PAF Future Acquisition Plans

Would you say a better approach would be working with Turkey and China to procure UCAVs to fill some of the gap for now, while doubling down on the PFX, as an outgrowth of the KAAN work?

To build a TF35000 powered fighter, which can be designed in collaboration with them, based on their R&D, and have the ecosystem built up in Pakistan correctly. A 4.5 gen version initially, and later on a full 5th gen version with an internal bay, similar to the way the KFX has been done.

Knowing it’s a design that could be competitive for decades to come, investing heavily in it now, should pay dividends for decades to come.
Long term planning and strategy is a lost concept in Pakistan I'm afraid.
Otherwise as many other members here have mentioned, Pakistan should've collaborated with turkey when the offer was on the table in 2016, or going even earlier and work with Shenyang when FC-31 just took flight for the first time in 2012. We're just too late to the party.
 
Reduce army size by 100K. Increase J-35 orders to 100. Thank me later

No one fucking cares how many soldiers you have today. In 5 years China will be introducing robots in battlefield.
Thats China not Pakistan...In 71 manekshaw used the numerical advantage of IA in eastern Pakistan and forced the surrender...also china doesn't have a clear land border with anyone just mountainous areas...or rising terror threats to fight...if there were no such instability in the country i can bet we wouldnt have such large numbers(still small compared to IA)...
 
I think a real problem for PAF now is that the future may well be one of JF-17C, J-10C, J-35 and possibly PFX (Whatever that turns out to be). All of the above can be integrated into our unique Pak/Chinese network of Radars, EW, Cyber, Sats etc etc

Where does that leave our fleet of relatively modern F-16s?

10 years from now the APG-68 will be dates (some argue it already is), AMRAAM will be to short ranged (again, possibly already is!).

Within a battle and integrated fight, having F-16s flying around may actually be more of a liability then an asset (possibly friendly fire here too!)
 

Seeing as Zadari has no decision making power on this, can one assume China briefing him as deal is done?


I think it's just out of good will? otherwise why unmanned fighter jet, doesn't seems possible.
 

China briefs Pakistan on J-35, unmanned fighter jets as Islamabad seeks to bolster air defenses​

Waseem Abbasi
26 September 2025


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President Asif Ali Zardari (center) visiting China’s AVIC aircraft complex in Chengdu on September 14, 2025. (President of Pakistan/ X)
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  • The statement comes months after Pakistan declared victory in a military standoff with India that saw Islamabad use China’s J-10Cs fighter jets
  • Over past five years, China has supplied 81 percent of Pakistan’s imported weapons, according to Stockholm International Peace Research Institute
ISLAMABAD: Chinese authorities have briefed Pakistan President Asif Ali Zardari on advanced J-35 stealth fighter jets and unmanned aerial combat aircraft during his recent visit to China, with Pakistan expressing interest in modern Chinese defense technology, a senator who accompanied the president on his recent China visit told reporters on Friday.

President Zardari this month visited China on a 10-day official trip, where he became the "first" foreign leader to visit Aviation Industry Corporation of China's (AVIC) Advanced Aircraft Complex in Chengdu, according to his office.

Zardari was briefed on the J-35 stealth multirole combat aircraft, J-20 stealth fighter aircraft, J-10 fighter jet, co-production of JF-17 Thunder with Pakistan, unmanned aerial vehicles, fully automated units, and integrated command-and-control systems for multi-domain operations.

Senator Saleem Mandviwalla, a member of Zardari's Pakistan Peoples Party (PPP) who accompanied him to China, said that the transfer of modern technology and defense equipment takes time, but said Islamabad would not let its neighbor dominate Pakistan in defense field, in an obvious reference to India.

“One thing is certain Pakistan will not allow its neighboring [enemy] country to dominate it and will remain its equal in the defense field,” he said.

In the coming times, Mandviwalla said, defense cooperation between the two countries will further increase, bringing the "world’s best technology to Pakistan."

A rising military superpower, China hasn’t fought a major war in more than four decades but has raced under President Xi Jinping to modernize its armed forces, pouring resources into developing sophisticated weaponry and cutting-edge technologies. It has also extended that modernization drive to Pakistan, long hailed by Beijing as its “ironclad brother.”

Over the past five years, China has supplied 81 percent of Pakistan’s imported weapons, according to data from the Stockholm International Peace Research Institute (SIPRI). Those exports include advanced fighter jets, missiles, radars and air-defense systems. Some Pakistan-made weapons have also been co-developed with Chinese firms or built with Chinese technology and expertise.

The development comes months after Pakistan declared victory in a four-day military conflict with India, saying its air force used Chinese J-10C aircraft to shoot down six Indian fighter jets, including three French Rafales. Though Indian officials have acknowledged losses, they have not specified the number of jets downed by Pakistan.

Murtaza Solangi, the president's spokesman, said Zardari during his visit to the sprawling complex in Chengdu boarded a J-10 fighter jet, which was "instrumental" in Pakistan’s four-day standoff with India in May.

"The president was briefed on China’s latest aerospace capabilities," he said.

The president’s visit was aimed at strengthening social ties with China, according to PPP members.

"During the visit, six agreements were signed between Pakistan and China, four of which were business-to-business deals," Mandviwalla said.


Possible CCA deal in the works or reading too much into it?
 
Speaking of CCA, autonomous unmanned fighter, this post came into my mind.

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These are just talks. Pakistan will most likely increase the number of J-10C and J-35 will come around 2027 or 2028.
 

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