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[ToddE]

This is what I was wondering. I thought Karrar drone was mass produced and had datalink to F5 / SU 22.

Kowsar fighter has Datalink but 5 exists and 10 SU-22 M3/M4 were upgraded with datalinks. Besides how do we know if Karrar interceptors datalink is duplexed with Kowsar or SU-22.

Yes, you are right. They must have taken out major ground control stations. But why wouldn't there be mobile ground control stations?

Mobile launchers +control stations of Karrar exist but the problem is Radio control or C-Band LOS which limits the real time control range to barely 300-400 KM. For longer range outside Iranian skies they need Satellite guidance for real time flight control and Search n Track information of a target. Alternatively, a "mothership" Fighter can do both. IAIO produces double duplex datalinks so Target info can not be given to a UCAV but can be taken from it as well. IRIAF has no budget so all of these technologies are just protoype limited.

 

[Mr Iran Eye]

‘The Defense Ministry self-sufficient in meeting needs and advancing new technology’

https://en.irna.ir/news/85921669/The-Defense-Ministry-self-sufficient-in-meeting-needs-and-advancing

 

[Hack-Hook]

‘The Defense Ministry self-sufficient in meeting needs and advancing new technology’​

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https://en.irna.ir/news/85921669/The-Defense-Ministry-self-sufficient-in-meeting-needs-and-advancing

They design what is needed.
The question is do they also mass produce and implement it

 

[Mr Iran Eye]

Iran’s parliament has approved the following:

- Allocation of €2 billion for the purchase of foreign weapons
- Allocation of $1.5 billion to compensate the Armed Forces for damages
- Allocation of 30% of the Air Transit Organization’s tax revenues to the Army Air Force

 

[Ali_Baba]

Iran’s parliament has approved the following:

- Allocation of €2 billion for the purchase of foreign weapons

In the modern world of weapons, this amount buys you nothing . Suprised it is that low given what we saw.

 

[Shafagh]

Iran’s parliament has approved the following:

- Allocation of €2 billion for the purchase of foreign weapons
- Allocation of $1.5 billion to compensate the Armed Forces for damages
- Allocation of 30% of the Air Transit Organization’s tax revenues to the Army Air Force

With budget set aside for foreign weapons, is this a hint that there are in fact arms deals in place with foreign countries?

Or are they going there with money just to get turned away? Lately it seems only NK will sell Iran anything.

Perhaps there are talks to purchase lower ticket items.

-Electronic warfare/jamming systems
-Maybe point defence systems like Pantsir?
-Replacement target acquisition radars for S300
-Engagement radars

 

[Hassan Al-Somal]

In the modern world of weapons, this amount buys you nothing . Suprised it is that low given what we saw.

"- Allocation of 30% of the Air Transit Organization’s tax revenues to the Army Air Force"

That should be in addition to the "€2 billion for the purchase of foreign weapons" that is set aside for foreign weapons' purchases.

"The budget for Iran’s armed forces was 7,220 trillion rials in last year’s budget bill. Given the exchange rate defined in that budget (330,000 rials per dollar), Iran’s military budget last year could be estimated at $15.7 billion.

Based on this, the allocated budget for Iran’s armed forces in the coming year could be estimated at $46 billion."

Source: https://www.iranintl.com/en/202509073186

The new budget tripled the budget of the Iranian armed forces. It looks like the lran parliament security and foreign policy committee is getting serious about equipping Iranian armed forces.

 

[Mr Iran Eye]

"- Allocation of 30% of the Air Transit Organization’s tax revenues to the Army Air Force"

That should be in addition to the "€2 billion for the purchase of foreign weapons" that is set aside for foreign weapons' purchases.

"The budget for Iran’s armed forces was 7,220 trillion rials in last year’s budget bill. Given the exchange rate defined in that budget (330,000 rials per dollar), Iran’s military budget last year could be estimated at $15.7 billion.

Based on this, the allocated budget for Iran’s armed forces in the coming year could be estimated at $46 billion."

Source: https://www.iranintl.com/en/202509073186

The new budget tripled the budget of the Iranian armed forces. It looks like the lran parliament security and foreign policy committee is getting serious about equipping Iranian armed forces.

This confirms the analysis I've seen elsewhere, because here on this forum, the level of sound analysis is almost nonexistent. Iran's weapons production capacity is currently very high, and that makes sense. The strengthening and improvement of existing weapons, along with the development of new ones, and the acquisition of foreign weapons, will significantly enhance the Iranian military in all areas.

 

[ToddE]

This confirms the analysis I've seen elsewhere, because here on this forum, the level of sound analysis is almost nonexistent. Iran's weapons production capacity is currently very high, and that makes sense. The strengthening and improvement of existing weapons, along with the development of new ones, and the acquisition of foreign weapons, will significantly enhance the Iranian military in all areas.

Like F-4SM and AI controlled mass produced Kowsars?

 

[BigMela2onin]

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Heavier AD systems seem to be limited in availability given types of systems in use. Likely no plan to improve AD availability knowing IR.

 

[Mr Iran Eye]

New radar detected, I had never seen it before

 

[Mr Iran Eye]

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Heavier AD systems seem to be limited in availability given types of systems in use. Likely no plan to improve AD availability knowing IR.

You're talking absolutely nonsense, totally nonsense, you'll see one day not so far away.

 

[Flotilla]

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Heavier AD systems seem to be limited in availability given types of systems in use. Likely no plan to improve AD availability knowing IR.

Don´t be demanding. Most of the attacks have been done by saboteurs with ATGM type missiles (Spike) short range drones and small cruise missiles. This drills are good to test VSHORAD and SHORAD types over MRAD and LRAD, that were not specially damaged aside from tracking radars and FCR.

And more interesting, they´re training small stealth or VLO style cruise missiles. So very good.

 

[Kyussis]

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Heavier AD systems seem to be limited in availability given types of systems in use. Likely no plan to improve AD availability knowing IR.

This is the air defenses belonging to the Imam Zaman Mechanized Brigade of the IRGC ground forces. It is only equipped with short range systems and does not reflect the abilities of the Islamic Republic of Iran air defense forces, hence why no Mid or long range AD systems.

 

[BigMela2onin]

This is the air defenses belonging to the Imam Zaman Mechanized Brigade of the IRGC ground forces. It is only equipped with short range systems and does not reflect the abilities of the Islamic Republic of Iran air defense forces, hence why no Mid or long range AD systems.

I'm not talking about them using S-300s or something. But rather that they are using manually aimed AA guns, these are borderline useless in modern contexts. Majid system should be the minimum level these units operate with, not the top level. What happened to the ZSU-23-4 with misagh missiles they "unveiled." Likely just another waste of money one off. Something like that would be expected in the context of a mechanized brigade.