PTI News, Updates and Discussion

[Areesh]

That’s why i have been saying bringing back IK to office would allow a political solution to be formed in the national body politic.

Obviously IK shouldn’t go only his gut feelings as to how to deal with the alienation and militant problems, but with the aid of knowledge and honest advisors, his credibility are something that can’t break through deadlocks, internally and across the northwestern border.

Credibility can’t be manufactured, it must be earned. all this time they keep him in jail, the state is concentrating all mainstream legitimacy, as far as many sections of the public see it, in only IK.

When the state stalls in economic benefit to the public, they will have no way left to placate the masses. A return of IK, a restoration of rule of law, and the sense that contract law will be upheld (look how recently also Malik Raiz was sidelined and how that sends shockwaves in the investor community) are all necessary to attract FDI from the diaspora and the larger world.

P.s. this is the time to bring IK out, if only for purely selfish national interest reasons. We need to find terms to have the Afghan Talibs work with Pakistan, on terms that serve our national security and economic interest. The Talibs are still global pariahs and if not with IK, whom the Talibs will at least have to begrudgingly accept, as a prominent Pakistani leader as well as very influential in the minds of many Pashtuns. (having seen PTI protests in the US and Canada, there are a cohort of Pashtuns that come to do the Attan, and recognize IK as reflecting something firm in their identity; resilience). If IK can get the Afghan mineral extraction (of known and documented reserves), processing and shipping started, it will greatly improve Pakistan’s economic and geo strategic standing globally. Money we need to jump start our economy, placate alienated sections (basically 99%) of the population, but also fund our military modernization.

The state needs to channel the IK energy towards the long term interests of the nation. A strong and perceived to be legitimate civilian political ruler as well as a strong military, each operating within their bounds, will help heal, with time, some of the widest fissures in society and allow the state to focus on building not just stabilizing on a foundation of sand castles.

So in short IK should be PM of Pakistan to tell Talibs that they should stop sending in terrorists in Pakistan

Is that what you are saying?

 

[Xestan]

Each and every word of him is proved correct over and over again. Yet we are so naive that we can't see. He had said in 2003 that there is no military solution in Afghanistan and US will fail to finish Taliban. That exactly happened. I sometimes wonder how someone could see that far against all odds. He had absolute firm belief that military bombings do collateral damages which turns people against own state and this has ripple effect.

He always specifically mention about normal / ordinary / patriotic people who got bombed. He never sympathize with hardcore terrorists. He was against consistent drone strikes by the US in Pakistan. He was the only one who stood against those. Those US drone strikes created more terrorists then it eliminated. As People turned against the state which couldn't protect them. He put a full stop to those drone strikes.

We all want to get rid of TTP & terrorism but we can't use airforce to bomb own areas for it. We have to use incompetent ISI. They have to do their job instead of politics. They have to infiltrate terror networks, find out their leadership, give exact coordinates or assassinate within and implode the whole thing. Its always intelligence agencies job to hunt terrorists Not the job of country's airforce. Our military dictators have done MASSIVE blunders. Blunders which we saw in our lifetime starting from Ziaulhaq 1.0.

Actually no. Imran Khan has been proven wrong about almost all the things in War on Terror.

He opposed Op Raah-e-Raast in Swat. The op was a success, Swat is in peace for last 16 years.
He opposed Op Raah-e-Nijaat. South Waziristan was cleared and terrorism dropped massively.
He opposed Op Zarb-e-Azb. After clearing North Waziristan, Pakistan has seen the end of organised terrorism and physical space for terrorists for last 11 years.

He has always wanted peace talks with TTP and history shows, TTP always used peace talks to regroup and attack.

 

[Irfan Baloch]

“The operation in Khyber Pakhtunkhwa should be stopped immediately. At one time in Khyber Pakhtunkhwa, the ANP was made unpopular. Instead of improving the situation, military operations against our own people only to please external forces make things worse. In these operations, our security forces are killed on one side and our own citizens on the other. Killing our own people always increases terrorism. The drone attacks on our side in Afghanistan and Pakistan should be stopped immediately.

