Yasser76
Elite Member
Your concern is showing up here on a daily basis and begging for Pakistanis to not believe the truth, that is the really nice thing about this.
I think you come on here to help your cope. Cute....
India Lucky Not To Lose More Than Four Rafales
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Your concern is showing up here on a daily basis and begging for Pakistanis to not believe the truth, that is the really nice thing about this.
I think you come on here to help your cope. Cute....
aurelianpilled
Registered Member
so trueWe missed a golden chance I would say, a once-in-a-lifetime chance to bash these Indians to the core. Not only did we hold back in that air battle, but were also unable to deploy our real OG weapons like Babur 1A/B or Ra'ad ALCMs in a conventional, deep-strike role, unlike the Indians who deployed and LITERALLY tested half of their ALCMs/AGMs on us like BrahMos, SCALPs, Crystal Maze IIs, Rampages, AASM Hammers, and even Spice bombs according to some.
It was our golden chance, literally a golden chance to test our weapons even if it meant exposing our OpSec/flight paths, etc.
At last, our senses kicked in and we formed the Army Rocket Force Command, but it should have been made much earlier, as India openly integrates long-range precision conventional strikes into its doctrine, whereas we, on the other hand, have historically treated Babur/Ra'ad as strategic deterrents first, not as routine conventional weapons, which cost us deeply as a result during the May war as deploying them or even launching them could have raised the bar because of their 'nuclear-specific' role and under SPD/SFC tag.
Terracotta Warrior
Banned
Com'n man, I already gave you 12 kills.. you need more ?
r3alist
Elite Member
How do you lose rafales
Master Chief
Trusted Member
The effect of civilian leadership speeches on the military is not relevant, but the civilian leadership has a responsibility to mobilise a nation, in an industrial sense (I'm not necessarily talking about conscription specifically) during wartime and in Pakistan, they consistently fail to do this, either through words or actions. They look unprepared and then proceed to act like everything will "blow over" if we wait a bit longer or complain to the right global pseudo-authority.
In addition to this weakness during conflicts, insufficient steps are taken pre or post conflict to mitigate harm to civilian populations.
Surely by now we should have learned our lesson. Nobody is going to stop our enemy but us ourselves. Certainly, India themselves will not suddenly pause their assault for some sudden adjustment in their civilisational direction. We absolutely need to be a militarised citadel of a society, and nothing less.
There should be no "quiet hoping that sanity will prevail".
This stark reality mandates a robust civilian political narrative during wartime, to augment the now expected powerful military response.
TAC
Registered Member
Don’t need u to ‘give’ jack rather PAF ‘took’ more than a few of your top of the line jets including Ra-fail and apparently IAF couldn’t even get a shot off in return, leaving likes of u struggling to cope for the rest of your days.
Yasser76
Elite Member
Dunno man, dunno, IAF still quiet, could be more then 12, like what are you guys hiding, come out with it.
Yasser76
Elite Member
I am so here for the cope. As evidence comes out (Trump statements, Warnes etc) they genuinely have nothing to respond with.
Idiot of a PM made a rod for his own back. By not admitting kills straight away he has made this thing much much bigger then it should be. Usually would Trump care about the losses of aircraft in a regional conflict and mention the subject 5-6 times in press conference? Never.
Reason he knows this is a pressure point is that he knows, PAF knows, French know that losses are indeed bigger then the original 5.
Now he is absolutely f**ked. He cannot come out with the real losses as even Modi Media would melt, Congress would have a field day and the IAF's reputation (already battered) would be destroyed.
Now simple question is what is the exact number? We initially thought 6. Photographic evidence was around 3-4.
Trumo hinting 8 or 8 plus.
The longer this drags out the much worse it will be for Modi, IAF and Indians on here.
I am loving it.
Mighty_Dragon_Strike
Trusted Member
gamaji
Registered Member
Probably not. The president seems really pissed off by Indian lies, denials, and implying that he's repeatedly lying when he claims that he stopped the war between India and Pakistan that could have turned into a nuclear war.
Yasser76
Elite Member
100% exactly this. You can tell it has become very personal, he no longer talks about India's trade position, just about the ceasefire and downed planes. As i said earlier, he is choosing his words very carefully. Watch him name the IAF soon
ThoroughPro
Registered Member
Sorry boss, i just got excited, Please do not report me to the mods, I'll delete my post.
side-winder
Moderator
I know this guy Ali Hamza - took early retirement from PAF - He was grounded from flying for some reasons. Didn't know he had started a youtube channel.
Mighty_Dragon_Strike
Trusted Member
showed up on my feed
TopGun786
Trusted Member
When somebody can't defend something they resort to cute comments like you.
