Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds
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Sarhang
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Yea but these are the same guys that gave a large, sophisticated country like Iran a militia alike army. They cut the wings of the IRIAF and reduced everything to militia group tactics and weaponry.
The same ones who glorified human wave attacks on Iraqi positions claiming thousands of innocent lives like it was nothing. These people are completely nuts, they have hijacked the country and they need to be removed before they destroy Iran.
ShapurII
Trusted Member
Too late for that. These fools can no longer be removed from power without consequences.
Persian Gulf
INT'L MOD
this woman can attend but our heart surgeon cannot ? and he can't take the photo and then leave? or simply request not to drink alcohol ? this excuse doesn't add up.
Qaraca
Registered Member
Persian Gulf
INT'L MOD
the reality is that if this was true Iranian radars should have picked it up and we could have presented the evidence by now
if we don't have evidence we should just ask why none of our radars worked instead
Shafagh
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NEW: The Telegraph reports that Iran has various 'ultra-secure' underground nuclear sites that are even more resistant to strikes than the infamous Fordow facility, which the U.S. struck with B-2 stealth bombers back in June
In specific, they point to a mountain complex located near the enrichment facility at Natanz, which is reportedly more than 160 meters deep, almost twice as deep as Fordow, which took a dozen GBU-57 'MOP' bunker busters to destroy — with the results of the strike still heavily debated to this day.
The Telegraph writes that 'Pickaxe mountain' could be a perfect hiding spot for Iran's highly enriched uranium, and that the tunnels are so deep and so hardened that they could even survive a nuclear blast.
Iran also has another ultra deep facility near the uranium conversion facility at Esfahan, which the United States failed to destroy during their strikes on the complex back in June.
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/ NEW: The Telegraph reports that Iran has various 'ultra-secure' underground nuclear sites that are even more resistant to strikes than the infamous Fordow facility, which the U.S. struck with B-2 stealth bombers back in JuneIn specific, they point to a mountain complex located near the enrichment facility at Natanz, which is reportedly more than 160 meters deep, almost twice as deep as Fordow, which took a dozen GBU-57 'MOP' bunker busters to destroy — with the results of the strike still heavily debated to this day.
The Telegraph writes that 'Pickaxe mountain' could be a perfect hiding spot for Iran's highly enriched uranium, and that the tunnels are so deep and so hardened that they could even survive a nuclear blast.
Iran also has another ultra deep facility near the uranium conversion facility at Esfahan, which the United States failed to destroy during their strikes on the complex back in June.
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kastor ville
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Do you think in this day and age, if a projectile, or a bomb brought down that chopper, people like me who investigate aircraft accidents wouldn't be able to tell?
This is how conspiracy theories run amok....when people who lack the necessary knowledge about an issue come up with a hypothesis, even if that hypothesis is highly improbable. There are people who still think the 9/11 Pentagon bombing was not done by an Arab terrorist...they dispute the aircraft hitting it, saying it was a coverup by the US govt. Never mind that we have radar evidence and missing aircraft and its debris. Oh, also the fact it happened on 9/11 at the same time as the world trade center attack.....what can you say? When you nutjobs that like this kind of stuff. Now if you ask me about the Lebanon port explosion, I would 100% agree that was Israel....why? Because it's highly plausible, they have spies in Lebanon and they had prior knowledge of all of that seized fertilizer sitting there for years. It could even be that it was an Israeli operation that sent it there, and then refused to pay for the cargo, knowing it would be seized. But the fact that they knew Raisi would be on that chopper and that there would be heavy fog on that day and that hour, and they somehow positioned assets in the area at the right time to take that one chopper down and leave the other 2 untouched, is too much. The last part is my first argument, most airframes will show explosion marks,.fragmentation shards, even chemicals signatures on the metal and entry points....there are many forensics tests we can conduct to see if there are traces of TNT, Semtex, C4, RDX..etc
Persian Gulf
INT'L MOD
this article is more than a month old and that facility in Natanz has been under construction for many years and is not active yet—
In specific, they point to a mountain complex located near the enrichment facility at Natanz, which is reportedly more than 160 meters deep, almost twice as deep as Fordow, which took a dozen GBU-57 'MOP' bunker busters to destroy — with the results of the strike still heavily debated to this day.
The Telegraph writes that 'Pickaxe mountain' could be a perfect hiding spot for Iran's highly enriched uranium, and that the tunnels are so deep and so hardened that they could even survive a nuclear blast.
Iran also has another ultra deep facility near the uranium conversion facility at Esfahan, which the United States failed to destroy during their strikes on the complex back in June.
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sounds like they are trying to create justification for round 2
Immortals
Elite Member
Because an F-35 with its RCS you aren’t reliably picking it up till maybe 50KM away assuming no jamming or ECW/EW by the enemy. And Azerbaijan with it’s weak IADS doesn’t have the capability to even know if F-35 came into its airspace.
So you could have F-35 penetrate thru Iraq terrain hugging thru northern iran into Armenia and Azeribajian and release their payloads over the Caspian towards Tehran and its surrounding then leave.
Even Patarames claims that Israel was using its stealth drone bomber over Caspian to launch 200KM ranged cruise missiles.
StrategicBear
Registered Member
Round 2 must be decisive so Iran must hit back with everything it has. Let them regret even thinking about it.
Persian Gulf
INT'L MOD
we're talking about drones not f-35
the claim was that Iranian border guards saw drones enter Iran from Azerbaijan
Immortals
Elite Member
Why do you assume the only way that chopper was brought down by bomb or projectile? Do you think if Mossad was going to do such an operation on a world leader they would pick such an obvious tactic? And the ones who did investigation were who? IRGC and its affiliates? Was black box recording ever released?
The facts are 3 helicopters went into the same fog at the same time. And all the other pilots managed to navigate it just fine except the presidents.
Do you also believe that Rafsjani died from a heart attack in his pool?
Do you also believe the port explosion (similar to Beruit) that took place weeks before the war was also human error?
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Shafagh
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Yep. This tit for tat 10 missiles a day crap isn't going to deter anything.