I direct all the provincial and national assembly members and senators of Khyber Pakhtunkhwa to sit together and resist for peace in the province and to stop the operations and drone attacks against our own people so that this problem can be resolved peacefully. On the one hand, people are facing floods and inflation and they will also face an operation, which is very painful. History is a witness that there is no permanent solution to peace except through negotiations.

Afghanistan is our brotherly Muslim country. Afghan refugees have been living here for three generations. When the Prophet (peace be upon him) migrated to Medina, Everyone opened their doors for them and that is why Ansar Medina is respected till date but we made the land narrow for our Muslim brothers. Pushing and expelling the refugees is very sad. Asim Munir is doing all this to please the anti-Taliban lobby and is deliberately imposing war where there is no war. These steps should be stopped immediately otherwise the situation will worsen further”

Former Prime Minister Imran Khan’s conversation with his sisters in Adiala Jail. September 10, 2025

Imran has for decades described taliban as own brothers. he allowed their settlement back despite the protests by people of sawat. he wants to negotiate with these throat slitters who blow up schools and mosques. whether or not this news item is versified., Imran has on record expressed his position. he banks on their support this is why no secular party is allowed election rallies in KP and PTI uses ethnic and religious card in KP.

 

[PakAl]

Asim Munir is doing all this to please the anti-Taliban lobby[/B] and is deliberately imposing war where there is no war. These steps should be stopped immediately otherwise the situation will worsen further”

From my reading, the world powers are not accepting Taliban government, they want Taliban toppled and are supporting ISIS and its ideology to harm Taliban government. Not saying about Pakistan role but it's a fact someone out their is funding and training ISIS to target the Taliban and allies.

Imran Khan fault here is he is claiming their is no war but who is targeting our armed forces, who is involved in bombing and killing our people. The people who opposes military operations will never talk about this.

Pakistan must fight and kill all terorrists who are waging war on our state, but we need to know what is happening in these regions. Have we lost control, or are terrorists hiding in villages and why covert operations are not done to local and finish them off. It's true military operations harm are own people but when militants are killing our personnel, bombing cities then something needs to be done. Does PTI want to give territory to the militants like before? What do the militants want?

Pakistan must get all parties to unite, get the tribal people on board, negotiate with the militants (since PTI, JUI, JI want this) and see what they want. Pakistan signed peace agreement with TTP before and when the peace treaty expired the militants started their attacks again, it's like the militants have a base. If someone says the bases are in Afghanistan then why operations are needed in Pakistan. If militants want to fight then a final operation needs to be done to finish them off.

 

[313Ghazi]

I don't agree with alot of PTI or even government policies but when they are correct I support it without any political bias. People don't understand the real situation and this is why alot of them are calling for operations, and invasion of Afghanistan and the rest are opposing this.

When Pakistan sent the army to tribal areas for the first time, JUI JI and alot of parties opposed this, then when military operation were about to start Pmln PTI JUI JI were making alot of noise against it, the parliament would not approve it and the army under raheel sharif decided to do operations anyway, then right at the end Pmln government approved it. PPP, Mqm, Anp, Sunni Ittehad Council, Sunni Tehreek, MWM, Pmlq were all calling for operations, to finish terrorists and take control of the country.

Now the question when our military police agencies are in control of tribal areas, then what operations are needed, are the militants holding territories like before? Or is our military talking about doing target operations in villages to find and kill militants who are hiding. I am assuming this must already be happening, when agencies locate terrorists they will find and destroy them, this is their job.

PTI and Imran Khan were wrong when they opposed the first military operations, because the operations reduced terorrism in the rest of Pakistan. If today Imran Khan is opposing operations, on what level is he opposing, I am assuming he means target operations in the villages etc or else we have no information on militants holding any territory like before. What's confusing is what are police FCR agencies doing in tribal areas, their job is to find and destroy militants, work with the locals to locate them etc.

If we continue doing operations in the villages, innocents will die, people houses and businesses will be effected and this does create hatred and division.

