one is after the interests of Iranians.

How is this possible? We are approaching nearly 50 years of Islamic Republic, and not one figure stands out within I.R. or amongst opposition groups, to demonstrate strength and unity?

Every day I watch Iran struggle, and it saddens me, knowing how intelligent and talented Iranians are.

 

[Persian Gulf]

maybe there was a missile in western missile cities they could not use last time

yes that's what I thought

hope this means they moved those missiles to new locations so they can't be suppressed again

 

[shapurzolaktaf]

based on what law, why only rouhani and some other oligarch why not the rest of the guys who agreed to JCPOA and again based on what law

that change also allow monarchist and MKO terrorist to participate are you in agreement with that
by the way its what those reformist you several minute ago throw out the windows wanted for years , so i guess you also plan commit suicide by jumping out of the windows

sadly the people who could unite the rest of the population commit suicide by jumping out of the windows several minute ago

as a result on only israel but also USA, China , KSA , UAE, Kuwait , Iraq and Turkey and the rest of Europe also joined the fight . and all our factories , missile cities , energy infrastructure and ..... get targeted .
as the result civil unrest happens because this time Iran was aggressor against its neighbor not victim of an attack by it's neighbors

no I'm glad you showed everyone how good your understanding of the situation is

Based on any laws against treason and laws against stealing peoples/national wealth, waging war against God, corruption on earth.

The fierce supporters of JCPOA were Rouhani, Mousavi, Rafsanjani, Shirin Ebadi, Akbar Ganji, pezeshkian etc. They should be jailed for national treason, inviting war/foreign aggression against the country. Anyone with key roles in JCPOA should be jailed.

Monarchists and MEK terrorist get hanged (and should be hanged), few got hanged a week ago. They are against national interests and nationalism. They have 0 chance to participate in politics inside Iran.

Any country that has US bases which will be used to kill Iranians will have the chance to exit those forces (Iraq is working on that). In case of war, they were warned in advance.

It's either safety and development for all or for none. Enough of playing dirty games over the back of Iranian nation, interests, economy for 46 years. Yemen will be very important for Iran if new escalation starts soon.

 

[Shafagh]

Based on any laws against treason and laws against stealing peoples/national wealth, waging war against God, corruption on earth.

The fierce supporters of JCPOA were Rouhani, Mousavi, Rafsanjani, Shirin Ebadi, Akbar Ganji, pezeshkian etc. They should be jailed for national treason, inviting war/foreign aggression against the country. Anyone with key roles in JCPOA should be jailed.

Monarchists and MEK terrorist get hanged (and should be hanged), few got hanged a week ago. They are against national interests and nationalism.

Any country that has US bases which will be used to kill Iranians will have the chance to exit those forces (Iraq is working on that). In case of war, they were warned in advance.

It's either safety and development for all or for none. Enough of playing dirty games over the back of Iranian nation, interests, economy for 46 years. Yemen will be very important for Iran if new escalation starts soon.

I don't understand this;

When it looked like Trump was going to tear up the JCPOA, why didn't the government withdraw their holdings from foreign banks? It seems they left all their money in there and they got frozen again before they could access.

I remember there being 8 billion in liquid assets in South Korea alone.

 

[shapurzolaktaf]

Meanwhile India tested Agni-5 (5000 km) nuclear capable ICBM while Pezeshkian is telling Trump what can we do more saaarrr to please you?
Are we, with support of reformists, becoming the new "Yess Saaarrr nation"?