Basically the state has failed to build on Raheel Sharifs success.

1. The fencing and manning of the border was ineffective
2. The local security agencies don't have the manpower and the intelligence base to prevent the regrouping and rearming of this terrorist group.

Addressing and correcting these failures are 100 times more important than another operation, unfortunately however, targeted action against militants is required.

 

[Xestan]

From my reading, the world powers are not accepting Taliban government, they want Taliban toppled and are supporting ISIS and its ideology to harm Taliban government. Not saying about Pakistan role but it's a fact someone out their is funding and training ISIS to target the Taliban and allies.

Imran Khan fault here is he is claiming their is no war but who is targeting our armed forces, who is involved in bombing and killing our people. The people who opposes military operations will never talk about this.

Pakistan must fight and kill all terorrists who are waging war on our state, but we need to know what is happening in these regions. Have we lost control, or are terrorists hiding in villages and why covert operations are not done to local and finish them off. It's true military operations harm are own people but when militants are killing our personnel, bombing cities then something needs to be done. Does PTI want to give territory to the militants like before? What do the militants want?

Pakistan must get all parties to unite, get the tribal people on board, negotiate with the militants (since PTI, JUI, JI want this) and see what they want. Pakistan signed peace agreement with TTP before and when the peace treaty expired the militants started their attacks again, it's like the militants have a base. If someone says the bases are in Afghanistan then why operations are needed in Pakistan. If militants want to fight then a final operation needs to be done to finish them off.

World powers can go to hell. Any sane Pakistani would want the Taliban government to collapse right now, for what they have been doing to Pakistan for last 3 years.

We recently sent 53 Afghan TTP bodies back to their country. There's a literal war being waged against Pakistan by Taliban.

 

[PakAl]

I would have to give it to Imran Khan

I always change my opinion about something if I find myself wrong

This guy is continously wrong about TTP but his opinion hasn't changed one bit about them. This is the level of constitency you need if you want to destroy yourself

He even opposed the first military operations, with JUI JI, Pmln and a few others on board, Pakistan even allowed militants to control Tribal areas, Swat, Malakand but that didn't work. After the operations terorrism reduced in the rest of Pakistan. Today we don't know if the militants are hiding in villages or are they holding territories and why our security forces fail to local and kill them, we have agencies in tribal areas, police, FCR, army.

 

[Taimoor]

I would have to give it to Imran Khan

I always change my opinion about something if I find myself wrong

This guy is continously wrong about TTP but his opinion hasn't changed one bit about them. This is the level of constitency you need if you want to destroy yourself

You have lot of opinions but you dont cough up the solution.

When did the TTP came about? any idea? how many years? How many we have killed? More importantly, when IK was in power, what was the situation in country when it comes to terrorism? You want to keep on fighting these conflicts within the borders of Pakistan while your mortal enemy is getting ready to fight the final war?

 

[El Sidd]

Today we don't know if the militants are hiding in villages or are they holding territories and why our security forces fail to local and kill them, we have agencies in tribal areas, police, FCR, army.

That's a very bold claim. Pakistan has been able to conduct intelligence based operations after previous government declared victory over terrorism.

Why do you guys want to reverse time and space in every of your arguments? Any idea who deleted my post?

 

[Olympus81]

Imran Khan is probably wrong on this one but the establishment is also not right all the time.

There have been multiple cases where they take on the militants only to make deals. Remember Ehsanullah Ehsan.

There is something really wrong here and the public is being constantly kept in the dark. How come after multiple operations, these cucks refuse to be eliminated?

The Taliban were the establishment’s brothers not until a long time ago. Now we’re against them.

Whats the barometer? Why isnt Pakistan’s policy towards Taliban, TTP, ISIS, forces of evil consistent?

 

[Areesh]

You have lot of opinions but you dont cough up the solution.

When did the TTP came about? any idea? how many years? How many we have killed? More importantly, when IK was in power, what was the situation in country when it comes to terrorism? You want to keep on fighting these conflicts within the borders of Pakistan while your mortal enemy is getting ready to fight the final war?

Only solution is eliminating TTP both inside and outside Pakistan. There is no other solution. No political solution is possible if TTP doesn't feel defeated militarily. Same for BLA too

IK is a delusional idiot who thinks terrorists would lay down their weapons just because he would open them an office in Hayatabad Peshawar

One can criticize military leadership and its policies. I do it all the time. But creating confusion when it comes terrorists like TTP and BLA is just dishonest on part of Imran Khan. He isn't doing this country any good with this policy

 

[Areesh]

Imran Khan is probably wrong on this one but the establishment is also not right all the time.

There have been multiple cases where they take on the militants only to make deals. Remember Ehsanullah Ehsan.

There is something really wrong here and the public is being constantly kept in the dark. How come after multiple operations, these cucks refuse to be eliminated?

The Taliban were the establishment’s brothers not until a long time ago. Now we’re against them.

Whats the barometer? Why isnt Pakistan’s policy towards Taliban, TTP, ISIS, forces of evil consistent?

This is all a very valid criticism and all your questions are valid

Imran khan doesn't do valid criticism. He simply creates obfuscation and confusion for TTP. He has been doing this nonsense for past twenty years and is still doing the same even now shamelessly

 

[Forsvaret]

Today we don't know if the militants are hiding in villages or are they holding territories and why our security forces fail to local and kill them, we have agencies in tribal areas, police, FCR, army.

And for good reason. The intelligence agencies are rather busy doing political engineering against Imran Khan and his PTI instead of doing their job; stop TTP infiltration of Pakistan.

 

[Taimoor]

Only solution is eliminating TTP both inside and outside Pakistan. There is no other solution. No political solution is possible if TTP doesn't feel defeated militarily. Same for BLA too

IK is a delusional idiot who thinks terrorists would lay down their weapons just because he would open them an office in Hayatabad Peshawar

One can criticize military leadership and its policies. I do it all the time. But creating confusion when it comes terrorists like TTP and BLA is just dishonest on part of Imran Khan. He isn't doing this country any good with this policy

Arent we already doing this for last how many bloody years? Whats the outcome? Maybe, just maybe, there is more to it that meets the eye?

I ask you again, what was the terrorism situation in Pakistan when IK was in power and how it turned when he was removed. We are looking at tangible results here, not our biased or unbiased opinions.

 

[Pak-Warrior]

Imran has for decades described taliban as own brothers. he allowed their settlement back despite the protests by people of sawat.

Well, Its a straight up lie. People of Swat did MASSIVE protests long after Imran khan was out of power and in Jail. Putting allegations on PTI/Imran khan on security matter is the most bias remark ever. You really think GHQ gives any damn about what politicians have to say regarding security matters?? They don't hear you out even in Foreign policy, economy or agriculture.... Do you think army will listen or obeys anything you say on their domain (security) ??

Why are you being so bias ??

Secondly, what other good options we have in Afghanistan if not Taliban?? Let's be practical for a moment. Its very easy to critisize someone but bring out practical talk. Do you remember the alternate / northern alliance behavior during Ashraf Ghani / Amrullah Saleh tenure ?? They use to humiliate / abuse Pakistan at world stage. hugging indians, india doing investments in Afghanistan, opening up so many consulates and RAW presense. The same ISPR use to tell us for decades that indians & afghan agencies (raw and nds) funding TTP. So ISPR was lying to us for last 20 years ??
Lastly, Taliban defeated northern alliance and americans. They took over in hours when americans left. That means they are legit & credible power in afghanistan with no challenger in sight. Its pure COMMON sense and LOGIC to partner up with them. The 300,000 Afghan national army ran away in instant because Taliban had local support. Taliban are pashtuns. We have pashtuns here at our side. What is the practical approach here ? think for yourself. So members here are saying we go against Taliban, create a nightmare of security at our longest border and then bring even bigger evil in afghanistan ?? and move around a whole circle ? Is this your way out ?